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HOF Auto Rookies 02-29-2012 11:25 AM

Authentic '55 Koufax?
 
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Ok, here are some pics of this 1955 Koufax, it's signed, sold for extremely low. Is this truly an authentic card? If it is, what a steal.

ALR-bishop 02-29-2012 01:05 PM

55 Koufax
 
What did it sell for and where ? Ebay ?

This card is center stage in the Stephen King book Needful Things

novakjr 02-29-2012 01:46 PM

Al, I'm pretty sure it was a signed '56 Koufax. In the movie however, I think it was a signed '56 Mantle...

HOF Auto Rookies 02-29-2012 01:50 PM

Don't see how the price and the place was sold really relates to my question...

con40 02-29-2012 01:59 PM

55 Koufax...
 
Wouldn't be more likely that the price of the card was depressed because of the possibly non-authentic signature on it? The card is potentially a PSA 1, if gradeable at all, so the bidder is likely taking that (huge) risk into account when bidding.

HOF Auto Rookies 02-29-2012 02:16 PM

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Originally Posted by con40 (Post 971514)
Wouldn't be more likely that the price of the card was depressed because of the possibly non-authentic signature on it? The card is potentially a PSA 1, if gradeable at all, so the bidder is likely taking that (huge) risk into account when bidding.

How do you figured this is a 1? This card, if authentic, is gorgeous and would easily grade a 6 at best. IMHO

I don't want to mention the price because the price would skew ppl's opinions on whether this is authentic or not. If it sold for a low amount, ppl would think it isn't authentic beacuse Sandy charges $400 to sign a card, and a card of this card is worth at least $400-$600+ alone. If it sold for a high amount, then ppl will believe that it is indeed authentic or why would someone pay that much for a questionable card...IMHO

novakjr 02-29-2012 02:27 PM

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Originally Posted by HOF Auto Rookies (Post 971521)
How do you figured this is a 1? This card, if authentic, is gorgeous and would easily grade a 6 at best. IMHO

I don't want to mention the price because the price would skew ppl's opinions on whether this is authentic or not. If it sold for a low amount, ppl would think it isn't authentic beacuse Sandy charges $400 to sign a card, and a card of this card is worth at least $400-$600+ alone. If it sold for a high amount, then ppl will believe that it is indeed authentic or why would someone pay that much for a questionable card...IMHO

Assuming the card IS authentic, if the signature is NOT authentic, then the card is probably a 1 because of the writing...Possibly, not even gradable, because of the fraudulent signature. They may not wanna slab it, because it could create some confusion as to whether or not the signature is authentic.. I think that's what Keith was trying to say..

ALR-bishop 02-29-2012 02:48 PM

David--you are right, it was a 56 in the Book. I did not see the movie. King usually has a lot of input into his movies. Wonder how he felt about the switch to Mantle. He is a big Boston fan

The place and price are relevant if it was ebay since savvy investors may have laid off on an ungraded auto. If it was an auction house with some representation, that would be something else. I assume you have an opinion, and you have more info. But never mind.....

bcbgcbrcb 02-29-2012 02:49 PM

I think that you are on the money, David.

HOF Auto Rookies 02-29-2012 03:05 PM

Really!?!?!
 
Ok, you guys are putting up some great points, but that STILL unbelievably isn't answering my very VERY simple, most obvious question that I thought was self-explanatory, but apparantly it isn't.

Here is my question again, and if you struggle with it, R-E-A-D it slow to comprehend it, please.

IS THIS CARD AUTHENTIC!!!???? That's all I want to know, I NEVER once asked about the signature in my original post. I simply asked whether the card is authentic or not.

So, plain and simple, authentic yes or no. Not that difficult. If you want to talk about the signature, or what not, I don't care. Don't waste your time posting a reply.

Is this card authentic? Yes or No.

Thank you

ALR-bishop 02-29-2012 03:24 PM

Koufax
 
I am too ignorant and lack the reading skills to be of any help here so I will bow out. Sorry.

HRBAKER 02-29-2012 03:28 PM

If it's not that difficult, shouldn't you know already?

Read this slowly, I CAN'T TELL.

The fact the card went for what you consider is a low price is most likely bc people who collect signed cards/rookies either prefer a graded/authenticated copy or weren't comfortable with the signature - or didn't see it. On the other hand a collector who would pay "6" money for the that card unsigned isn't gonna pay anywhere close to that for this bc it has writing on it.

HOF Auto Rookies 02-29-2012 03:38 PM

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Originally Posted by HRBAKER (Post 971560)
If it's not that difficult, shouldn't you know already?

Read this slowly, I CAN'T TELL.

The fact the card went for what you consider is a low price is most likely bc people who collect signed cards/rookies either prefer a graded/authenticated copy or weren't comfortable with the signature - or didn't see it. On the other hand a collector who would pay "6" money for the that card unsigned isn't gonna pay anywhere close to that for this bc it has writing on it.

What is "low" to me, may not necessarily mean low to others. "Low" to me could be $1,000. etc.

campyfan39 02-29-2012 07:25 PM

I can read and I say the card looks authentic to me :)

HOF Auto Rookies 02-29-2012 08:27 PM

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Originally Posted by campyfan39 (Post 971613)
I can read and I say the card looks authentic to me :)

Perfect! Thanks for your input! Wish it were a reprint now...

Gr8Beldini 03-02-2012 05:50 AM

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Originally Posted by HOF Auto Rookies (Post 971549)

Here is my question again, and if you struggle with it, R-E-A-D it slow to comprehend it, please.

Is this card authentic? Yes or No.

Can you type the question slower?


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