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JollyElm 09-14-2013 01:38 PM

Lower Grade 1952 Topps Pafko Black Back to Trade
 
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Attachment 114177

I've had this guy since I paid a pretty penny for him sometime back in the mid 1990's. I honestly have no clue what CSA grading is, but it's in their holder.

If you're interested in Mr. Pafko, LMK what quality hits you have off of my need list and let's talk. I'll be happy to answer any questions.

Although I am not a graded card collector, I will say that this CSA grade of a 3 is very disingenuous. Besides the pair of creases/wrinkles that can be seen in the scan near the top corners, there are also a bunch of wrinkles that emanate from the top middle and snake down across his face and hit the border above the Dodgers logo. I imagine this card would most likely be around a 2 (or possibly lower?) if graded by a legitimate TPG, but I don't have any insight into their grading standards.

My Need List:

***1957*** (ex. or better, will consider vg if not too bad)
1 (Williams), 284 (Zimmer), 286 (Richardson), 328 (Robinson), 407 (Mantle/Berra) & All Checklists

***1958*** (ex.+) (Lower Priority)
1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12, 13, 15, 18, 19, 20, 22, 23, 25, 26, 29, 30, 31, 33, 35, 37, 42, 44, 46, 47, 48, 49, 52, 54, 56, 57, 59, 62, 63, 64, 67, 68, 70, 74, 75, 76, 78, 79, 80, 81, 84, 85, 87, 88, 90, 91, 93, 95, 97, 100, 101, 102, 105, 107, 108, 111, 112, 114, 123, 125, 131, 132, 135, 138, 140, 141, 142, 148, 149, 150, 159, 161, 162, 164, 165, 168, 171, 172, 173, 174, 175, 177, 178, 179, 180, 181, 183, 185, 187, 190, 193, 194, 196, 197, 199, 203, 207, 208, 210, 211, 215, 216, 217, 218, 219, 220, 221, 222, 223, 227, 231, 232, 234, 238, 240, 241, 242, 244, 245, 246, 248, 250, 253, 254, 255, 256, 258, 260, 262, 263, 264, 267, 269, 271, 275, 276, 277, 278, 280, 281, 282, 285, 286, 288, 291, 293, 295, 296, 298, 299, 300, 301, 302, 304, 305, 307, 309, 310, 311, 312, 313, 314, 315, 316, 317, 318, 320, 321, 324, 325, 326, 327, 328, 329, 330, 331, 332, 333, 334, 336, 337, 340, 342, 343, 346, 348, 349, 350, 351, 353, 355, 358, 359, 361, 362, 363, 364, 365, 366, 368, 370, 371, 373, 375, 376, 378, 380, 382, 383, 387, 389, 392, 396, 398, 400, 402, 407, 413, 417, 418, 420, 422, 423, 424, 425, 426, 428, 429, 430, 431, 434, 436, 438, 440, 441, 443, 444, 446, 448, 452, 453, 455, 458, 461, 462, 464, 465, 468, 470, 472, 474, 475, 479, 480, 481, 484, 485, 486, 490, 493, 494, 495

***1959*** (ex. mt.)
1 (Frick), 12 (Law), 26 (Stobbs), 34 (Pitchers Beware), 41 (Martyn), 49 (Hall), 54 (Roach), 59 (Noren), 61 (Brown), 65 (Torre), 69 (Giants), 72 (Renna), 74 (Directing the Power), 76 (Richardson), 80 (Minoso), 89 (Gardner), 90 (Skowron), 107 (Larker), 118 (Buzhardt), 133 (Lillis), 141 (Shipley), 148 (McCormick), 160 (Groat), 181 (Porterfield), 182 (Graff), 183 (Miller), 185 (Busby), 186 (Grant), 195 (Repulski), 221 (Bowman), 229 (Power), 236 (Bowsfield), 250 (O'Dell), 251 (Boyer), 264 (Carrasquel), 273 (Jay), 278 (Essegian), 286 (Stone), 300 (Ashburn), 339 (Face), 343 (Hoeft), 345 (McDougald), 395 (Howard), 397 (Senators), 433 (Harrell), 436 (Hamner), 514 (Gibson), 550 (Campanella), 554 (Skowron), 569 (Friend), 570 (Turley)

plus these variations:
40 (Spahn-Born 1931)
40 (Spahn-Born 1931, 3 partially obscured)
321 (Giallombardo-No optioned statement)
322 (Hanebrink-No trade statement)
336 (Loes-No trade statement)
362 (Nichols-No optioned statement)

***1961*** (ex. mt.)
2 (Maris), 49 (NL Strikeout Leaders), 160 (Ford), 265 (Kubek), 287 (Yastrzemski), 344 (Koufax), 400 (Law), 415 (Aaron), 417 (Marichal), 425 (Berra), 430 (Mazeroski), 449 (Bolin), 461 (Burgess), 464 (Thomas), 465 (McMillan), 472 (Berra MVP), 484 (Aaron MVP), 489 (Dropo), 528 (Ramos), 531 (Coates), 544 (Thomas), 549 (Smith), 577 (Aaron AS), 578 (Mantle AS), 579 (Mays AS), 580 (Kaline AS), 586 (Ford AS)

***1962*** (ex. mt.)
180 (Allison), 392 (Boyer), 423 (Rival Relief Aces), 427 (Wood), 445 (Power), 455 (Arroyo), 459 (Bailey), 464 (Jackson), 465 (Reds), 570 (Stafford), 591 (McDowell)

***1963*** (ex. mt. - sharp corners)
4 (AL HR Leaders), 7 (NL Pitching Leaders), 78 (Throneberry), 80 (Gilliam), 92 (Lopez), 111 (Jackson), 127 (Tuttle), 157 (Segui), 158 (Rookies), 162 (Twins), 202 (Red Sox), 226 (Javier), 233 (Stengel), 246 (Strange), 268 (Demeter), 270 (Alou), 275 (Mathews), 300 (Mays), 302 (Herzog), 320 (Spahn), 323 (Mazeroski), 336 (Bauta), 341 (Baldschun), 345 (Robinson), 353 (Williams), 360 (Drysdale), 374 (Osteen), 377 (Orioles), 384 (Tillman), 389 (Sullivan), 402 (Vernon), 417 (Giants), 446 (Ford), 449 (Tartabull), 466 (Rookies), 471 (Retzer-white silhouette in inset circle), 475 (Triandos), 485 (Landis), 487 (Roseboro), 496 (Rookies), 503 (Braves), 508 (Savage), 517 (Woodeshick), 530 (Mossi), 533 (Shantz), 537 (Rookies)

***1965*** (ex. mt. - sharp corners)
1 (AL Batting Ldrs), 4 (NL HR Ldrs), 7 (AL ERA Ldrs), 17 (Romano), 19 (Brown), 38 (King), 50 (Marichal), 62 (Kaat), 119 (Kennedy), 121 (Alley), 131 (Keane), 132 (WS Game 1), 138 (WS Game 7), 150 (Robinson), 155 (Maris), 170 (Aaron), 177 (Mikkelsen), 187 (Stengel), 212 (Brand), 248 (Triandos), 250 (Mays), 251 (Herman), 298 (Stewart), 299 (Zimmerman), 315 (Malzone), 325 (Clendenon), 326 (Siebler), 330 (Ford), 332 (Abernathy), 334 (Roznovsky), 335 (Lolich), 342 (Rodgers), 380 (Colavito), 389 (Larsen), 404 (Williams), 415 (Flood), 426 (Braves), 433 (Bateman), 475 (Boyer), 477 (Carlton), 480 (Horlen), 506 (Mele), 510 (Banks), 511 (Locke), 512 (Peterson), 543 (Connolly), 555 (Baldschun), 572 (Orioles), 573 (Red Sox Rookies), 578 (Carreon), 588 (Green), 592 (Bork)

***1966*** (ex. mt.)
2 (Abernathy), 7 (Stallard), 9 (Boyer), 19 (Giants Team), 40 (Grant), 43 (Landrum-Button on Pants Partially Airbrushed), 53 (Duliba), 56 (Valdespino), 89 (Davidson), 104 (Johnson), 110 (Banks), 120 (Killebrew), 125 (Brock), 126 (Palmer), 130 (Torre), 132 (Cepeda), 150 (Colavito), 154 (Hiller), 155 (Lopez), 156 (DP Combo), 160 (Ford), 174 (Taylor), 202 (Dalrymple), 209 (Tigers Rookies), 217 (NL HR Ldrs.), 255 (Stargell), 264 (Twins Rookies), 273 (Astro Aces), 275 (McCarver), 276 (Bouton), 297 (Owens), 300 (Clemente), 384 (Downing), 387 (Reed), 400 (Versalles), 435 (Bunning), 442 (Orioles Rookies), 449 (Moeller), 451 (Latman), 456 (Red Sox Rookies), 460 (Blefary), 469 (Yankee Rookies), 488 (Banks), 492 (A's Team), 500 (Aaron), 523 (Sadowski), 529 (White Sox Rookies), 532 (Monteagudo), 534 (Mets Rookies), 539 (Astros Rookies), 542 (Smith), 543 (Craig), 545 (Green), 546 (Siebler), 548 (Kroll), 549 (Senators Rookies), 555 (Perranoski), 558 (Red Sox Rookies), 565 (Piersall), 568 (A's Rookies), 573 (Griffith), 576 (Nicholson), 583 (Tigers Team)

***1967*** (ex. mt. - sharp corners)
30 (Kaline), 43 (Salmon), 45 (Maris), 129 (Roof), 130 (Regan), 131 (Yankees), 154 (WS), 193 (Cardinal), 202 (Edwards), 205 (Groat), 216 (Bengal Belters), 275 (Whitfield), 296 (Beckert), 302 (Orioles), 460 (Killebrew), 466 (Wine), 476 (Perez), 485 (McCarver), 492 (Pirates), 495 (Peterson), 516 (Giants), 521 (Bird Bombers), 535 (Clendenon), 538 (Martin), 545 (Grant), 553 (Yankee Rookies), 563 (Adcock), 564 (Astros Rookies), 567 (Hamilton), 569 (AL Rookies), 570 (Wills), 575 (Boswell), 577 (Short), 578 (Boccabella), 579 (Henry), 580 (Colavito), 581 (Seaver), 584 (Piersall), 585 (Bunker), 590 (Richert), 595 (Rojas), 596 (Cisco), 602 (Pizarro), 603 (Athletics Rookies), 604 (Red Sox Team), 609 (John)

***1968*** (nr. mt.)
these variations: 49 (Brinkman-Yellow Team Name), 66 (Cox-Yellow Team Name), 400 (McCormick-White Team Name)

***1969*** (upgrade, so looking for nr. mt.)
20 (Banks), 48 (Alyea), 54 (Carlos), 70 (Helms), 120 (Rose), 128 (T. Aaron), 190 (Mays), 215 (Petrocelli), 221 (Shamsky), 241 (Brewer), 268 (Spangler), 270 (Lolich), 292 (Downing), 326 (Sutherland), 338 (Unser), 357 (Taylor), 375 (Killebrew), 381 (Kranepool), 423 (Campaneris A.S.), 456 (Harrelson), 472 (Price), 480 (Seaver), 495 (Campaneris), 517 (McCormick), 551 (Granger), 589 (Pepitone), 595 (Maye), 598 (Amaro), 601 (McGraw), 620 (Chance), 624 (Rookie Stars), 630 (Bonds), 637 (Padres Rookies), 643 (Cowan), 653 (Rodriguez), 655 (Hershberger), 660 (Smith), 663 (Radatz)

plus these ‘white letter’ variations: 440 (McCovey), 441 (Higgins), 447 (Houk), 452 (Ferrara), 454 (Phillies Rookies), 464 (Marshall), 468 (Pirates Rookies), 470 (Stottlemyre), 471 (Savage), 473 (Arcia), 476 (Red Sox Rookies), 482 (Gosger), 485 (Perry), 491 (Twins Rookies), 500 (Mantle), 511 (Segui)

***1970*** (upgrade, so looking for nr. mt.)
127 (Coleman), 138 (Foy), 148 (Weaver), 180 (John), 193 (Wegener), 209 (Suarez), 252 (Palmer), 338 (Schaal), 346 (Schoendienst), 382 (DiLauro), 437 (Cater), 441 (O'Donoghue), 629 (Rettenmund), 717 (Phoebus)

***1971*** (upgrade, so looking for nr. mt.)
5 (Munson), 20 (Jackson), 30 (Niekro), 50 (McCovey), 55 (Carlton), 61 (AL Batting Ldrs.), 72 (NL Strikeout Ldrs.), 120 (Horton), 133 (Lolich), 137 (Lopez), 142 (Jones), 158 (Reuss), 164 (Reds Rookies), 177 (McRae), 180 (Kaline), 199 (NL Payoffs Game 1), 200 (NL Payoffs Game 2), 223 (Upshaw), 245 (Kaat), 248 (Wilhelm), 258 (Green), 270 (Carty), 277 (Waslewski), 278 (Grote), 280 (Jenkins), 283 (Such), 327 (WS Game 1), 329 (WS Game 3), 330 (WS Game 4), 331 (WS Game 5), 335 (Koosman), 341 (Garvey), 374 (Boyer), 378 (Fuentes), 380 (Williams), 395 (White), 400 (Aaron), 412 (Johnson), 425 (Rader), 439 (Phillies Rookies), 478 (Carbo), 496 (Woodward), 505 (Brown), 520 (John), 529 (NL Rookies), 530 (Yastrzemski), 537 (Egan), 538 (Bravo), 550 (Killebrew), 552 (Bradford), 554 (Palmer), 561 (O’Brien), 574 (Bunning), 576 (Cubs Rookies), 581 (Nelson), 582 (Cash), 585 (Davis), 589 (Barton), 590 (Johnson), 603 (Pirates), 637 (Bristol), 640 (Robinson), 662 (Hedlund), 673 (Janeski), 676 (Reynolds), 686 (Ruiz), 687 (Taylor), 700 (Powell), 703 (Kekich), 706 (Foy), 711 (Stahl), 724 (Tischinski)

If you have nothing off of my need list, I am also very interested in these:
• 1972 Topps FB high numbers (need these in exmt shape: 271 Warfield AP, 277 Eller AP, 280 Lilly AP, 304 Dale, 308 Morrall, 312 Marsalis, 336 Marshall, 341 Butkus)
• 1972 Topps BB (upgrading my 2 sets and looking for nr. mt. centered 'in-action' cards, a few stars and a bunch of others)
• 1963 Fleer BB (need about 25 more in exmt or better shape and have many to trade)
• 1964 Topps (just started upgrading this set, so could use many of the stars in exmt or better shape)
• 1964 Topps Stand-Ups (need virtually any in nice shape)
• 1954 Bowman BB (looking for a starter set in ex+ shape)
• I'm always interested in HOF'ers and high numbers in nice shape from the 50's and 60's.
• Plus, I'm forever looking to upgrade many other cards from my 1957-1972 sets, so if you have sharp cornered cards in nice shape, I may be able to use some of them.


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