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Leon 12-13-2011 08:01 AM

Would you pay $25 for this? Joe Jackson Bat sawdust
 
I don't know who the seller is. He is probably a great guy. I am just curious how many on this board would buy this at any price? So, what price would you pay for it?



http://www.ebay.com/itm/Shoeless-Joe...-/320812853706





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GrayGhost 12-13-2011 08:10 AM

5.00 Leon, Kinda cool, but that's about it.

Leon 12-13-2011 08:11 AM

my vote
 
My vote was $1.00 as I could resell it for a bit more :).

timzcardz 12-13-2011 08:17 AM

Ummmm, shouldn't this really be over on the memorabilia side? :rolleyes:



Sorry, Leon, but I just couldn't resist. :D

Leon 12-13-2011 08:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by timzcardz (Post 947034)
Ummmm, shouldn't this really be over on the memorabilia side? :rolleyes:




Sorry, Leon, but I just couldn't resist. :D


I thought about moving it but figure I can have an off topic every now and then. I have warned myself though :). Next time I will give myself an infraction or boot me....

steve B 12-13-2011 08:36 AM

Highland mint made plaques or something with little wood slices, and some coin type things. When they started offering the sawdust I thought it was silly, but also a creative way of squeezing every last bit of use out of whatever they were cutting up.

And I hate that they cut that stuff up -Assuming any of it was real.

I have a nice piece of ash out in the wodshop, when I make something out of it I'd be happy to send along some sawdust or half inch squares thin enough to put on a card........

I did use wood from the first christmas tree my wfe and I had to make ornaments for family, and they were quite popular.

Steve B

dstraate 12-13-2011 09:10 AM

At some point, things stop being memorabilia, or collectibles, and start manipulating the eccentricities of collectors. And boy are there some eccentricities among us!:D

BleedinBlue 12-13-2011 09:16 AM

Not interested today
 
There was a time when I would have spent $1 on it. Not anymore. It's not worth remembering that I have it somewhere in my collection. Worthless in my opinion.

Jcfowler6 12-13-2011 09:43 AM

I would have paid him $100 to not cut the bat up. Is there any other hobby that destroys its goods like this? Doesn't make any sense at all.

alanu 12-13-2011 10:01 AM

$1
 
$1, but I would pay $2 if it didn't say between 1916-21.

By 1921 it's just as likely he was playing stickball or something else out in the street.

or maybe the 21 doesn't refer to a date... so $2 then

yanksfan09 12-13-2011 10:09 AM

$0

You have to be real careful when buying dust off the street in little pouches.....You never know if it's the real stuff.

Even if it is it could be cut with some fake filler and you might not be getting the 100% real deal. There could be some new Louisville Slugger Dust in that stuff too. You gotta be careful,

Stay clean...

alanu 12-13-2011 10:16 AM

I foresee a thread in about 6 months discussing whether a game-used Jackson bat was "doctored" or created from the little bags of game-used sawdust...

ChiSoxFan 12-13-2011 10:31 AM

Here is an auction (not mine) for $200 for the sawdust ...

http://www.ebay.com/itm/1916-HM-SHOE...ht_2788wt_1200

ChiSoxFan

brob28 12-13-2011 10:36 AM

Not worth a dime to me. At one time (assuming it is legit) it was an incredible piece of baseball history. It's now worthless to me.

Of course I could buy it, split it into two bags of sawdust and double my money...

brob28 12-13-2011 10:39 AM

ChiSoxFan - it's amazing how much time that guy spent in his description making sure everyone looking at the listing knows just who Joe Jackson is.

PS I'm a Sox fan too & a bit nervous about KW rebuilding this team.

RichardSimon 12-13-2011 10:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BleedinBlue (Post 947048)
There was a time when I would have spent $1 on it. Not anymore. It's not worth remembering that I have it somewhere in my collection. Worthless in my opinion.

+1

Fake pieces of cloth on cards, autographs cut up to post on cards resulting in missing letters, bats cut up to put on cards.
This hobby is so self destructive and only for one reason, the extraordinary measures that companies will take in pursuit of the $$$$.
The business of America is business, I totally understand that. But lets temper that statement with a modicum of sense and not an utter lack of class and a total lack of the sense of the history of what they are destroying.

iwantitiwinit 12-13-2011 10:51 AM

Ditto. I find your last sentance interesting though. If there were a buyer for this dust how much do they require? Is 1 oz worht $100 and therefore 1/2 oz is only worth $50. Where is the supply/dmd inflection point. Can I sell 1/10th of an oz for $100 as easily as 1 oz?
Quote:

Originally Posted by brob28 (Post 947072)
Not worth a dime to me. At one time (assuming it is legit) it was an incredible piece of baseball history. It's now worthless to me.

Of course I could buy it, split it into two bags of sawdust and double my money...


Rickyy 12-13-2011 11:27 AM

Please say it ain't so!

Ricky Y

alanu 12-13-2011 11:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by iwantitiwinit (Post 947077)
Ditto. I find your last sentance interesting though. If there were a buyer for this dust how much do they require? Is 1 oz worht $100 and therefore 1/2 oz is only worth $50. Where is the supply/dmd inflection point. Can I sell 1/10th of an oz for $100 as easily as 1 oz?

I see this sawdust on the commodities market soon.

ethicsprof 12-13-2011 11:38 AM

sawdust joe jackson
 
I chose $0 but would have picked $.25 in honor of Leon's ubiquitous quarter but the choice was not available.
all the best,
barry

Runscott 12-13-2011 11:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by iwantitiwinit (Post 947077)
Ditto. I find your last sentance interesting though. If there were a buyer for this dust how much do they require? Is 1 oz worht $100 and therefore 1/2 oz is only worth $50. Where is the supply/dmd inflection point. Can I sell 1/10th of an oz for $100 as easily as 1 oz?

For argument: 40 oz original bat, worth $50,000 - that's $1,250/ounce. Break-even for the seller at $100/'vile' is under 1/10 ounce.

The good news: highly unlikely it came from a Jackson bat, or even from a bat.

WhenItWasAHobby 12-13-2011 12:08 PM

Wouldn't buy it for any price. By paying anything for this type of stuff only encourages more destruction of these allegedly historical relics.

doug.goodman 12-13-2011 01:10 PM

IF somebody can PROVE to me that this is actually sawdust from Joe Jackson bat, I still would have no interest, only sadness that a Joe Jackson bat has been destroyed.

But, since I doubt that it ever was a Joe Jackson bat, I feel only sadness at what our "hobby" has become.

Is this stuff graded authentic, or did it get a number? The picture is too smalll to tell.

Doug

steve B 12-13-2011 07:28 PM

Not graded, just put in a capsule by Highland mint.

They currently make stuff like this
http://www.highlandmint.com/2005worl...photomint.aspx

Or more commonly medal type items with dirt inside.

http://www.highlandmint.com/national...tkeychain.aspx


The Game used bat ones looked like this
http://www.worthpoint.com/worthopedi...used-119003378

And the sawdust was the leftovers from making the little slices of bat to frame with the photo. They had a COA with pictures on the back showing what they'd cut up.

These predate the "game used" cards, and probably inspired them.

And yeah, I think they should be beaten for cutting up that stuff.

Steve B

Tim Kindler 12-13-2011 07:48 PM

It's Magic Dust!
 
I swear it's just oregano officer!:p

Texxxx 12-13-2011 09:01 PM

If they would throw in a book of matches I would give them $.10. It would make a good fire starter!

teetwoohsix 12-14-2011 02:18 AM

This is too funny. Game used mint?:rolleyes:

Gary Dunaier 12-20-2011 09:21 PM

One dealer at the 2008 All-Star Fanfest in New York had a ton of 'em...

http://farm4.staticflickr.com/3170/2...6811abf9_z.jpg
(Photo taken July 14, 2008. © Gary Dunaier. Link to upload on Flickr.com: here.)

The dealer who was selling these said they came out "a few years ago," and that he hadn't seen them around for sale that much and he was pretty much the only guy who was selling them. They may very well be fakes, but I bought a couple of Ty Cobbs ($15 apiece) because these were produced by the Highland Mint, and I trust them when it comes to authenticity.

Shoeless Moe 12-21-2011 10:55 AM

We'll soon find out
 
........seller changed from BIN to Auction

currently at 10 bucks

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Shoeless-Joe...item4ab21f8d48


(My personal vote was for $10 bucks - but I guess this will end at about 20-25)

Leon 12-21-2011 11:00 AM

kind of interesting
 
I wonder if someone directed the seller to this site? My $5 option stands but I probably wouldn't even buy one for that much. As I said it would only be to sell it for a profit and the $5-$10 profit vs time spent can be better spent. (opportunity cost of time) To each their own though and if someone wants to collect these little bags of dust more power to them. It doesn't harm me so I don't care...LL

novakjr 12-21-2011 11:02 AM

Sorry, I wanna change my vote...I put $5, which I think if given the opportunity to buy it for that, I'd seriously consider it. However, after giving it some thought, I'd never touch this, because the acceptance of such garbage only further advocates the destruction of such historical items..

Gary Dunaier 12-21-2011 12:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shoeless Moe (Post 949003)
........seller changed from BIN to Auction

currently at 10 bucks

He's got two of these on Ebay... one is the auction Shoeless Moe is referring to, and the other is a BIN at $100.

The auction ends at 19:47:57 PST tonight (that's 7.47pm PST, or 10.47pm here in the East)... be interesting to see what it goes for.

And no, I don't plan to bid. The two Cobbs I have are enough. Closest I'll ever have to an actual Cobb bat.

kmac32 12-21-2011 06:07 PM

Might buy it if it were carbon dated and they found shoeless Joe's DNA on it along with certification from JSA

batsballsbases 12-21-2011 08:51 PM

ashes to ashes dust to dust
 
Leon,
P.T. Barnum said it best! ;););):D


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