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nolemmings 01-23-2013 11:49 PM

Full bordered m101-6s
 
M101-6 Mendelsohns are fairly scarce--ask anyone who collects them. I have been lucky to have seen more than a hundred or two over the years, and have not seen them with anything more than a slight stripe of a border on one edge or end, and very rarely one that has both a side and end stripe. Now on ebay is an m101-6 with three large borders and a fourth smaller, and the seller has sold two similar in the past couple days. Has anyone else seen these cards with borders?

I have no qualms with the seller, who is a board member and who shared with me that these measure more than 1/4" larger in each direction than the m101-6s I own, which would appear to account for the borders. Still, I'm wondering if others here have these bordered m101-6s in their collections.

Here are the Wingo on Ebay next to mine and the Rice that sold next to mine. I also include my Hooper, which although showing two thin striped borders, bears little resemblance to these others.

[IMG]http://photos.imageevent.com/imoverh...arge/26241.jpg[/IMG][IMG]http://photos.imageevent.com/imoverh...m1016Wingo.jpg[/IMG]
[IMG]http://photos.imageevent.com/imoverh...arge/23627.jpg[/IMG]http://photos.imageevent.com/imoverh...9m1016rice.jpg[/IMG]
[IMG]http://photos.imageevent.com/imoverh...1016hooper.jpg[/IMG]

Jaybird 01-24-2013 12:20 AM

Hmmm. Interesting. I can't tell if it's the image quality but I don't like the noise in the text of the Full Bordered versions. To me, seeing patterns there or any noise makes me think dupe. But again, I might just be seeing artifacting caused by the quality of the image presented above.

That being said, the images look pretty good. So maybe this is just another printing? I don't know this issue well, so take my comments with a grain of salt.

Leon 01-24-2013 06:42 AM

Interesting Todd. It's almost like there were 2 different printings, one with and one without borders. My only example has no borders...

http://luckeycards.com/pm1016schalk.jpg

the-illini 01-24-2013 08:11 AM

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Nice catch Todd - I have one that has the full borders you have shown, and a couple others that have the thin border.

Here is a scan of my full-bordered example - I remember thinking something was different about it when I got it, but I never really paid that much attention to it.

nolemmings 01-24-2013 09:55 AM

It does seem as if there was a second printing. Chris, can you tell me whether the stock on your Donie Bush is the same as the other m101-6s? Both yours and the Rice have small chips out of them--I've seen m101-6s creased and otherwise damaged before, but don't recall seeing these small edge tears. Just wondering if the stock is somehow less sturdy and/or more paperlike.

the-illini 01-24-2013 10:10 AM

I will Check when I get home Todd - I don't remember it being markedly different than other M101-6's I own, but I also wasn't really comparing the two.

Jlighter 01-24-2013 07:34 PM

Hmm, didn't even know these could come with borders.

This is my only one.

http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8324/8...fabd96be_z.jpg

benchod 01-24-2013 07:40 PM

Nice observation, Todd
None of mine have borders
I thought Rhys' looked odd but couldn't place my finger on it

http://photos.imageevent.com/ltsgall...6%20Sisler.jpg

prewarsports 01-24-2013 08:04 PM

FWIW

These are 100% authentic and original, absolutely no doubt about that. I have owned probably 30 of the borderless M101-6 before and these are the same stock and quality although admittedly the only ones I have ever owned with borders. You can tell in half a second when holding these that they are the real deal.

Rhys

the-illini 01-25-2013 08:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by prewarsports (Post 1078001)
FWIW

These are 100% authentic and original, absolutely no doubt about that. I have owned probably 30 of the borderless M101-6 before and these are the same stock and quality although admittedly the only ones I have ever owned with borders. You can tell in half a second when holding these that they are the real deal.

Rhys

Agree with Rhys - these are definitely the real deal. I checked mine last night and there is no appreciable difference in the thickness or card stock that I could notice.

Brian Van Horn 01-25-2013 08:08 AM

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Rhys,

No doubt they are real. On the other variant, here is one I currently have in my collection and one I had previously. Another one I had previously has already been posted:

Jlighter 01-25-2013 08:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Brian Van Horn (Post 1078166)
Another one I had previously has already been posted:

Wonder which one that is.:)

nolemmings 01-25-2013 10:49 AM

Chris, since you have an example of each close at hand could you confirm that your Donie Bush is noticeably larger than your other m101-6s, in both directions?
Thanks.

Bicem 01-25-2013 01:05 PM

great thread, also curious to hear if there is a size difference.

the-illini 01-25-2013 01:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nolemmings (Post 1078246)
Chris, since you have an example of each close at hand could you confirm that your Donie Bush is noticeably larger than your other m101-6s, in both directions?
Thanks.

Yep Todd I will check tonight!

e107collector 10-20-2013 07:58 PM

M101-6
 
Does anyone know if a M101-6 Felix Mendelsohn Honus Wagner card exists? If so, what image does the card contain?

Thanks,
Tony

WillowGrove 10-20-2013 08:05 PM

Tony, now that we know there is a joe Jackson, your question is now the big mystery about this set.

e107collector 10-20-2013 08:19 PM

Wagner
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by WillowGrove (Post 1197405)
Tony, now that we know there is a joe Jackson, your question is now the big mystery about this set.

Peter,

That's part of the reason why I posed the question. Seems odd that he would've been omitted from the set. He was one of the big name HOFer's at that time. I guess time will tell.

Tony

the-illini 10-21-2013 10:37 AM

Honus Wagner is the big question mark now, as Peter alluded to, but the checklist is all over the place on this set. I have seen 99 listed as a number, all the way up to 123 on the high end. I don't know if there has even been a confirmation of 99 different subjects yet, so who knows.

One thing is for certain - there is a lot left to learn about this set...


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