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mintacular 04-22-2011 09:22 PM

Is it me?
 
Or does this card look trimmed? Bat ears all over the place:

http://cgi.ebay.com/1957-Topps-295-J...#ht_766wt_1185

Jmad 04-22-2011 09:51 PM

Great learning experience for me (and any other novice collectors still learning). What do you mean by bat ears? I look at this card and see sharp corners, which would be indicative of a 9??


Thanks for sharing!

timn1 04-22-2011 10:00 PM

bat ears
 
I do see bat ears on the bottom corners (not on the top). If the corners come to a point that seems to overhang the bottom borders (in this case), there is cause for suspicion. It's hard to believe that PSA wouldn't spot a trim job on a 1957 Topps card, but the company has proved itself untrustworthy in so many ways that nothing surprises me anymore.

mintacular 04-22-2011 10:04 PM

Response
 
For the record, I do not claim to be a grading expert. It is very possible that this card is a legit 9. However, from my experience, it is also possible there is more than meets the eye....I own a high grade '57 set (not quite this high) and it seems to me a banana effect on bottom border which could be my wrong interpretation also known as bat ears. It is possible this submitter had due dilligence to submit this altered card (worth $10 as such) over and over until they go their desired grade, which x100 or more the $....JMO

Look how both corners "dip down". I talked to a veteran hobbyist who visited PSAs grading procedures and bascially he said the grades spent a few seconds on each cards with a stack in front of them and made very quick judgments...

mintacular 04-22-2011 10:06 PM

Arch
 
Look at that arch, they have another card like that too for sale...I own a 90% complete EX-MT-ish '57 set and i can't say one card has an obviously wierd dowward cut as these---Seems to me there might be an issue here. Also, I also talked to a veteran hobbyist recently and he said he visited PSA hqrs and basically said the graders took about 10-30 seconds to grade a card...

Jmad 04-22-2011 10:19 PM

That is very interesting. I can see the arch on the bottom now that you have pointed it out. I can't decide if my eyes are playing tricks, but even without enlarging it I can see an arch. It also appears the bottom corners follow the arch and dip below the borders.

mintacular 04-22-2011 10:19 PM

Pointy
 
Look how point these corners are! You should be able to draw a straight line from one corner to another but look how they dip down!

http://cgi.ebay.com/1957-Topps-391-R...#ht_765wt_1185


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