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llafoe 07-08-2012 06:28 PM

Cracker Jack
 
Is staining acceptable on all Cracker Jack cards? I've noticed staining on most cards up to SGC 80/PSA 6.

Brian Van Horn 07-08-2012 06:43 PM

On 1914 cards staining is a prerequisite. 1915 cards didn't always come in the boxes and examples exist without stains.

Cardboard Junkie 07-08-2012 06:48 PM

Yikes! :eek: Stains on a psa6 ...outrageous! That would be like giving an 8 to a trimmed card........oops.......never mind.

Seriously though, shouldn't all cards be graded to the same standards? As far as "acceptable"...that is personal taste. I for one would never be interested in a stained card, trimmed card, card with paper loss, card with a mark on it, holes in a card or creases that "break" the paper fibers. A mild wrinkle or soft corners are okay with me (if the price is right). As far as grading goes PSA is all over the place. I don't trust em. SGC seems a little more consistent but I bustem all out anyway. aloha, dave.

Mark 07-08-2012 08:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Cardboard Junkie (Post 1012003)
Yikes! :eek: Stains on a psa6 ...outrageous! That would be like giving an 8 to a trimmed card........oops.......never mind.

Seriously though, shouldn't all cards be graded to the same standards? As far as "acceptable"...that is personal taste. I for one would never be interested in a stained card, trimmed card, card with paper loss, card with a mark on it, holes in a card or creases that "break" the paper fibers. A mild wrinkle or soft corners are okay with me (if the price is right). As far as grading goes PSA is all over the place. I don't trust em. SGC seems a little more consistent but I bustem all out anyway. aloha, dave.

I like the fact that the graders use some discretion with the Cracker Jacks. By the way, if you ever want to get over your aversion to off grade cards, I suggest that you take up collecting E220's. It cured me.

llafoe 07-08-2012 09:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Brian Van Horn (Post 1012000)
On 1914 cards staining is a prerequisite. 1915 cards didn't always come in the boxes and examples exist without stains.

Does that mean a 1915 with staining brings a premium?

RichR 07-09-2012 05:22 AM

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Originally Posted by llafoe (Post 1012049)
Does that mean a 1915 with staining brings a premium?

No :D

Welcome from another Indy CJ collector!

travrosty 07-09-2012 07:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cardboard Junkie (Post 1012003)
Yikes! :eek: Stains on a psa6 ...outrageous! That would be like giving an 8 to a trimmed card........oops.......never mind.

Seriously though, shouldn't all cards be graded to the same standards? As far as "acceptable"...that is personal taste. I for one would never be interested in a stained card, trimmed card, card with paper loss, card with a mark on it, holes in a card or creases that "break" the paper fibers. A mild wrinkle or soft corners are okay with me (if the price is right). As far as grading goes PSA is all over the place. I don't trust em. SGC seems a little more consistent but I bustem all out anyway. aloha, dave.



busting them out is the only way to go. of course they dont use the same standards for all cards, and all graders within the same company grade different too. thats why someone can send in a card and it comes back a psa 6, then take it out of the holder, send it back in and it comes back a psa 8, a 60 dollar card is now an 800 dollar card. its insanity but people seem to love insanity.

only in bizarro world can a 10 pristine card still have flaws, its right in their description. we would think a 10 would be impeccably and unimprovably perfect. but no, we would all be wrong, it's a psa 11 that is perfect.

markf31 07-09-2012 08:44 AM

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Originally Posted by llafoe (Post 1011992)
Is staining acceptable on all Cracker Jack cards? I've noticed staining on most cards up to SGC 80/PSA 6.

If you read the grading standards for PSA, a card graded 6 "may show some loss of original gloss, may have minor wax stain on reverse." If a card can exhibit wax stains from a wax pack, I find it completely acceptable that a CJ can exhibit staining as well and still be graded a 6. I think it's spelled out pretty clearly in their standards.

glenv 07-09-2012 10:27 AM

There is a big difference between minor wax stains on the back of a card and caramel stains on the front.

Cardboard Junkie 07-09-2012 10:32 AM

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Originally Posted by glenv (Post 1012180)
There is a big difference between minor wax stains on the back of a card and caramel stains on the front.

+1


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