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tinkereversandme 11-30-2010 04:55 PM

Mike Gutierrez & Stolen HOF Documents - Hauls Of Shame
 
http://haulsofshame.com/blog/?p=2482#more-2482

This is simply amazing to me. Two comments: Heritage responded to this article at the bottom of the page, and a comment that says: "Hauls of Shame is becoming the hobby’s WikiLeaks!". I really enjoy this web masters site.

Larry

Kawika 11-30-2010 05:13 PM

nm

RichardSimon 11-30-2010 05:19 PM

"In an abundance of caution, we recently questioned Mike about these specific accusations, as has Antiques Roadshow. We believe Mike was open and honest with us in responding to our questions, and we were very satisfied with his answers.'"
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Questioned about these specific accusations? Satisfied with his answers?
I would like to have been a fly on the wall when that questioning went on.

J.McMurry 11-30-2010 05:58 PM

So Basically the article paints nearly every major name in the Autograph hobby as dishonest greedy thieves. Very sad and disturbing. I wish they would at least attempt to explain their side.

Richard, my respect for you was already high, but it grows even more with each of these revelations which never mention your name in a negative light.

HRBAKER 11-30-2010 06:15 PM

What a hobby. And to think I chose card collecting over TV evangelism.

RichardSimon 11-30-2010 06:15 PM

Thank you Jody.
I believe that the author of the article gave Mr Gutierrez a chance to comment and explain his side and Mr Gutierrez chose not to explain his side.
This story, of the theft, was told to me many years ago, by the person referred to in the article as the eyewitness at the Hall of Fame.
Though I have been asked to reveal his identity that is something that I won't do.

hcv123 11-30-2010 06:45 PM

Why?
 
Why would the HOF have stopped the original investigation? Who currently at the hall is charged with the security of its holdings?

base_ball 11-30-2010 07:21 PM

This theft happened a long time ago. It was clearly a case of youthful indiscretion, as were all of these thefts.

RichardSimon 11-30-2010 07:48 PM

Joe - are you being sarcastic or is that what you believe? Sometimes in print it is hard to distinguish between the two.
Mr Gutierez was a full time dealer during the time that is referred to in the story.

19cbb 11-30-2010 07:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by base_ball (Post 851762)
This theft happened a long time ago. It was clearly a case of youthful indiscretion, as were all of these thefts.

http://i.imgur.com/gUyAr.gif

base_ball 11-30-2010 08:36 PM

Richard: I think Jimmy got my drift...

chaddurbin 11-30-2010 09:46 PM

fascinating read, thanks for the link.

Giants00 11-30-2010 10:09 PM

To be fair
 
http://www.sportscollectorsdaily.com...series-trophy/

As always, nothing is simple

slidekellyslide 11-30-2010 10:24 PM

This dude is seriously horning in on O'Keeffe's territory. I am a bit stunned at this latest revelation. Who's next?

J.McMurry 12-01-2010 04:58 AM

Quote:

Among other things, the couple claims Nash made bodily threats ....

suddenly the image of Nash showing them the video of Pop goes the weasel came to mind.:D

insidethewrapper 12-01-2010 02:16 PM

Have the letters been returned to the Hall of Fame from the various auctions ? What are their status ? If they are stolen from the Hall of Fame they should be returned. Are the auction houses keeping these ? Anybody know ?

hcv123 12-01-2010 10:12 PM

Horrible!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Giants00 (Post 851815)



For sure, Nash is a first class, two faced, fast talking swindler. That not withstanding, the information he is bringing to light exposing others of his kind seems pretty straight forward and hard to dispute. Boy what people do for money - really, really sad.

BBSD 12-01-2010 11:25 PM

Larry: Thank you for posting. Interesting and disturbing read. Barry

TexasLeaguer 12-02-2010 08:42 AM

can't trust anyone
 
Wow. Truth is stranger than fiction. People at the highest level, and within the most respected companies in the hobby are still not above common thuggery. It's shameful.

Matt 12-02-2010 10:42 AM

I wonder if Lew Lipsett is going to continue using Gutierrez as his authenticator for next year's auction.

Anthony S. 12-02-2010 11:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Matt (Post 852187)
I wonder if Lew Lipsett is going to continue using Gutierrez as his authenticator for next year's auction.

As long as Lew counts the items both before and after the authentications, it shouldn't be a problem.

sago 12-02-2010 12:02 PM

The one thing Heritage has not addressed (unless I missed it) is why they continue to accept any letters from or to August Herrmann?

It's obvious that Herrmann's correspondence was thorough and complete in the papers he donated. Any letters with his name on it should be checked with the National Baseball Library archives.

19cbb 12-02-2010 07:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Anthony S. (Post 852194)
As long as Lew counts the items both before and after the authentications, it shouldn't be a problem.

Geez...! Tough crowd, man....tough crowd!

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bigtrain 12-02-2010 09:45 PM

Mr. Nash has obviously put a lot of time and effort into his investigation and that appears to be a benefit to the hobby. However, in light of the new lawsuit discussed on Sports Collectors Daily, one wonders whether his time might not be better spent finding a way to earn an honest living.

J.McMurry 12-03-2010 04:48 AM

Quote:

The one thing Heritage has not addressed (unless I missed it) is why they continue to accept any letters from or to August Herrmann?
Thats easy, M-O-N-E-Y.


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