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Fake T206 ghosts... Scammer id "aaron" on our board
A few days ago a new T206 ghost was posted on the main forum that caught me as suspicious (new boardmember, different player f/b, name on back, ghost was not limited to one "detail" layer). I let the usual buyers know I was interested in the card and if they would hold off for a bit..to which all did (thanks guys!).
Thread After a few days the owner sent me additional scans of a "more expensive" card and that he had several errors and ghost available. This is where he got greedy. A Cobb ghost :eek: He didn't invert the image, used a top tier HOF, a super print on a 150 series back….and was dumb enough to use a card he just bought on eBay - 6***d(13). Be really careful when buying these oddballs.....especially overprint & ghosts....the hammer prices are high enough that this likely won't be the last fake. :( eBay auction http://i.imgur.com/OpgnkwV.jpg http://i.imgur.com/YNt0RlO.jpg |
Chris and I have been in discussions this morning. This person, member id Aaron, is most likely a scammer. He registered with three different names which I questioned. He answered with something and I approved him. However, he also doesn't have a good working number and will be banned for that alone. What's sort of funny is with his last post, in the very long scammer thread where we exposed "Sportscollector" as a scammer, he asked how to contact him. I wouldn't doubt if he was asking how to contact himself :). "Aaron" will be banned shortly. Anyone doing a deal with him should rethink it.
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crazy...so if he inverted the image...and wasn't dumb enough to use a card he just bought off ebay...and didn't put a super print 150 on the back...how would a fake like this be detected?
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This guy is an artist ;). That thing could have brought in many K's... The image on the Gilbert ghost has incredible detail under magnification. I suspect this red cobb doesn't have the quality. Also, the ink is likely a new formula that may be detectable by a N54 sleuth.
Nice work Chris and a jolly good effort there to the loser aaron. |
His first one was decent, flipped, right size and aligned properly. I think it fooled several people based on the blurry pictures. I would have liked to seen it in hand but I am sure it looks recently printed vs litho and would be caught by a TPG.
These will get better, lI'd advise to have them graded and looked at by those on here who collect them. |
From my long conversations, recently, with one our scammers I can safely say that our board sticking together and sharing this kind of info is their biggest deterrent. They usually prey on the uneducated and greedy. If someone offers you a Cobb WST or ghost, for $400, and it looks great....you should be concerned. These fakes are going to start hitting Craigslist and ebay soon...as well as other auction sites. I almost guarantee it. This board won't be immune but it will be much more difficult here, so the scammers will take the paths of least resistance and mostly go elsewhere.
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Thanks for posting Chris! Wondering of you guys can direct me to a post that would speak to this or help me with one question. Is the fact that the card is a 150 subject "super print" a giveaway because the Cobb was not printed in this series and thus could not have ghosted the card? Sorry if this question is obvious, I am definately a T206 Newb.
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Check out www.t206resource.com/Print%20Group%205.html |
Awesome, thanks Chris. I'll spend some time on T206 resource on this issue!
Much appreciated. |
Ghostbusters!!!
Great job Chris!! I guess he didn't realize who he was messing with :D
It was just a matter of time before the scammers would attempt to duplicate ghosts. Thanks for outing this. Sincerely, Clayton |
Thank you Chris! I really want to add a ghost to my collection so thank you so much for the information.
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There was another thread a bit ago where I showed how easy it would be to make a ghost or WST. I put the ghost of cobb on a regular white paper and then I did the test on a random 80s card.
I think the only thing that would give it away is possibly a black light (I didn't check that because I don't have one). Link to the Thread http://www.net54baseball.com/showthread.php?t=157535 My post in that thread: Quote:
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I was waiting for this bullcrap to eventually occur....
Chris
Thanks for the super sleuth!! I missed the thread and this guy cause I have been so busy... GHOST BUSTER BROWNE:D All ghosts must pass the scrutiny of a error / scrap/ ghost Team here... I 'm so sorry I was late to dinner on this one... :) |
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