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KuznKevin 08-02-2013 07:28 PM

National Promo verse Black Swamp debacle
 
"NSCC Promo Babe Ruth card at the national: The card that never was"

Looks/feels/smells like the 'great black swamp find' cards. Is that promo simply mocking the people who were suckered in to thinking the black swamp find cards weren't printed 2 years ago ?

kevin

Cardboard Junkie 08-02-2013 07:31 PM

yes?

the 'stache 08-02-2013 07:36 PM

The Black Swamp Find cards were printed two years ago? Huh?

Cardboard Junkie 08-02-2013 07:42 PM

Is this a trick question?

KuznKevin 08-02-2013 07:47 PM

no trick question. black swamp cards were probably printed at the same time of that national babe ruth promo card.

ScottFandango 08-02-2013 07:48 PM

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Originally Posted by KuznKevin (Post 1165880)
no trick question. black swamp cards were probably printed at the same time of that national babe ruth promo card.

Why do yo think this? Because they look 2 years old?

whitehse 08-02-2013 08:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KuznKevin (Post 1165880)
no trick question. black swamp cards were probably printed at the same time of that national babe ruth promo card.


Oh Geez.....

KuznKevin 08-02-2013 08:07 PM

yes, barry halper collection anyone ? BSF equals mastery at ripoff.

Cardboard Junkie 08-02-2013 08:10 PM

May as well talk "blue old mill" too.

KuznKevin 08-02-2013 08:27 PM

Understood on the concerns and I mean nothing here personally to anyone. (legal requirement) But being an investigator on this hobby for the past 2 years, the opinion is you guys are being fooled more than often, yet still enjoy it.

All packs can be resealed. All boxes can be rebuilt. And the kicker is, there are NO cards that can not be reprinted using the same cardboard and ink the originals came from. All it takes is the right equipment.

Autograph's ...don't even get me started. 5 out of 5 auto;s not gotten in person ar fake.

Hard to take, and probably not human enough to acceot the facts correct ?

bobbyw8469 08-02-2013 08:49 PM

Kevin, I understand the need to talk s**t, but you really need to have your name listed if you are going to do so. Just sayin.....

bbeck 08-02-2013 08:49 PM

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Originally Posted by KuznKevin (Post 1165906)
Understood on the concerns and I mean nothing here personally to anyone. (legal requirement) But being an investigator on this hobby for the past 2 years, the opinion is you guys are being fooled more than often, yet still enjoy it.

All packs can be resealed. All boxes can be rebuilt. And the kicker is, there are NO cards that can not be reprinted using the same cardboard and ink the originals came from. All it takes is the right equipment.

Autograph's ...don't even get me started. 5 out of 5 auto;s not gotten in person ar fake.

Hard to take, and probably not human enough to acceot the facts correct ?

Wait! Does this mean that Elvis is still alive and a dealer at the national?

Cardboard Junkie 08-02-2013 08:55 PM

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Elvis lives!!!!!:)

HOF Auto Rookies 08-02-2013 08:55 PM

Great, guess it's time to sell my signed Marquard T206, errrr ummm my signed 2011 Topps 206 Marquard

JollyElm 08-02-2013 09:01 PM

Elvis is sporting quite a camel toe.

the 'stache 08-02-2013 09:05 PM

You need to post your full name in this thread, Kevin. ASAP.

HOF Auto Rookies 08-02-2013 09:06 PM

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Originally Posted by JollyElm (Post 1165924)
Elvis is sporting quite a camel toe.

I don't get it... ;)

the 'stache 08-02-2013 09:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KuznKevin (Post 1165906)
And the kicker is, there are NO cards that can not be reprinted using the same cardboard and ink the originals came from. All it takes is the right equipment.

And under magnification, any collector that knows what they are doing can spot a T206 that was printed two months ago.

jcmtiger 08-02-2013 10:06 PM

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Originally Posted by KuznKevin (Post 1165880)
no trick question. black swamp cards were probably printed at the same time of that national babe ruth promo card.

Where is the data on this information?

Joe

drmondobueno 08-02-2013 10:20 PM

Hey Kevin. Tell us more about your investigations the last few years. If you think it is possible to reprint cards, such as the BSF, tell us facts that show why you think these cards are 'probably' reprints. Give us examples of reprints found to be counterfeit that were graded by a grading company that were subsequently found to be phonies, and I am not talking about Jeter rookies, but prewar cards.

Tell us why you examined your suspicion and how you investigated to find a probability of fraud. This ain't the place for supposition and sneering at 'suckers'. Back your words up. Oh yeah, post your name, Kevin.

Keith Temple

camlov2 08-02-2013 10:38 PM

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Originally Posted by KuznKevin (Post 1165906)

Autograph's ...don't even get me started. 5 out of 5 auto;s not gotten in person ar fake.

Wow, 5 out of 5, what happens when someone sells a real autograph? Spontaneous combustion?

Or maybe your opinions are as accurate as your typing?

sbfinley 08-02-2013 10:39 PM

I like where this is going.

Seattle799 08-02-2013 10:54 PM

As long as everyone's at the net54 dinner (and drinks), this forum is the wild wild west!

Inmates running the asylum! :D

the 'stache 08-02-2013 10:54 PM

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Originally Posted by camlov2 (Post 1165965)
Wow, 5 out of 5, what happens when someone sells a real autograph? Spontaneous combustion?

Or maybe your opinions are as accurate as your typing?

He's wrong about this, and other things, too, I'd wager.

Every single autograph I've purchased in the last two years have all been certified by Topps. The Bowman Chrome prospect autos I buy are all stamped certified, and they have pictures of the athletes signing the cards.

Cardboard Junkie 08-02-2013 10:59 PM

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Hey KuznKevin,

UOFLfan7 08-02-2013 11:09 PM

This thread...I have no words...good lord.

RCMcKenzie 08-02-2013 11:19 PM

e98s
 
I read that the guy found the cards in a box under a dollhouse in his grandpa's attic. The borders are very bright white looking. I've only seen the scans and don't really have an opinion either way. It's sort of how I felt when they told me that Pluto is just an asteroid.

Cardboard Junkie 08-02-2013 11:34 PM

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Can't have a thread without some cards. So...now for the "real" donnybrook. Which card do you like?

ibuysportsephemera 08-02-2013 11:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Seattle799 (Post 1165967)
As long as everyone's at the net54 dinner (and drinks), this forum is the wild wild west!

Inmates running the asylum! :D

Very funny, I was thinking the same thing!

sago 08-03-2013 12:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KuznKevin (Post 1165906)
Understood on the concerns and I mean nothing here personally to anyone. (legal requirement) But being an investigator on this hobby for the past 2 years, the opinion is you guys are being fooled more than often, yet still enjoy it.

All packs can be resealed. All boxes can be rebuilt. And the kicker is, there are NO cards that can not be reprinted using the same cardboard and ink the originals came from. All it takes is the right equipment.

Autograph's ...don't even get me started. 5 out of 5 auto;s not gotten in person ar fake.

Hard to take, and probably not human enough to acceot the facts correct ?

Hi Peter Nash. Welcome to the board.

Leon 08-03-2013 12:13 AM

kuznkevin is now kuzn-gone.....

barrysloate 08-03-2013 04:08 AM

Obvious troll.

MikeGarcia 08-03-2013 04:57 AM

Gone ? Curses !
 
I've just made a big bowl of popcorn for nothin' .

deadballfreaK 08-03-2013 06:07 AM

Yes, I think you jumped the gun, Leon. I was looking forward to learning all about the hobby from that razor sharp investigator. I believe he actually crawled out of the Black Swamp.

Tao_Moko 08-03-2013 06:42 AM

What I read was:

"Youins wants to be thankin thems real cardz! Well you bees beein rong?"

CaramelMan 08-03-2013 08:03 AM

isn't there a well known kevin guy who is an expert at fakes....:eek:

e107collector 08-03-2013 10:45 AM

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Originally Posted by Cardboard Junkie (Post 1165969)
Hey KuznKevin,



David,

That was great!!

Both PSA and SGC slabbed counterfeit Black Swamp find cards just for the 2012 National promotion??? What a moron!!!

Tony

hoshua4710 08-03-2013 01:48 PM

Speaking of KuznKevin, I think the great Squints Palledorous says it best...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature...&v=svvO-X2VGbY

CW 08-03-2013 03:21 PM

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Originally Posted by barrysloate (Post 1166000)
Obvious troll.

http://farm5.staticflickr.com/4083/5...d1d1be72_z.jpg


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