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danmckee 02-22-2011 04:27 PM

Is anyone buying this newly made junk or are all of these auctions shilled?
 
http://shop.ebay.com/sirraffles/m.ht...id=p4340.l2562

ullmandds 02-22-2011 04:34 PM

I think people are buying them! Despite being modern fantasy-ish pieces...people seem to like them...I kinda like them...they're done pretty well...but will not pay such crazy prices for them!

alanu 02-22-2011 04:35 PM

I have bid on a few of the cards and quite a bit of the original artwork, but have never won any of the auctions.

danmckee 02-22-2011 04:39 PM

ok neat! I see many of the bidders with 57% and 49% bidding with this seller so I wondered. The Mantle piece is at $175.

Simply amazing

bh3443 02-22-2011 04:44 PM

helmar art
 
Well, people buy what they like I guess!
Did you ever wonder why Helmar spelled backwards is Ramleh? I always wondered if this was deliberate and if the 2 companies are actually one!
Thanks,
Bill

ChiefBenderForever 02-22-2011 04:52 PM

The stuff is pretty cool, goes to show originality makes money. I won a bottle top lock from them a year or so ago and it really looks cool, excellent craftsmanship. They had a few other things I liked but bids got to high.

danmckee 02-22-2011 04:58 PM

I agree the stuff looks neat but I think it is bringing way more than newly made stuff should. I saw the bottle tops and they were fairly cheap, ok I can see that. But this stuff is bringing prices as if it were vintage almost. I also don't like the fact that they make them to look old and do not put a production date on them.

Mollys Dad 02-22-2011 05:11 PM

Neat looking stuff but somewhere along the line some poor sap(s) unfamiliar with this stuff is going to get screwed.

Exhibitman 02-22-2011 05:45 PM

As I understand it, the Helmar name resulted from a lawsuit by Ramly against Ramleh for infringing on its trade name. I think there was an article about it published some time ago, but I don't recall where.

HRBAKER 02-22-2011 05:59 PM

I have bought a few of the players I collect. Well done, wouldn't call them junk but lately they have gotten fairly pricey for what they are.

GoldenAge50s 02-22-2011 06:03 PM

I'm w/ Dan on this one! I think there is shilling going on from a couple of ID's w/ high % of bids--the prices are insane!

hunterdutchess 02-22-2011 06:07 PM

I think that all cards are "man made". He is shilling and why not if he can make these at will, just second chance offer everyone and relist if no one bites.

bcornell 02-22-2011 06:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Exhibitman (Post 873343)
As I understand it, the Helmar name resulted from a lawsuit by Ramly against Ramleh for infringing on its trade name. I think there was an article about it published some time ago, but I don't recall where.

Ramleh vs Ramly: A 1908 Feud that Benefits Today’s Collectors, written by Lyman.

Surprised you forgot, Adam - that's the same site with your mug on the homepage.


Bill

Harford20 02-22-2011 07:13 PM

SirRaffles and Helmar
 
I have purchased about 4 different "Polo Grounds" cards for a Polo grounds display I am making with T206 cards. They fit very well in this type of display. The cards are thick, laminated sheet of wood with the transfer or painting on them. I did purchase them about 10-12 months ago and have watched the prices soar to ranges that I would rather spend the money on a true pre-war card. I have also purchased 4 Trolley Cards (Mathewson, Lajoie, Brown and Chance) and have made them into a display. The cards really do present well.

I have also had several lengthy email discussions with the seller, and was very impressed with his responses. The Helmar Brewing Company is tied closely to this seller (will not disclose more due to privacy) and I in no way have concern about his honesty.
Dave H.

bh3443 02-22-2011 08:02 PM

thank you Bill & Exhibit man!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by bcornell (Post 873354)
Ramleh vs Ramly: A 1908 Feud that Benefits Today’s Collectors, written by Lyman.

Surprised you forgot, Adam - that's the same site with your mug on the homepage.


Bill

Thank you, gentlemen. This nice article finally puts this to rest!
Thanks again from your friend,
Bill Hedin

smtjoy 02-22-2011 09:21 PM

As I posted in another thread, I have purchased a couple and just really liked the look of them and have lost bidding on a number. I plan to add a few more to my collection in the future.

I dont understand why people take issue with them, collect what you like and let others do the same. Shame on you for calling what I collect junk.


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