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bcbgcbrcb 09-13-2013 04:38 AM

More Negro League Fake Photos on E-Bay
 
Here are the latest fakes listed by this seller on e-bay. Seems to be more every month or so, don't know how this seller has not been kicked off of e-bay yet.........


http://www.ebay.com/itm/Vintage-phot...item51b1bbbf2c

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Vintage-phot...item51b1bbdeed

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Vintage-phot...item51b1bbdeed

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Vintage-phot...item51b1bbf95c

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Vintage-phot...item51b1822f78

buymycards 09-13-2013 05:03 AM

fakes
 
Hi Phil,
I'm not a photo guy. Would you please tell me the signs that made you think these are fakes? It may help me avoid purchasing fakes in the future.

Thanks, Rick

bcbgcbrcb 09-13-2013 06:18 AM

Hey, Rick:

The clarity of these photos is not there to be originals. The telltale sign for most all of the fake Negro League photos though is the spider veins that you can see running through different parts of the photo.

Forever Young 09-13-2013 07:56 AM

Well... here is another fake photo that has been up on ebay for awhile too. Unfortunately, it is slabbed by Beckett.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/1919-Babe-Ru...item19d182b593

DESCRIPTION:

"SINCE THIS ITEM HAS BEEN AUTHENTICATED BY BECKETT THERE WILL BE NO RETURNS ON THIS ONE"


Surprise...surprise....

Leon 09-13-2013 05:24 PM

Thanks for the heads up guys!!

Ladder7 09-14-2013 10:46 AM

The Ruth flip says "Underwood News Serv." But not on the photo, that I can find.

EvilKing00 09-14-2013 11:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bcbgcbrcb (Post 1184186)
Hey, Rick:

The clarity of these photos is not there to be originals. The telltale sign for most all of the fake Negro League photos though is the spider veins that you can see running through different parts of the photo.

interesting about the spider veins, why does that occur on the fakes?

Forever Young 09-14-2013 11:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ladder7 (Post 1184666)
The Ruth flip says "Underwood News Serv." But not on the photo, that I can find.

The Ruth is a forgery. It was stabbed by Beckett that way probably because they were told a story or saw it in some archives labelled as such. They should not be suthenticating photos. The date stamps are fake. My guess is, the seller knows it will not pass Psa DNA as a type 1. thus, hides behind the Beckett slab and doesn't guarantee what he/she is selling. I have seen this listed by multiple eBay Ids trying to dump it. It is a fake/forgery/junk.

steve B 09-14-2013 03:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ladder7 (Post 1184666)
The Ruth flip says "Underwood News Serv." But not on the photo, that I can find.

Lower left corner

copyright by
underwood & underwood N.Y.
? service co N.Y. distributors.


Just the standard thing they added while printing the originals and it will be part of any uncropped fake too.

To me the big tip off is the sepia tone. I don't think they were supplied to the press that way. And the distributors usually had a more readable "property of " or "copyright by" on the back.

It wouldn't be a bad photo to frame at say $10.

Steve B

Forever Young 09-14-2013 04:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by steve B (Post 1184784)
Lower left corner

copyright by
underwood & underwood N.Y.
? service co N.Y. distributors.


Just the standard thing they added while printing the originals and it will be part of any uncropped fake too.

To me the big tip off is the sepia tone. I don't think they were supplied to the press that way. And the distributors usually had a more readable "property of " or "copyright by" on the back.

It wouldn't be a bad photo to frame at say $10.

Steve B

Good catch... The clarity of this is so horrendous, you can barely make it out.


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