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Big Six 06-19-2012 03:01 PM

Is there a more fascinating baseball character than...
 
Hal Chase? Talk about a guy who had his hand in just about everything (including the Black Sox scandal), was among the most talented players in the game (yet won't ever be in the Hall of Fame), was so popular he had FOUR T206 cards when many Hall of Famers only had three or less and was considered the "Prince" of the game yet died a pauper.... I wonder what his career would look like today versus the turn of the 20th century.

Show your Chase's or tell me who is more interesting than Prince Hal...

http://www.collectorfocus.com/images...5175/hal-chase

I would love to see some pictures of Chase, too!!!

atx840 06-19-2012 03:11 PM

One of my favourites.

http://i.imgur.com/qiGre.jpg

Mikehealer 06-19-2012 03:16 PM

He had 5 t206 cards.

mordecaibrown 06-19-2012 03:16 PM

Five T206
 
I dont know much about Chase, but he actually had 5 T206 cards:

blue portrait, pink portrait, white cap, black cap, and holding the trophy.

ullmandds 06-19-2012 03:43 PM

Agreed...Hal was as interesting as they come. Also interesting to raise this thread while also discussing whether Bonds, Clemens will ever make the hall.

It seems a lot of players participated in corruption in the early days...yet only a few were made an example of...like Hal! I wonder if this will also be the case regarding players in the steroid era...many will eventually get in...but a few will be made examples of?!

tedzan 06-19-2012 04:26 PM

Babe Ruth once commented that there isn't a finer 1st baseman in BB than Hal Chase. Ruth also said that he styled his batting swing after Joe Jackson's swing.
But, even with those endorsements....Hal Chase and Joe Jackson still are not in the Hall of Fame....tis a shame.


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CW 06-19-2012 04:31 PM

While I can't claim that they are more interesting characters from the game, a few that come to mind who might be on par Chase would be the obvious choices of Babe Ruth and Ty Cobb, or maybe the slightly more obscure Rube Waddell (he would be my pick for most fascinating character in baseball).

I enjoy checking out all the Chase cards/items, so keep 'em comin'!!

Davy_Kangaroo_Jones 06-19-2012 04:37 PM

Didn't Jerry Downs rob a bank?

Abravefan11 06-19-2012 04:41 PM

T206 Black Cap
 
https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-o...rkCycle350.jpg

Ladder7 06-19-2012 04:48 PM

Chick Stahl may have off'd himself when one of his many mistresses threatened to spill all the beans.

dstraate 06-19-2012 07:02 PM

How about a vote for Big Ed Dehlanty? Only player I've heard of to go over Niagara Falls sans barrel.

Davy_Kangaroo_Jones 06-19-2012 07:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dstraate (Post 1005377)
How about a vote for Big Ed Dehlanty? Only player I've heard of to go over Niagara Falls sans barrel.

I never heard that. What happened? :)

familytoad 06-19-2012 07:36 PM

Honesty
 
:rolleyes:Hal Chase and Roger Clemens threads on top of the board...separated by nearly a century but still the same thing to me...nothing interesting at all in guys who aren't honest and who refuse to uphold any value or integrity for baseball.

There are a LOT more interesting characters to me...like Dummy Hoy or Pete Gray, all of the WW2 heroes including Warren Spahn, Bob Feller and Ted Williams, color barrier guys like Jackie Robinson and Larry Doby, eccentric but honest baseball guys like Nick Altrock, Bob Uecker, Mark Fidyrich. Victims of fate like Eddie Waitkus, Addie Joss, Lyman Bostock or Thurman Munson.
Old timers with fascinating stories like Old Hoss Radbourne ,Ed Delehanty or Bugs Raymond.

Clemens and Chase...not for this baseball fan!:mad:

tjlives 06-19-2012 07:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Davy_Kangaroo_Jones (Post 1005378)
I never heard that. What happened? :)

Delahanty was kicked off a train near Niagara Falls in 1903 for being drunk and disorderly. He then attempted to cross the falls by walking across the rail bridge, and was never seen again alive; his body washed up later. Theories have ranged from suicide to murder to drunken accident.

FrankWakefield 06-19-2012 08:18 PM

July 2, 1903: The Mysterious Death of Hall-Of-Famer Big Ed Delahanty by Mike Sowell.

THAT is the book to read to learn about Delahanty, and more importantly about the formation of a second league in major league baseball, how initially they didn't honor one another's contracts... Lajoie jumped contracts, and to avoid contempt proceedings after he joined Cleveland, he'd not go on any roadtrips that required him to play in or go through Pennsylvania, because he had jumped his Philadelphia A's contract. I consider this one of the top 10 baseball books for someone to read who wants to understand the history of the game.

dstraate 06-19-2012 08:41 PM

Well, I won't cite anything but Wikipedia, so take it with a grain of salt. He was drunk, and got thrown from a train. Decided to go over Niagara with his evening open. Also got stuck in a doghouse retrieving a home run, hit by cap anson. Then beat up Chuck Norris' great grandfather.

matthew 06-19-2012 08:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dstraate (Post 1005412)
Then beat up Chuck Norris' great grandfather.

Chuck found out about the incident, went back in time & finished Big Ed with a vicious roundhouse kick to the temple.

calvindog 06-19-2012 09:28 PM

<a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/calvindog/4157841809/" title="Hal Chase Signed Postcard by calvindog65, on Flickr"><img src="http://farm3.staticflickr.com/2765/4157841809_d57d370eca_o.jpg" width="870" height="1375" alt="Hal Chase Signed Postcard"></a>

<a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/calvindog/4193145484/" title="T206 Blue Portrait (Red Hindu) by calvindog65, on Flickr"><img src="http://farm3.staticflickr.com/2579/4193145484_1283b00066_o.jpg" width="900" height="761" alt="T206 Blue Portrait (Red Hindu)"></a>

<a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/calvindog/2910100804/" title="1909 Colgan's Chip Proof by calvindog65, on Flickr"><img src="http://farm4.staticflickr.com/3259/2910100804_206f765cbd_o.jpg" width="450" height="771" alt="1909 Colgan's Chip Proof"></a>

<a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/calvindog/2910106120/" title="1902-11 Sporting Life Cabinet W600 by calvindog65, on Flickr"><img src="http://farm4.staticflickr.com/3162/2910106120_1e15f456e4_o.jpg" width="750" height="1152" alt="1902-11 Sporting Life Cabinet W600"></a>

FrankWakefield 06-19-2012 09:44 PM

I think Calvin used to just be called Calvin, until one day someone asked him if he had a card of some old ballplayer. Calvin probably said he thought he might, then he proceeded to dig out a handful of seldom seen beauties, along the lines of what he just posted. The fellow looking at them, knowing what they were, looked at Calvin and said, "You DOG!!!" That was the birth of that Calvindog moniker. If it isn't true, it should be. You dog... nice cards, great signature.

calvindog 06-19-2012 09:56 PM

:)

Griffins 06-19-2012 10:14 PM

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3-2-count 06-19-2012 10:50 PM

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Jaybird 06-19-2012 11:26 PM

that CJ is phenomenal!

Bosox Blair 06-20-2012 12:55 AM

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Another Chase...

tedzan 06-20-2012 12:39 PM

Hal Chase cards....galore
 
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tedzan 06-20-2012 02:57 PM

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deadballera 06-20-2012 03:47 PM

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here's one...

Steve D 06-20-2012 07:07 PM

I've always found Moe Berg's life pretty interesting.

Steve

ullmandds 06-20-2012 07:38 PM

Yes...of course...the catcher was a spy...super interesting story!!!!

calvindog 06-20-2012 07:49 PM

<a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/calvindog/4113198656/" title="1909 Croft's Candy E92 by calvindog65, on Flickr"><img src="http://farm3.staticflickr.com/2681/4113198656_ac699bb6fd_o.jpg" width="900" height="726" alt="1909 Croft's Candy E92"></a>

<a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/calvindog/6207405141/" title="1909 Croft's Cocoa E92 by calvindog65, on Flickr"><img src="http://farm7.staticflickr.com/6004/6207405141_7a4ddf1d3b_o.jpg" width="961" height="772" alt="1909 Croft's Cocoa E92"></a>

<a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/calvindog/5930821150/" title="T206 Holding Cup (Lenox) by calvindog65, on Flickr"><img src="http://farm7.staticflickr.com/6132/5930821150_3c236f9bb3_o.jpg" width="1002" height="831" alt="T206 Holding Cup (Lenox)"></a>

<a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/calvindog/3256291466/" title="1910 Nadja Caramels E104 III by calvindog65, on Flickr"><img src="http://farm4.staticflickr.com/3505/3256291466_1cf94f4626_o.jpg" width="900" height="730" alt="1910 Nadja Caramels E104 III"></a>

Davy_Kangaroo_Jones 06-20-2012 07:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tjlives (Post 1005397)
Delahanty was kicked off a train near Niagara Falls in 1903 for being drunk and disorderly. He then attempted to cross the falls by walking across the rail bridge, and was never seen again alive; his body washed up later. Theories have ranged from suicide to murder to drunken accident.

wow

MW1 06-21-2012 12:25 AM

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Chase photo

tjb1952tjb 06-21-2012 02:58 AM

Hal Chase
 
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Pretty Blue..........

tedzan 06-21-2012 03:22 PM

One cannot have enough T206 Hal Chase cards......
 
American Lithographic thought enough of Hal Chase, that they printed his 5 cards more than any other T206 subjects......70+ front/back combinations.



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tedzan 06-26-2012 11:05 AM

And, the 5th pose of Hal Chase
 
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