Demmitt ohara st louis
 

How many copy of these two card are in circulation acording to you?

How much is corect price to paid for graded 1 and. 2 of these card?

I have heard estimates of 1000 each surviving (in all grade), though that seems a little much to me. I bought a trimmed and creased Demmit (thought at bad as it sounds from eye appear standpoint) for about $900 ($500/400) cash/trade. Hoping to find an Ohara for a similar cost. There are Oharas on Ebay now from $1250-6000, all of which seem a little rich for their grade. That said, they seem cheaper now than they were a few years ago.

Yep it is what I see now many look avalaible and cheaper than in the past

And i am into check to buy a low grade pair for my set And i want to paid the corect price.

The high priced BINs on eBay aren't selling, but when they go up for regular auction, they're selling for a lot less than their BIN prices (1/2 price?). A good example is a SGC 10 Demmitt that sold on eBay for $835 on March 17th (#170802667882).

THE offert is
Psa 2 demmitt + psa1 ohara
2700$shipped

I am not sure if it is a good deal

That seems high to me given some of the recent prices, but I could be wrong.

Its appears to be right on the money according to VCP's recent data.1650 for PSA 2 Demmitt and 1050 for PSA 1 O'Hara for whats its worth.

This ran it's course some time ago...

I think 1000 of each is way too high of an estimate. Price is down on these because of the economy, because some folks who bought them were less of a collector and a bit of a speculator, and because some folks look at the white border set and decide that 518 is enough.

http://www.net54baseball.com/showthr...mmitt+o%27hara

I would guess there are around 300 of each. Price of a poor example would really depend on eye-appeal, but generally would probably be in the $700-1200 range. A decent gd would probably be 1200-1600.
JimB

Thx guy
So at 2700 for a pair one psa1 and one psa2 is a little high

300-500 of each seems like a reasonable estimate....not that I've ever counted them. Just feels about right.

I dont think its a bad price at all. Probably about right.

Price sounds about right if they are not terrible examples for the technical grades.
JimB

I don't think 2700 is out of line? offer them $2500.00 and see what they say???

At 2700. THE seller had dropped his price

How do they present? If they present well for the grades id say pull the trigger.

Here is thèse 2 cards
http://www.amerlegends.com/auction/t...77389-5275.jpg
http://www.amerlegends.com/auction/t...77387-5273.jpg

Since i am in canada, i must add 15percent in fee at the 2700$. So the final price for these cards for me will be 3100$$

I would say if you are buying for a long term investment more than 5 yrs then $2700 may not be bad. If you are looking for a flip or short term then wait till you get the deal you want. They come up seemingly often in auction houses. Hope you the best in your quest.


BTW I think you were smart in buying that Plank when you did. I may be wrong but I think Goodwin's Plank will drive the price of all of them up due to the publicity and even when it fades back down from the hype the card will retain a significant percent increase in value.

Yep i also think all plank value will go up with the goodwin plank.

For the demmitt and ohara it is not for flip it is for my set but i want to have a deal, i am not in ruch i want to make a good deal

I have been looking at that OHara. I probably won't pull the trigger on it...but I have thought about it enough to where I can't say I would blame you if you did. There's another at auction on ebay at $1650 that has tempted me more...It's a GIA2 but seems to have a lot more eye appeal but will set you back and extra $500.

I need about 8 to finish my set of 518, I already have the Demmitt, I think I can wait for the right Ohara to come along. The $400 I save will go a long way to helping me upgrade my bat off Cobb.

Plank has been the one I have always wanted but i have never been in a position in 40 years of collecting to make a serious play for one. Wagner is just out of the question and honestly, I just am not that big of a fan of the Magie...it seems WAY closer in scarcity to the Ohara/Demmitt that the Plank to me...I have consigned one and know of two others that have come out of the local area in the last 20 years...it could just be a function of the fact that I live in Piedmont land and Polar Bears don't come up in lots that have their origin locally very often (Old Mills are the nest most frequent). Of course there are a lot of guys more knowlegeable than I on this board.

FWIW, I sold my SGC 20 O'Hara this past summer for $1,500.

I'd hold off on those two examples at $2,700.

For me
Magie,ohara and demmitt are in the same class
Plank and wagner are in another class

Finally i think i will passe on these ohara and demmitt and use the money i have for afford more t206 hof.

At this point, you should just move down to New York -- American Legends (the seller of those Demmitt/O'Hara cards you shared) is a 15 minute drive from my house!

If 1 day i travel to ny, you will be the first avised Paul hehe

I never travel to ny but 1 day i will see it in my life

That same card could have gone for $950 a week before or after. I think I got it cheap, but another in about the same condition went unsold at an $899 starting price a week or two earlier, so who knows. It is not the greatest $835 Demmitt, but I've seen worse. My ceiling was $910 on it, but the scans were horrible, and I thought it might be an upgrade.

When you are dealing with 'poor', 'poor-fair', 'fair' and even 'good' graded cards with book values of $1000+, there are all sorts of ridiculous prices paid for equally ridiculous reasons, mostly involving buying the holder instead of the card, and there is also the 'flip' anomaly to consider: PSA 1's can be labelled 'poor' or 'poor-fair', depending on age. Some flip collectors will bid up a 'poor-fair' 1 that is uglier than a 'poor' 1, even though both are '1's.

Also, 'poor' can mean the dog chewed it up and spit it out, or it can be quite presentable. 'Good' can have a crease right through the player's eyeballs and often looks worse than a 'fair'.

But with this value of card, the flip game can work in the buyer's favor: I try to pay 'poor' flip prices for 'poor' graded cards that have good eye appeal.

So for you 2700$ + 400 in custom fee for these card are too high?

I really like dealing with that seller, so hate to push a customer away from him, but $3,100 seems like a lot to me. On the other hand, if I didn't have both of those cards, I might make him an offer and use them as fillers until I could find better.

I understand that.

I will Perhaps make offert

I folow your advice and just make an offert
And my offert was declined

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Did anyone here pluck the Ohara off ebay yesterday? It was not a bad looking low grade card. I bid up to the most I thought it was worth and didn't get it, so I can live with it fine.

I think it went about where it should have.

I was the underbidder so I concur.

I was the under-under-bidder :)