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Shoeless Moe 06-19-2012 01:30 PM

1914 Buffalo Team Photo - Hal Chase?
 
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Can someone tell me if Hal Chase is in this team photo and which one he is?

milkit1 06-19-2012 01:42 PM

I do not see him on that photo.

Shoeless Moe 06-19-2012 01:48 PM

I'm not sure I see him either
 
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I think he could be possibly one of these 2, and it is a 1914 Buffalo Federal League team photo which he was a member of, so odd if he wasn't in the photo. Hmmm

Bugsy 06-19-2012 01:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Shoeless Moe (Post 1005230)
I think he could be possibly one of these 2, and it is a 1914 Buffalo Federal League team photo which he was a member of, so odd if he wasn't in the photo. Hmmm

Depends on the date of the photo. He didn't join Buffalo until late June of 1914. He was also infamous for regularly going AWOL, particularly near the end of the season.

Shoeless Moe 06-19-2012 02:12 PM

Date on back of photo
 
4/13/14

Good info Bugsy, thanks!

Bugsy 06-19-2012 02:43 PM

Here are a few more details:

"Early in the next season Chase dramatically jumped to the newly formed Federal League. After going hitless against Boston on June 20, he went to Comiskey Park the next morning to pick up his belongings, and gave Comiskey 10 days notice. However, he then went immediately to the North Side Park where he joined the Buffalo Feds. He collected a single and double in four trips before 10,000 appreciative fans. On June 22 Comiskey got an injunction order, but Chase could not be served, having left for Ontario, Canada to await developments. On the 25th, Chase returned to the lineup in Buffalo against Pittsburgh. He struck out in the first inning, and in the second inning was presented with the injunction order by the local sheriff. On July 1, Chase brought suit in Buffalo to vacate the injunction. The case began on July 9 and on July 21 the Judge ruled in favor of Chase. He returned to the lineup the next day."

http://research.sabr.org/journals/hal-chase-case

bmarlowe1 06-20-2012 11:19 PM

Chase is not in your photo.

The guy you pointed to in the bottom row has been identified as Dwight Wertz, though I can't confirm if that is correct. The guy you pointed to in the back row is very likely Fred Smith.

Shoeless Moe 06-21-2012 09:03 AM

It's actually not my photo, but one in the current Hunt Live Auction. I don't see very many team photos of Federal League teams and thought this one was pretty neat.

Dto7 09-06-2012 01:53 AM

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Originally Posted by Shoeless Moe (Post 1005222)
Can someone tell me if Hal Chase is in this team photo and which one he is?

Names of the players from an old newspaper photo of the same. Middle row has 7 players but just 6 names.

top row-Frank Delahanty, Joe Agler, Russ Ford, Harry Moran, Nick Allen, Earl Moore, Fred Smith, Del Young, Luther Bonin, Tom Downey

middle row- Joe Houser, Charlie Hanford, Perry, Brown, Larry Schlafly, Biff Schlitzer,

bottom row-Dwight Wertz, Ned Pettigrew, Gene Krapp, Art Lavigne, Dan Woodman


Don


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