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npa589 11-21-2013 07:13 PM

Help in ID'ing a Springfield Ponies* player, if possible?
 
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I just picked this up because I found it pretty cool and the face looked familiar to me, though I couldn't think of who it was.

Anyone know anything about this, or know who this is?

Looking forward to reading what "almighty Google" couldn't tell me, :D


Thanks in advance all...

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HRBAKER 11-21-2013 07:16 PM

Not him but resembles Cicotte to me.

GoldenAge50s 11-21-2013 09:50 PM

It's Joe Jackson!:rolleyes:

Wite3 11-21-2013 11:29 PM

Might want to start by identifying the uniform...looks more like a San Francisco Seals uniform than a White Sox uniform but I am no expert...maybe someone else could chime in.

Joshua

Acollector 11-21-2013 11:51 PM

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Originally Posted by GoldenAge50s (Post 1209209)
It's Joe Jackson!:rolleyes:

Joe Jackson had a manlier chin.

Dto7 11-22-2013 02:54 AM

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Does look like the 1909 Savannah uniforms

Acollector 11-22-2013 03:11 AM

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Originally Posted by Dto7 (Post 1209235)
Does look like the 1909 Savannah uniforms

They kind of do, but that dollar sign looking S looks more like something Thurston Howell III would have if he owned a baseball team.

Tao_Moko 11-22-2013 04:42 AM

I almost pulled the trigger on this but wasn't comfortable with the description or image. It was cheap enough for the risk but I couldn't identify the player. I was leaning towards it being a Seals PC too.

seablaster 11-22-2013 05:55 AM

I don't have a team name for your Nate, but the jerseys match.

http://i.ebayimg.com/t/c-1910-Real-P...Sfw4E/$_57.JPG

Jacklitsch 11-22-2013 06:02 AM

Seablaster:

That is the 1909 Springfield MA ponies team. Harl Maggert and Shano Collins are two players of note.

npa589 11-22-2013 08:16 AM

You all are awesome. The knowledge on here is staggering!

Just tried scouring baseball reference to look at the Springfield Ponies' players who have available pictures, but haven't had any success.

This player is about 5'11" - 6'1" tall...

npa589 11-22-2013 08:22 AM

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This picture has been uploaded before to net54, but wanted to put it in this thread. This is the 1905 Springfield Ponies team. Anyone think it resembles any of these players?

Dto7 11-22-2013 08:28 AM

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It's the 1908 Springfield Ponies

2dueces 11-22-2013 08:40 AM

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Originally Posted by seablaster (Post 1209248)
I don't have a team name for your Nate, but the jerseys match.

http://i.ebayimg.com/t/c-1910-Real-P...Sfw4E/$_57.JPG

That's him. Bottom row Second from the left.

Jacklitsch 11-22-2013 08:45 AM

Try this link for pics of Ponies' players:

http://s52.photobucket.com/user/jack...?sort=3&page=1y

smokelessjoe 11-22-2013 08:51 AM

Parker
 
My money is on player # 13 - Parker ....

Jacklitsch 11-22-2013 08:51 AM

I agree that it is probably Parker.

Interesting to note that the guide photo differs slightly from the postcard though obviously taken at the same time. View Powell (right behind the team owner in the suit) looking to his right in the PC and to his left in the guide pic.

VoodooChild 11-22-2013 08:55 AM

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He kind of looks like this guy (same chin I think) - Murray Parker played for the 1909 Springfield Ponies:

Runscott 11-22-2013 09:03 AM

Steve, that's a great little project you have going. Wish I had known about it when doing my own research.

Here's another one of Dan O'Neill's teams where I've i.d.'d some of the players.

Runscott 11-22-2013 09:05 AM

and another from about the same period - I haven't been able to nail down the exact year on this one. I think it might have been taken during the Spring, and has some players that got cut.

npa589 11-22-2013 03:59 PM

Agreed, it is definitely Murray Parker.

I see me traversing down this road of PCs now, looking for Cubs players before they donned the Cubs uniform. It's all just too intriguing. Thank you all very much, and I'm sure threads like this will help others when they search for info in the future.

Steve: really impressive work on that group of photos, thanks for the link.

bmarlowe1 11-22-2013 05:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Jacklitsch (Post 1209249)
Seablaster:
That is the 1909 Springfield MA ponies team. Harl Maggert and Shano Collins are two players of note.

Shano Collins is not in that photo. Bill Powell (back row 3rd from right) dates it to likely 1908. Maggert is middle row far left, Pop Rising is middle row 2nd from right. Our guy Parker is front row 2nd from left.

Jacklitsch 11-22-2013 06:33 PM

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Originally Posted by bmarlowe1 (Post 1209504)
Shano Collins is not in that photo. Bill Powell (back row 3rd from right) dates it to likely 1908. Maggert is middle row far left, Pop Rising is middle row 2nd from right. Our guy Parker is front row 2nd from left.

Correct. My bad. Collins was only there in 09 so the 08 date is most likely.

Runscott 11-22-2013 07:34 PM

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Originally Posted by bmarlowe1 (Post 1209504)
Shano Collins is not in that photo. Bill Powell (back row 3rd from right) dates it to likely 1908. Maggert is middle row far left, Pop Rising is middle row 2nd from right. Our guy Parker is front row 2nd from left.

How about middle row, far right? I think that's the guy in my first pic, middle row, 3rd from left.

bmarlowe1 11-22-2013 07:46 PM

My bad - I didn't notice that Don Stokes had already posted above a Spalding Guide version of the photo identifying it as 1908.

Scott - it could be.

Jacklitsch 11-22-2013 09:00 PM

BTW, the player identified in the Guide as Connors (11) middle row far right is Joseph Connor brother of Hall of Famer Roger Connor.


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