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T206DK 01-07-2013 06:46 AM

New Ebay seller trick ?
 
Ok, last night I was following some vintage card auctions on ebay that I had placed bids on. I always check the bid history of every auction before and during the so I can try to detect shilling or any funny business. Last night , about 2 hours before the auctions were to end,ALL the auctions from one particular seller changed from being viewable to suddenly being private so noone could check the bid history. I didn't know sellers could change auction styles on the fly like that with such little time remaining in their auctions. This seller had a good rep with me as a vintage seller until last night. I suspect I will be seeing some of those cards that I lost last night up for sale again in 15-20 days.
Called Ebay customer service and a nice 19 year old girl made me laugh at her instead of giving me and explanation as to how this could happen

frankbmd 01-07-2013 07:13 AM

What was her name?

markf31 01-07-2013 07:39 AM

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Originally Posted by T206DK (Post 1070391)
This seller had a good rep with me as a vintage seller until last night.

Yes you can change the auction setting to private at any time.

Perhaps he had a very valid reason for making the change. You said yourself the seller had a good rep with you prior to this. Maybe a simple message to the seller expressing your concern over his change in auction policy towards the end of the listing and inquiring why they did make the change would put your worries and concerns to rest?

My father runs a model train business with most of his sales occurring on Ebay, moving anywhere from 100-200 items per week. I asked him his thoughts on this issue and his reply to me was that there were times he changed his auctions mid listing as well. He said he most often does it when he’s notified by an auction bidder who had been contacted by a 3rd party, offering for sale the exact same item my father has for auction. This is of course against Ebay policy so my father (along with the valid bidder) reports the 3rd party to Ebay and promptly switches the auction to private to protect all current and future bidders on his auction from being contacted in a similar fashion.

There are reasons for making this change mid-auction, and not all of them nefarious in nature.

Texxxx 01-07-2013 01:08 PM

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Originally Posted by frankbmd (Post 1070395)
What was her name?

So, When the cats away the mice will play.

ScottFandango 01-07-2013 02:10 PM

who was the ebay seller who did this?

Docsports 01-08-2013 08:48 AM

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Originally Posted by T206DK (Post 1070391)
Ok, last night I was following some vintage card auctions on ebay that I had placed bids on. I always check the bid history of every auction before and during the so I can try to detect shilling or any funny business. Last night , about 2 hours before the auctions were to end,ALL the auctions from one particular seller changed from being viewable to suddenly being private so noone could check the bid history. I didn't know sellers could change auction styles on the fly like that with such little time remaining in their auctions. This seller had a good rep with me as a vintage seller until last night. I suspect I will be seeing some of those cards that I lost last night up for sale again in 15-20 days.
Called Ebay customer service and a nice 19 year old girl made me laugh at her instead of giving me and explanation as to how this could happen

Please share with us the name of this person. Thanks.

Paul S 01-08-2013 09:17 AM

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Originally Posted by Docsports (Post 1070786)
Please share with us the name of this person. Thanks.

Am I out of line to ask why this 1st post should appear with a link to betting tips on football at this time of the season?

Paul S(pec.tor)

Leon 01-08-2013 09:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Paul S (Post 1070797)
Am I out of line to ask why this 1st post should appear with a link to betting tips on football at this time of the season?

Paul S(pec.tor)

I don't think you are out of line Paul. I just left a phone message for that user and depending on if/when/how they answer, will determine if they are a continuing member or not.

If you aren't interested in what we do on the board, but are here for any other reason, then we probably aren't going to be a long term place for you.

T206DK 01-08-2013 03:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Docsports (Post 1070786)
Please share with us the name of this person. Thanks.

I will share the name of the seller if I see the cards I lost out on re-appear for sale by the same seller in a couple of weeks. Otherwise, I don't want to accuse this seller of anything fishy. what I noticed after looking at all the auctions I was bidding on and tracking with gavelsnipe was that I lost every auction. in some cases a private bidder bid up in small increments until my bid was passed. I think two auctions there were 19 bids placed one afterthe other until I was outbid. the gavelsnipe auctions I tried with this seller all had a similar bid patter with the bidder placing a double bid as his last bid after surpassing the previous high bidder. It looked like someone was just placing probative bids until they outbid me and the in some cases placed one more bid right after that to perhaps ensure a win or if it was shilling , to ensure a certain price was met

Deertick 01-08-2013 04:19 PM

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Originally Posted by markf31 (Post 1070398)
He said he most often does it when he’s notified by an auction bidder who had been contacted by a 3rd party, offering for sale the exact same item my father has for auction. This is of course against Ebay policy so my father (along with the valid bidder) reports the 3rd party to Ebay and promptly switches the auction to private to protect all current and future bidders on his auction from being contacted in a similar fashion.

How is that possible? How can someone A) know who the bidder is, and B) then contact them? Back in the day, sure, but now?

tbob 01-09-2013 10:57 AM

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Originally Posted by Deertick (Post 1070969)
How is that possible? How can someone A) know who the bidder is, and B) then contact them? Back in the day, sure, but now?


That was the same thing I was thinking. How is this possible???


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