T205 Collins White Elephant vs. Yellow Elephant
 

For a while now, I have been researching the T205 Collins Mouth Closed variation. I've noticed that this particular card can be found with both a yellow and white elephant.

It seems as if the white elephant is much more common than the yellow counterpart, but I wanted to get a better idea by asking the board.

Please post your T205 Collins Mouth Closed -- either white or yellow elephant.

My current example:

https://iili.io/Fj4vp9.jpg

Not mine but another example of the yellow counterpart (sorry for the small scan):

https://i.ibb.co/bdpzZ2G/collins-yellow.jpg

White elephant for comparison:

https://iili.io/Fj4LYB.jpg

Side by side comparison:

https://i.ibb.co/w6DYY5q/274637528-9...32553823-n.jpg

Thanks in advance,

Turner Engle

Mine is white. FWIW, my other A's cards also have white elephants.

It appears the yellow is more visible in the yellow elephant collins. The printer may have over laid the white elephant with yellow ink causing this. Since the "Yellow Elephant Emblem" seems to be found on Pied.25 backs only so far I would say this is another Variation to add to the set. If anyone can provide proof or reasoning why it is not I would love to hear what your thoughts are.

BTW Turner great job on the Collins research and glad to help you out with what I can. Hope to hear from you soon buddy. Be well.

Hi Turner,
I haven't checked my other A's, but this "yellow baseline" Oldring has always been one of my favorites... The Elephant isn't yellow, but multi colored.... Hope you are well. Brian

http://i138.photobucket.com/albums/q...g/Image434.jpg

That's a cool observation! I have neither...but NICE!

Great observation, Turner! Just further proof that this set has more discoveries to offer. I look closely for these types of variances and have never noticed this one before. Both of my Collins cards have the white elephant. As with the other previously discussed (but yet unrecognized) variations, I think this one has to go on the checklist.

Turner, good job with this one. I have checked all my A's cards and all have white elephant. I have seen some with a bit of yellow in the elephant like the card below but not the whole thing.

I wanted to give this thread a bump. Does anyone else have a yellow elephant Collins hiding in their collection? Post 'em if you got 'em.

Haven't even seen one since July of last yr.

Mine's white

Have 2 Collins (mouth closed), both white elephant, both Hassan backs. Do all Piedmont 25s have the yellow elephant?

Yes. Not sure how many are out there though...

My Piedmont is White
 

Turner,

Mine is a Piedmont #25 and has the white elephant. Or are you saying that the yellow elephant is only found on Piedmont 25s?

r/
Frank

Hey Frank,

Like you, my other Collins (mouth closed) has a white elephant w/ a Piedmont 25. I have only seen three Collins examples with the yellow elephant and each had a Piedmont 25 reverse. For now, I think it is safe to assume that both versions can be found with a Piedmont 25---until another one [possibly] surfaces with a different advertisement.

Hope you are well...

-Turner

Two year bump...
 

I noticed Dean's cards recently sold a Yellow Elephant with a HLC back. Any others out there?

Would love to hear opinions on whether this should be cataloged as a variation...

https://i.ibb.co/bdpzZ2G/collins-yellow.jpg

Not Mine ...
 

This is not card, but guessing you saw this one on eBay (completed auction) with a Honest Long Cut back

http://i.ebayimg.com/00/s/MTA1MFg2NT...VURKE/$_57.JPGhttp://i.ebayimg.com/00/s/MTA1MFg2ND...VURKH/$_57.JPG

http://www.ebay.com/itm/400917814141


Thanks,
James

I also have Collins WHite Elephant with a Hassan reverse.

I didn't know that this variation existed, pretty cool.

I notice that the top baseball also appears yellow on the yellow elephant card but the bottom one remains white (they are both white on the standard card). Any guesses how that happened?

Never saw this thread before.

Mine's white, Piedmont 25 back.

Super interesting, nice catch, Turner.

-Al

I have a white collins pied 25

White, too.
 

My Collins is white (Pied. 25), as are my other Athletics players.

Just checked. I have a Collins mouth shut and Baker. Both white elephants and Piedmont.

Collins
 

Recently purchased mine. White elephant. Piedmont back. You could really get the PSA registry guys fired up with this discovery! Nice work

That would be nice but PSA and SGC don't give 2 shits about T205's and any variations, scraps, errors, misprints, and such.

I've known about the variation for a while similar to the ed walsh pink diamond. Both are on t205 resource, according to their checklist none outside of pied 25 on the collins have been discovered .

Quick update for the T205 aficionados.

Not the best condition, but picked another example in Chicago. Piedmont 25.

http://i64.tinypic.com/54jdy9.jpg

Nice pickup!!!!!

Just paid for a nice one myself, Pid 25 reverse

http://i77.photobucket.com/albums/j4...pszxa1oxa9.jpg




Any idea if this one sold SGC 5 at 3500$?


http://imageevent.com/publicgallery/...=0&w=4&s=0&z=2

Any updates?

Here's mine ...
 

...white elephant.

Yearly bump

I've not seen any since

Four year bump...
 

Figured it was time to update the tally. I am aware of the following examples:

SGC 60 Piedmont 25 - Surfaced in April 2012 at Major Auction House
Raw Honest Long Cut - Surfaced in May 2015 on eBay
Raw Piedmont 25 w/hole punch - Surfaced in July 2015 at Chicago National
SGC 50 Piedmont 25 - Surfaced in August 2016 on Net54
PSA 2 Piedmont 25 - Surfaced in February 2022 at Major Auction House
Raw "partial yellow" Piedmont 25 - Surfaced in ???

Most recent discussion regarding this card: https://www.net54baseball.com/showth...94#post2197694

Any others out there that I may have missed?

Thank you to the anonymous collectors that were kind enough to send me these scans:

https://i.ibb.co/ggs7T7y/1.jpg

https://i.ibb.co/LphhbLp/2.jpg