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So you have your all time team... Now
Now pick one starter, in his prime totally healthy to pitch one game against another members all time team that u must win. He will not be hitting just pitching. He dosnt have to pitch a compleat game figure at least 7 innings. Whos your ace???
I will probably take slot of flack for my pick but after alot of thought i would take pedro martinez at his best over any other pitcher. |
Give me Koufax.
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Walter Johnson.
If you want someone that I've actually seen, either Gibson or Koufax. |
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His last 4 seasons, he was 97-27 (.782) with a 1.86 ERA. In 1,192 2/3 IP he struck out 1,228 batters while walking only 259. He allowed a laughable 6.2 hits per 9 innings, and his whip was a ridiculous 0.909. Imagine what his career numbers would have been if he didn't have to retire at age 30. He was 28-9 with a 1.73 ERA and 317 Ks in 1966. His ERA + was 190, the best of his career. He did all this while in constant pain. For my money, Koufax achieved a level of pitching mastery that has never been equaled. Pedro Martinez, Greg Maddux and a handful of other modern pitchers, combined with Bob Gibson, Bob Feller, Christy Mathewson, Ed Walsh and Walter Johnson...are all on my short list. But Koufax could throw a no hitter any time he took the mound. There is one guy that is quickly moving up my list, and he's young. Clayton Kershaw is the best pitcher in the game now, and he's looking like an all-time great. The kid is just scary good. Compare him to Koufax. Kershaw's ERA + is 190 in 2013, and I think he has one more start. He's matched Koufax's best season, and he's only 25. |
Since it would be the first time the all-time greats would see him... and he'd be at his best...
I'll take Tim Lincecum. (Marichal, Carl Hubbell (you saw what he did in the all-star game to the greats) and Matty would be right up there! Non-Giants Division: Satchel Paige |
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no chance
Randy Johnson
No question...at the top of his game, no one could hit him! |
Best big game pitcher whom I saw was Gibson. But if someone also saw Hubbell and told me that he was better, I would believe it.
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This question is often asked on sports radio talk shows as, ""Who would you pitch to save the planet?"
Greg Maddux with Ron Kulpa behind the dish. |
To be the contrarian, I'm picking a good guy who was great in a lot of big games.
Allie Reynolds. |
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I'd still go with Koufax, but Timmy was absolutely amazing for those first 2 full seasons when he was still blowing 98 MPH gas. |
I might have to take Maddux or Pedro via a coin flip. For the simple reason that they dominated in The Steriod Era!!! Unreal what they did. Pedro was lights out in the complete epicenter, eye of the hurricane, heart of the most hitter dominated (by cheating) era of all time.
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Greg Maddux
No doubt in my mind. |
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Mr. Bob Gibson even if my life depended on it.
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On his best days, Ryan.
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Pedro
If he were unavailable Koufax
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I don't have to look very far, do I? I'll take Johnson, and no need for any seven-inning limitation. If he's the greatest of all time, he's OK for one game, too. One out of six starts were shutout wins. If we're going with pitchers in their prime, his lasted 10 years, 1910-1919, during which he won 35% of his team's games. Of those I actually saw, I'd be very happy with Sandy.
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at his absolute peak, I'd have to go with Maddux (actually a bit surprised I'm not the first, but the 5th person to mention him in this thread).
honorable mention goes to Verlander (at his peak). |
Top 5 in my opinion for a single game in their prime: Walter Johnson, Pedro Martinez, Lefty Grove, Randy Johnson, and Greg Maddux. All were lights out at the height of their powers.
Best single season ERA+ for each: 259 Walter (second best for a season was 240) 291 Pedro (second best for a season was 243) 217 Lefty (second best for a season was 189) 195 Randy (second best for a season was 193) 271 Greg (second best for a season was 260) ERA+ gets me down to Walter, Pedro, and Greg. Facing ATG lineups would be beyond brutal. You'd need to somehow be able to go deep into the game, and an increased strikeout rate would also help against ATG lineups to get out of trouble. A tough call between the three, but I'd go with Walter since he has a better chance at pitching deep into the game while also getting some strikeouts to get out of trouble. |
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I guess you also look how pitchers perform in big games... and I'm not saying that Maddux wasn't a stellar pitcher (one of the very best ever)... but I keep seeing Will Clark absolutely destroying him in Game 1of the '89 playoffs. That does color my thinking...
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Koufax or Gibson (flip a coin)
J.R. Richard would be my (Homer Pick) |
I've seen Koufax, Gibson and Maddox pitch. Take a look at their playoff/world Series body of work. Maddox to me is definitely a step below.
Koufax # 1, Gibson a close second. Never saw Paige, way too young to have seen anyone prior to 1958. But my grandfather, when he quit swearing, said Paige was crafty and unhittable the times he saw Satchel pitch..:):):D |
I'll take my chances with the 1968 version of Bob Gibson. Close seconds are '63 Koufax and '78 Guidry.
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1985 Doc Gooden please, thank you, and good luck!
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Here is my pitching rotation.
Walter Johnson Christy Matthewson Fergie Jenkins Bob Gibson Greg Maddux Carl Mays And the rest of the team Ty Cobb Babe Ruth Johnny Bench Ernie Banks Barry Bonds (with Roids) Mike Schmidt Pete Rose Albert Pujols Hank Aaron And my closer Mariano Rivera With Randy Johnson in my bullpen |
Greg Maddux, without a question!
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