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FYI....T206 OLD MILL confirmed lists
Dated Oct 6, 2020
http://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan7...seblue50xb.jpg To date....311 subjects (Major Leaguers) have been confirmed. They are listed here with respect to their T206 series. 150/350 Series..................125 subjects Abbaticchio (brown sleeves) Alperman Ames (portrait) Ball (New York) Bates Beaumont Bell (hands over head) Bender (portrait) Bergen (bat) Birmingham Bowerman Bradley (portrait) Bransfield Bridwell (portrait-no cap) Bresnahan (portrait) M. Brown (portrait) Camnitz (arms folded) Chance (red portrait) Chase (pink portrait) Chase (white cap) Chesbro Cicotte Clarke (portrait) Clarke (with bat) JJ Clarke Cobb (green) Cobb (bat on shoulder) Conroy (fielding) Coveleski Crandall (no cap) Crawford (throwing) Criss George Davis (Chicago) Harry Davis (A's) Delehanty (Washington) Donlin (seated) Donovan (portrait) Doolin Dougherty (portrait) Durham Evers (portrait) Ferris Flick Gibson Gilbert Goode Griffith (portrait) Hahn Hemphill Herzog (New York) Hinchman (Cleveland) Isbell Jacklitsch Jennings (portrait) Johnson (portrait) F. Jones (portrait) F. Jones (hands at hips) Jordan (portrait) Joss (portrait) Keeler (portrait) Keeler (bat) Killian (pitching) Kleinow (bat) Kling Konetchy (glove high) Lajoie (portrait) Lajoie (throwing) Lake (New York) Leach (portrait) Leifield (pitching) Liebhardt Lobert Lumley Magee (portrait) Manning (bat) Marquard (hands at side) Mathewson (portrait) Mathewson (white cap) McGraw (portrait-no cap) McGraw (pointing) McIntyre (Brooklyn) McQuillan (ball in hand) Merkle (portrait) Murphy (throwing) Nicholls (hands on knees) Niles Oldring (fielding) O'Leary (portrait) Overall (portrait) Owen Parent Pastorius Powell Ritchey Rucker (portrait) Schlei (catching) Schmidt (throwing) Seymour (batting) Sheckard (no glove) Shipke F. Smith (Chicago) Spade Stahl (no glove) Steinfeldt (portrait) Stone Stovall (portrait) Sullivan L Tannehill (Chicago) Tenney Tinker (portrait) Tinker (hands on knees) Turner Waddell (portrait) Waddell (throwing) Wagner (bat on left) Wallace Walsh Weimer Doc White (portrait) Wilhelm (hands at chest) Williams Willis (portrait) Wiltse (portrait-no cap) CYoung (portrait) CYoung (bare hand) 350-only Series..................76 subjects Abbott Anderson Atz Batch Beck Bender (trees) Blackburne Bliss Brain Brown (Washington) Burke Burns Bush Campbell Casey Collins (A's) Congalton Cravath Cree Dahlen (Brooklyn) Dineen Joe Doyle (hands over head) Dubuc Dunn (Baltimore) Dunn (Brooklyn) Easterly Egan Elberfeld (portrait-Washington) Fiene (portrait) Fiene (throwing) Flanagan Freeman Fromme Gasper Graham (Boston) Hallman Hannifan Hartsel Hinchman (Toledo) Hoblitzell Hofman Hoffman (Providence) Hulswitt Jackson Kelley Kisinger Kleinow (New York-catching) Knight (bat) Krause (portrait) Kruger Lavender Livingstone McCormick Milligan Myers (fielding) Oakes Oberlin Parent Pfeister (seated) Purtell Quillen Rhoades (arm extended) Scott Smith (Buffalo) F. Smith (white cap) Stanage Stephens Sweeney (Boston) J. Tannehill (Washington) Taylor Thomas Titus White (Buffalo) Wilson Wright Zimmerman 350/460 series..................58 subjects Ames (hands over head) Baker Bender (no trees) Berger Bradley (bat) M. Brown (Chicago) Burch (fielding) Cobb (bat off shoulder) Conroy (bat) Crawford (bat) Harry Davis (A's) Donlin (bat) Doolan (bat) Dougherty (arm in air) Downey (bat) Larry Doyle (bat) Elberfeld (Washington-fielding) Griffith (bat) Jennings (one hand) Jennings (two hands) Johnson (pitching) Jordan (bat) Joss (pitching) Kleinow (Boston) Konetchy (glove low) Lajoie (bat) Lake, St. Louis (no ball) Leach (cap) Leifeld (bat) Magee (bat) Manning (pitching) McIntyre (Brooklyn & Chicago) McQuillan (bat) Mullin (bat) Murphy (bat) Nichols (bat) O'Leary (hands on knees) Overall (yellow sky) Pelty (vertical) Pfeister (throwing) Reulbach (no glove) Rucker (throwing) Seymour (throwing) F. Smith (Chicago & Boston) Snodgrass (catching) Stahl (glove) Steinfeldt (bat) Street (catching) Sweeney (fielding) Tinker (bat off shoulder) Wagner (bat on right) Doc White (Chicago-pitching) Wilhelm (bat) Willetts Willis (throwing) Willis (bat) Wiltse (pitching) CYoung (glove) 460-only Series..................46 subjects Abbaticchio (blue sleeves) Ball (Cleveland) Bell (follow thru) Bergen (catching) Bescher (hands over head) Bridwell (portrait-cap) Camnitz (hands over head) Camnitz (arm at side) Chance (bat) Chase (trophy) Crandall (portrait-cap) Devore Duffy Larry Doyle (portrait) Ford Frill Gandil Geyer Herzog (Boston) Howell (hand at waist) Hummel Lake, St. Louis (ball) Latham Marquard (pitching) McGraw (portrait-cap) McGraw (glove at hip) Merkle (throwing) Meyers (portrait) Murray (portrait) Needham Oldring (batting) Overall (blue sky) Payne Pfeffer Schaefer (Washington) Schlei (portrait) Schlei (bat) Schulte (back view) Seymour (portrait) Sheckard (glove) Smith (Brooklyn) Stovall (bat) Tannehill (Chicago) Tinker (bat on shoulder) Wheat Wiltse (portrait-cap) Six Super-Prints Chance (yellow portrait) Chase (blue portrait) Chase (dark cap) Cobb (red portrait) Evers (Chicago-yellow sky) Mathewson (dark cap) T206 set includes 48 Southern League (SL) subjects, 34 of which were printed with 3 different backs (brown HINDU, OLD MILL, and PIEDMONT 350). And, the other 14 cards were printed with just OLD MILL and PIEDMONT 350 backs. http://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan7...LDMILLx25b.jpg Checklist of the 48 subjects in the SL series is broken down with respect to the cards with HINDU vs. the no HINDU cards........ 34 subjects with brown HINDU, OLD MILL, and PIEDMONT 350 backs Bay Bernhard Breitenstein Carey Coles Cranston Ellam Foster Fritz Greminger Guiheen Helm Hickman Hooker Howard (Savannah) Jordan (Atlanta) Kiernan Lafitte Lipe Manion McCauley Molesworth Mullaney Otey Paige Perdue Persons Reagan Revelle Ryan Shaughnessy Sid Smith (Atlanta) Thornton Violat 14 subjects with only OLD MILL and PIEDMONT 350 backs Bastian Hart (Little Rock) Hart (Montgomery) King Lentz Miller Orth Rockenfeld Seitz Smith (Shreveport) Stark Thebo Westlake White (Houston) TED Z ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- |
Hey Ted
I guess this one doesn't really count? Maybe we should take a poll to see :). It would add another to the list....
http://luckeycards.com/pt206ghostmultioverprint2.jpg |
Leon - I've told you before there is no doubt in my mind that your card is a Brown Old Mill. There are other over print brands but it was a Brown Old Mill first. I believe Ted added it to the Brown Old Mill list.
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I wonder what happened to the rest of that sheet...
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Hello Ted,
FYI, I have a red Chance with an OM back. http://photos.imageevent.com/ltsgall...ize/chance.jpg |
Leon
This OLD MILL thread is only partially complete. Indeed, your Brown OLD MILL (Mullaney) will appear on the confirmed list
when I add the the Brown OLD MILL's on this thread later today. Regards, TED Z |
And speaking of Brown OM's....here's another one that does not appear on your list above ;).
http://photos.imageevent.com/ltsgall...rown_OM_tn.jpg |
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FYI....T206 OLD MILL (Black & Brown) confirmed lists
Leon
Southern League Brown OLD MILL list will be posted shortly. TED Z |
FYI....T206 OLD MILL (Black & Brown) confirmed lists
Listed here are the 34 Southern Leaguer's that are possible with Brown OLD MILL backs.
http://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan7...illfact649.jpg To date, 11 of them that have been confirmed.......... Bay Bernhard....................Brown OLD MILL Breitenstein Carey Coles Cranston Ellam Foster........................Brown OLD MILL Fritz Greminger...................Brown OLD MILL Guiheen Helm..........................Brown OLD MILL Hickman Hooker Howard Jordan Kiernan......................Brown OLD MILL Lafitte Lipe Manion McCauley Molesworth Mullaney....................Brown OLD MILL Otey Paige.........................Brown OLD MILL Perdue Persons Reagan.......................Brown OLD MILL Revelle.......................Brown OLD MILL Ryan Shaughnessy Smith (Atlanta)............Brown OLD MILL Thornton.....................Brown OLD MILL Violat These 14 Southern Leaguer's are NOT expected to be found with Brown OLD MILL backs. Bastian Hart (Little Rock) Hart (Montgomery) King Lentz Miller Orth Rockenfeld Seitz Smith (Shreveport) Stark Thebo Westlake White (Houston TED Z |
FYI....T206 OLD MILL (Black & Brown) confirmed lists
Thanks....srs1a & Tim C. for your new inputs....they are in the listing.
The OLD MILL's are certainly a work in progress. TED Z |
One more for you, Ted
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Camnitz (folded) may have been an oversight - I thought it was on one of your lists before.
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Mike
Thanks for your input. Camnitz is in the tally.
TED Z |
thanks TED..
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FYI....T206 OLD MILL (Black & Brown) confirmed lists
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Ted,
Two more for the black Old Mill list...Ball (NY) and Niles. Steve |
FYI....T206 OLD MILL (Black & Brown) confirmed lists
Thank you Steve for the Ball and Niles inputs. They have been added to the OLD MILL list.
TED Z |
FYI....T206 OLD MILL (Black & Brown) confirmed lists
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To date, there are 293 confirmed T206 cards with the Black OLD MILL back. Including the 48 - Southern Leaguer's with OLD MILL backs....the grand total = 341 cards Abbaticchio (brown sleeves) Abbaticchio (blue sleeves) Abbott Alperman Ames (portrait) Ames (hands above head) Anderson Atz Baker Ball (New York) Ball (Cleveland) Batch Bates Beaumont Beck Bell (pitching) Bender (portrait) Bender (no trees) Bender (trees) Bergen (bat) Bergen (catching) Berger Bescher (arms in air) Birmingham Blackburne Bliss Bowerman Bradley (portrait) Bradley (bat) Brain Bransfield Bresnahan (portrait) Bridwell (no cap) Bridwell (portrait-cap) M. Brown (portrait-red) Burch (fielding) Burke Burns Bush Camnitz (arms folded) Camnitz (arm at side) Camnitz (hands over head) Campbell Casey Chance (portrait-red) Chance (portrait-yellow) Chance (bat) Chase (portrait-pink) Chase (portrait-blue) Chase (white cap) Chase (dark cap) Chase (trophy) Chesbro F. Clarke (portrait) F. Clarke (bat) Clarke (Cleveland) Cobb (portrait-green) Cobb (bat on shoulder) Cobb (portrait-red) Cobb (bat off shoulder) Collins (A's) Congalton Conroy (fielding) Conroy (bat) Covaleski Crandall (no cap) Cravath Crawford (throwing) Crawford (bat) Cree Criss Dahlen (Brooklyn) Harry Davis (A's) George Davis (Chicago) Delehanty (Washington) Devlin Dineen Donlin (seated) Donlin (bat) Donovan (portrait) Dooin Doolan (bat) Dougherty (arm in air) Downey (bat) Joe Doyle (hands over head) Larry Doyle (portrait) Larry Doyle (bat) Dubuc Duffy Dunn (Baltimore) Dunn (Brooklyn) Durham Easterly Egan Elberfeld (Washington-portrait) Elberfeld (Washington-fielding) Evers (portrait) Evers (bat-yellow sky) Ferris Fiene (portrait) Fiene (throwing) Flanagan Flick Ford Frill Freeman Fromme Gandil Gasper Geyer Gibson Gilbert Goode Graham (Boston) Graham (St Louis) Griffith (portrait) Griffith (bat) Hahn Hallman Hannifan Hartsel Hemphill Herzog (New York) Herzog (Boston) Hinchman (Cleveland) Hinchman (Toledo) Hoblitzell Hoffman (Providence) Hoffman (St Louis) Hofman Howell (hand at waist) Hulswitt Hummel Isbell Jacklitsch Jackson Jennings (portrait) Jennings (one hand) Jennings (two hands) Johnson (portrait) Johnson (pitching) Jones (Detroit) F. Jones (hips) F. Jones (portrait) Jordan (portrait) Jordan (bat) Joss (portrait) Joss (pitching) Keeler (portrait) Keeler (bat) Kelley Killian (hands at chest) Kisinger Kleinow (New York-catching) Kleinow (Boston-catching) Kleinow (New York-bat) Kling Knight (bat) Konetchy (glove low) Krause (portrait) Kruger Lajoie (portrait) Lajoie (throwing) Lajoie (bat) Lake (St Louis-ball) Lake (St Louis-no ball) Latham Lavender Leach (portrait) Livingstone Leach (cap) Leifield (bat) Lobert Lumley Magee (portrait) Magee (bat) Manning (bat) Manning (pitching) Marquard (hands/side) Marquard (throwing) Mathewson (white cap) Mathewson (portrait) Mathewson (dark cap) McCormick McGlynn McGraw (portrait-cap) McGraw (pointing) McIntyre (Brooklyn) McIntyre (Brooklyn & Chicago) McQuillan (bat) McQuillan (ball in hand) Merkle (throwing) Meyers Milligan Mullin (bat) Murphy (bat) Murphy (throwing) Murray (portrait) Myers (fielding) Needham Nichols (bat) Nicholls (fielding) Niles Oakes Oberlin Oldring (bat) Oldring (fielding) O'Leary (portrait) O'Leary (hands/knees) Overall (portrait) Overall (yellow sky) Overall (blue sky) Owen Parent Pastorius Payne Pelty (vertical) Pfeffer Pfeister (seated) Pfeister (throwing) Powell (horizontal) Purtell Quillen Reulbach (no glove) Rhoades (arm extended) Rhodes Ritchey Rucker (throwing) Rudolph Schaefer (Washington) Schlei (bat) Schlei (portrait) Schmidt (throwing) Schulte (back view) Scott Seymour (portrait) Seymour (throwing) Sheckard (no glove) F. Smith (Chicago) Smith (Chicago, white cap) Smith (Chicago & Boston) Smith (Brooklyn) Smith (Buffalo) Snodgrass (catching) Spade Stahl (glove) Stanage Steinfeldt (bat) Stephens Stone Stovall (portrait) Stovall (bat) Street (catching) Sullivan Sweeney (Boston) Sweeney (New York) L. Tannehill (Chicago) J. Tannehill (Washington) Tannehill (follow thru) Taylor Tenney Ira Thomas Tinker (hands/knees) Tinker (bat on) Tinker (bat off) Titus Turner Waddell (throwing) Waddell (portrait) Wagner (left shoulder) Wagner (right shoulder) Wallace Walsh Weimer Wheat White (Chicago-portrait) White (Chicago-pitching) White (Buffalo) Wilhelm (bat) Willett Willetts Williams Willis (Pittsburg) Willis (throwing) Willis (bat) Wilson Wright Wiltse (portrait-cap) Wiltse (no cap) Wiltse (pitching) CYoung (portrait) CYoung (no glove) CYoung (glove) Irv Young Zimmerman Updated to add Cobb (bat on shoulder) to this list. TED Z |
FYI....T206 OLD MILL (Black & Brown) confirmed lists
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To date, there are 297 confirmed T206 cards with the Black OLD MILL back. Including the 48 - Southern Leaguer's with OLD MILL backs....the grand total = 345 cards Abbaticchio (brown sleeves) Abbaticchio (blue sleeves) Abbott Alperman Ames (portrait) Ames (hands above head) Anderson Atz Baker Ball (New York) Ball (Cleveland) Batch Bates Beaumont Beck Bell (pitching) Bender (portrait) Bender (no trees) Bender (trees) Bergen (bat) Bergen (catching) Berger Bescher (arms in air) Birmingham Blackburne Bliss Bowerman Bradley (portrait) Bradley (bat) Brain Bransfield Bresnahan (portrait) Bridwell (no cap) Bridwell (portrait-cap) M. Brown (portrait-red) Burch (fielding) Burke Burns Bush Camnitz (arms folded) Camnitz (arm at side) Camnitz (hands over head) Campbell Casey Chance (portrait-red) Chance (portrait-yellow) Chance (bat) Chase (portrait-pink) Chase (portrait-blue) Chase (white cap) Chase (dark cap) Chase (trophy) Chesbro F. Clarke (portrait) F. Clarke (bat) Clarke (Cleveland) Cobb (portrait-green) Cobb (bat on shoulder) Cobb (portrait-red) Cobb (bat off shoulder) Collins (A's) Congalton Conroy (fielding) Conroy (bat) Covaleski Crandall (no cap) Cravath Crawford (throwing) Crawford (bat) Cree Criss Dahlen (Brooklyn) Harry Davis (A's) George Davis (Chicago) Delehanty (Washington) Devlin Dineen Donlin (seated) Donlin (bat) Donovan (portrait) Dooin Doolan (bat) Dougherty (arm in air) Downey (bat) Joe Doyle (hands over head) Larry Doyle (portrait) Larry Doyle (bat) Dubuc Duffy Dunn (Baltimore) Dunn (Brooklyn) Durham Easterly Egan Elberfeld (Washington-portrait) Elberfeld (Washington-fielding) Evers (portrait) Evers (bat-yellow sky) Ferris Fiene (portrait) Fiene (throwing) Flanagan Flick Ford Frill Freeman Fromme Gandil Gasper Geyer Gibson Gilbert Goode Graham (Boston) Graham (St Louis) Griffith (portrait) Griffith (bat) Hahn Hallman Hannifan Hartsel Hemphill Herzog (New York) Herzog (Boston) Hinchman (Cleveland) Hinchman (Toledo) Hoblitzell Hoffman (Providence) Hoffman (St Louis) Hofman Howell (hand at waist) Hulswitt Hummel Isbell Jacklitsch Jackson Jennings (portrait) Jennings (one hand) Jennings (two hands) Johnson (portrait) Johnson (pitching) Jones (Detroit) F. Jones (hips) F. Jones (portrait) Jordan (portrait) Jordan (bat) Joss (portrait) Joss (pitching) Keeler (portrait) Keeler (bat) Kelley Killian (hands at chest) Kisinger Kleinow (New York-catching) Kleinow (Boston-catching) Kleinow (New York-bat) Kling Knight (bat) Konetchy (glove low) Krause (portrait) Kruger Lajoie (portrait) Lajoie (throwing) Lajoie (bat) Lake (St Louis-ball) Lake (St Louis-no ball) Latham Lavender Leach (portrait) Leach (cap) Leifield (bat) Liebhardt Livingstone Lobert Lumley Magee (portrait) Magee (bat) Manning (bat) Manning (pitching) Marquard (hands/side) Marquard (throwing) Mathewson (white cap) Mathewson (portrait) Mathewson (dark cap) McCormick McGlynn McGraw (portrait-cap) McGraw (pointing) McIntyre (Brooklyn) McIntyre (Brooklyn & Chicago) McQuillan (bat) McQuillan (ball in hand) Merkle (throwing) Meyers Milligan Mullin (bat) Murphy (bat) Murphy (throwing) Murray (portrait) Myers (fielding) Needham Nichols (bat) Nicholls (fielding) Niles Oakes Oberlin Oldring (bat) Oldring (fielding) O'Leary (portrait) O'Leary (hands/knees) Overall (portrait) Overall (yellow sky) Overall (blue sky) Owen Parent Pastorius Payne Pelty (vertical) Pfeffer Pfeister (seated) Pfeister (throwing) Powell (horizontal) Purtell Quillen Reulbach (no glove) Rhoades (arm extended) Rhodes Ritchey Rucker (throwing) Rudolph Schaefer (Washington) Schlei (bat) Schlei (portrait) Schmidt (throwing) Schulte (back view) Scott Seymour (portrait) Seymour (throwing) Sheckard (no glove) F. Smith (Chicago) Smith (Chicago, white cap) Smith (Chicago & Boston) Smith (Brooklyn) Smith (Buffalo) Snodgrass (catching) Spade Stahl (glove) Stanage Steinfeldt (bat) Stephens Stone Stovall (portrait) Stovall (bat) Street (catching) Sullivan Sweeney (Boston) Sweeney (New York) L. Tannehill (Chicago) J. Tannehill (Washington) Tannehill (follow thru) Taylor Tenney Ira Thomas Tinker (hands/knees) Tinker (bat on) Tinker (bat off) Titus Turner Waddell (throwing) Waddell (portrait) Wagner (left shoulder) Wagner (right shoulder) Wallace Walsh Weimer Wheat White (Chicago-portrait) White (Chicago-pitching) White (Buffalo) Wilhelm (hands at chest) Wilhelm (bat) Willett Willetts Williams Willis (Pittsburg) Willis (throwing) Willis (bat) Wilson Wright Wiltse (portrait-cap) Wiltse (no cap) Wiltse (pitching) CYoung (portrait) CYoung (no glove) CYoung (glove) Irv Young Zimmerman Updated to add Liebhardt and Wilhelm (hands at chest) to this list. TED Z |
295+48 or 297+48
ted,
Is the updated number here 297+48 SL cards? Or, is the 295 at the top of the list correct? Just want to confirm. |
The tally for the OLD MILL's is 297 + 48.
Thanks for the bringing this to my attention. It has been corrected. TED Z |
Ted,
I have a Modecai Brown throwing with an Old Mill back. |
Thanks Dave
I will add your Brown to the list. TED Z |
FYI....T206 OLD MILL (Black & Brown) confirmed lists
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To date, there are 300 confirmed T206 cards with the Black OLD MILL back. Including the 48 - Southern Leaguer's with OLD MILL backs....the grand total = 348 subjects with OLD MILL backs Abbaticchio (brown sleeves) Abbaticchio (blue sleeves) Abbott Alperman Ames (portrait) Ames (hands above head) Anderson Atz Baker Ball (New York) Ball (Cleveland) Batch Bates Beaumont Beck Bell (pitching) Bender (portrait) Bender (no trees) Bender (trees) Bergen (bat) Bergen (catching) Berger Bescher (arms in air) Birmingham Blackburne Bliss Bowerman Bradley (portrait) Bradley (bat) Brain Bransfield Bresnahan (portrait) Bridwell (no cap) Bridwell (portrait-cap) M. Brown (portrait-red) M. Brown (Chicago) Burch (fielding) Burke Burns Bush Camnitz (arms folded) Camnitz (arm at side) Camnitz (hands over head) Campbell Casey Chance (portrait-red) Chance (portrait-yellow) Chance (bat) Chase (portrait-pink) Chase (portrait-blue) Chase (white cap) Chase (dark cap) Chase (trophy) Chesbro F. Clarke (portrait) F. Clarke (bat) Clarke (Cleveland) Cobb (portrait-green) Cobb (bat on shoulder) Cobb (portrait-red) Cobb (bat off shoulder) Collins (A's) Congalton Conroy (fielding) Conroy (bat) Covaleski Crandall (no cap) Cravath Crawford (throwing) Crawford (bat) Cree Criss Dahlen (Brooklyn) H. Davis (A's) Harry Davis (A's) George Davis (Chicago) Delehanty (Washington) Devlin Dineen Donlin (seated) Donlin (bat) Donovan (portrait) Dooin Doolan (bat) Dougherty (arm in air) Downey (bat) Joe Doyle (hands over head) Larry Doyle (portrait) Larry Doyle (bat) Dubuc Duffy Dunn (Baltimore) Dunn (Brooklyn) Durham Easterly Egan Elberfeld (Washington-portrait) Elberfeld (Washington-fielding) Evers (portrait) Evers (bat-yellow sky) Ferris Fiene (portrait) Fiene (throwing) Flanagan Flick Ford Frill Freeman Fromme Gandil Gasper Geyer Gibson Gilbert Goode Graham (Boston) Graham (St Louis) Griffith (portrait) Griffith (bat) Hahn Hallman Hannifan Hartsel Hemphill Herzog (New York) Herzog (Boston) Hinchman (Cleveland) Hinchman (Toledo) Hoblitzell Hoffman (Providence) Hoffman (St Louis) Hofman Howell (hand at waist) Hulswitt Hummel Isbell Jacklitsch Jackson Jennings (portrait) Jennings (one hand) Jennings (both hands) Johnson (portrait) Johnson (pitching) Jones (Detroit) F. Jones (hips) F. Jones (portrait) Jordan (portrait) Jordan (bat) Joss (portrait) Joss (pitching) Keeler (portrait) Keeler (bat) Kelley Killian (hands at chest) Kisinger Kleinow (New York-catching) Kleinow (Boston-catching) Kleinow (New York-bat) Kling Knight (bat) Konetchy (glove high) Konetchy (glove low) Krause (portrait) Kruger Lajoie (portrait) Lajoie (throwing) Lajoie (bat) Lake (St Louis-ball) Lake (St Louis-no ball) Latham Lavender Leach (portrait) Leach (cap) Leifield (bat) Liebhardt Livingstone Lobert Lumley Magee (portrait) Magee (bat) Manning (bat) Manning (pitching) Marquard (hands/side) Marquard (throwing) Mathewson (white cap) Mathewson (portrait) Mathewson (dark cap) McCormick McGlynn McGraw (portrait-cap) McGraw (pointing) McIntyre (Brooklyn) McIntyre (Brooklyn & Chicago) McQuillan (bat) McQuillan (ball in hand) Merkle (throwing) Meyers Milligan Mullin (bat) Murphy (bat) Murphy (throwing) Murray (portrait) Myers (fielding) Needham Nichols (bat) Nicholls (fielding) Niles Oakes Oberlin Oldring (bat) Oldring (fielding) O'Leary (portrait) O'Leary (hands/knees) Overall (portrait) Overall (yellow sky) Overall (blue sky) Owen Parent Pastorius Payne Pelty (vertical) Pfeffer Pfeister (seated) Pfeister (throwing) Powell (horizontal) Purtell Quillen Reulbach (no glove) Rhoades (arm extended) Rhodes Ritchey Rucker (throwing) Rudolph Schaefer (Washington) Schlei (bat) Schlei (portrait) Schmidt (throwing) Schulte (back view) Scott Seymour (portrait) Seymour (throwing) Sheckard (no glove) F. Smith (Chicago) Smith (Chicago, white cap) Smith (Chicago & Boston) Smith (Brooklyn) Smith (Buffalo) Snodgrass (catching) Spade Stahl (glove) Stanage Steinfeldt (bat) Stephens Stone Stovall (portrait) Stovall (bat) Street (catching) Sullivan Sweeney (Boston) Sweeney (New York) L. Tannehill (Chicago) J. Tannehill (Washington) Tannehill (follow thru) Taylor Tenney Ira Thomas Tinker (hands/knees) Tinker (bat on) Tinker (bat off) Titus Turner Waddell (throwing) Waddell (portrait) Wagner (left shoulder) Wagner (right shoulder) Wallace Walsh Weimer Wheat White (Chicago-portrait) White (Chicago-pitching) White (Buffalo) Wilhelm (hands at chest) Wilhelm (bat) Willett Willetts Williams Willis (Pittsburg) Willis (throwing) Willis (bat) Wilson Wright Wiltse (portrait-cap) Wiltse (no cap) Wiltse (pitching) CYoung (portrait) CYoung (no glove) CYoung (glove) Irv Young Zimmerman Updated to add M. Brown (Chicago) and H. Davis to this list. TED Z |
Which Harry Davis (A's)?
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Hi Ted,
Could you be a bit more specific as to which of the T206 Harry Davis (A's) has been confirmed with the Old Mill back, please? Is it the "Davis on Front" or is it the "H. Davis on Front"? Thanks and Best Regards, Craig (Fronts' images are from the Web) |
Craig
Both are confirmed with OLD MILL. I just added H. Davis to the list which brings the tally to 299.
Thanks for bringing this to my attention. Best regards, TED Z |
Ted, I just picked up White (Houston - SLer) and noticed a lighter back to it. Is this a 'Brown OM' back? Brown or just a lighter Black back?
http://i732.photobucket.com/albums/w...54/oldmill.jpg |
Hi Jon -
It's not Brown. :( The players from the Texas League were not printed with Brown Old Mill backs. These Southern Leaguers can not be found with Brown Old Mill. https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/_U...74544%20PM.jpg |
Tim
I figured as much. Just looked very light or 'brown' compared to my 4 other SL OM cards. Any luck with that Boston BL yet? |
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FYI....T206 black OLD MILL confirmed list....UPDATED
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To date....306 black OLD MILL cards have been confirmed (not including Southern Leaguers). They are listed here as a function of their respective T206 series. 150/350 Series..................120 subjects Abbaticchio (brown sleeves) Alperman Ames (portrait) Ball (New York) Bates Beaumont Bell (hands over head) Bender (portrait) Bergen (bat) Bowerman Bradley (portrait) Bransfield Bridwell (portrait-no cap) Bresnahan (portrait) M. Brown (portrait) Camnitz (arms folded) Chance (red portrait) Chase (pink portrait) Chase (white cap) Chesbro Clarke (portrait) JJ Clarke Cobb (green) Cobb (bat on shoulder) Conroy (fielding) Coveleski Crandall (no cap) Crawford (throwing) Criss George Davis (Chicago) Harry Davis (A's) Delehanty (Washington) Donlin (seated) Donovan (portrait) Doolin Dougherty (portrait) Durham Evers (portrait) Ferris Flick Ganley Gibson Gilbert Goode Griffith (portrait) Hahn Hemphill Herzog (New York) Hinchman (Cleveland) Isbell Jacklitsch Jennings (portrait) Johnson (portrait) F. Jones (portrait) F. Jones (hands at hips) Jordan (portrait) Joss (portrait) Keeler (portrait) Keeler (bat) Killian (pitching) Kleinow (bat) Kling Konetchy (glove high) Lajoie (portrait) Lajoie (throwing) Lake (New York) Leach (portrait) Leifield (pitching) Liebhardt Lobert Lumley Manning (bat) Marquard (hands at side) Mathewson (portrait) Mathewson (white cap) McGraw (portrait-no cap) McGraw (pointing) McIntyre (Brooklyn) McQuillan (ball in hand) Murphy (throwing) Nicholls (hands on knees) Niles Oldring (fielding) O'Leary (portrait) Overall (portrait) Owen Parent Pastorius Powell Ritchey Rucker (portrait) Schlei (catching) Schmidt (throwing) Sheckard (no glove) Shipke F. Smith (Chicago) Spade Stahl (no glove) Steinfeldt (portrait) Stone Stovall (portrait) Sullivan L Tannehill (Chicago) Tenney Tinker (portrait) Tinker (hands on knees) Turner Waddell (portrait) Waddell (throwing) Wagner (bat on left) Wallace Walsh Weimer Doc White (portrait) Wilhelm (hands at chest) Williams Willis (portrait) Wiltse (portrait-no cap) CYoung (portrait) CYoung (bare hand) 350-only Series..................76 subjects Abbott Anderson Atz Batch Beck Bender (trees) Blackburne Bliss Brain Brown (Washington) Burke Burns Bush Campbell Casey Clark Collins (A's) Congalton Cravath Cree Dahlen (Brooklyn) Dineen Joe Doyle (hands over head) Dubuc Dunn (Baltimore) Dunn (Brooklyn) Easterly Egan Elberfeld (portrait-Washington) Fiene (portrait) Fiene (throwing) Flanagan Freeman Fromme Gasper Graham (Boston) Hallman Hannifan Hartsel Hinchman (Toledo) Hoblitzell Hofman Hoffman (Providence) Hulswitt Jackson Kelley Kisinger Kleinow (New York-catching) Knight (bat) Krause (portrait) Kruger Lavender Livingstone McCormick Milligan Oakes Oberlin Parent Pfeister (seated) Purtell Quillen Rhoades (arm extended) Scott Smith (Buffalo) F. Smith (white cap) Stanage Stephens Sweeney (Boston) J. Tannehill (Washington) Taylor Thomas Titus White (Buffalo) Wilson Wright Zimmerman 350/460 series..................58 subjects Ames (hands over head) Baker Bender (no trees) Berger Bradley (bat) M. Brown (Chicago) Burch (fielding) Cobb (bat off shoulder) Conroy (bat) Crawford (bat) Harry Davis (A's) Donlin (bat) Doolan (bat) Dougherty (arm in air) Downey (bat) Larry Doyle (bat) Elberfeld (Washington-fielding) Griffith (bat) Jennings (one hand) Jennings (two hands) Johnson (pitching) Jordan (bat) Joss (pitching) Kleinow (Boston) Konetchy (glove low) Lajoie (bat) Lake, St. Louis (no ball) Leach (cap) Leifeld (bat) Magee (bat) Manning (pitching) McIntyre (Brooklyn & Chicago) McQuillan (bat) Mullin (bat) Murphy (bat) Nichols (bat) O'Leary (hands on knees) Overall (yellow sky) Pelty (vertical) Pfeister (throwing) Reulbach (no glove) Rucker (throwing) Seymour (throwing) F. Smith (Chicago & Boston) Snodgrass (catching) Stahl (glove) Steinfeldt (bat) Street (catching) Sweeney (fielding) Tinker (bat off shoulder) Wagner (bat on right) Doc White (Chicago-pitching) Wilhelm (bat) Willetts Willis (throwing) Willis (bat) Wiltse (pitching) CYoung (glove) 460-only Series..................46 subjects Abbaticchio (blue sleeves) Ball (Cleveland) Bell (follow thru) Bergen (catching) Bescher (hands over head) Bridwell (portrait-cap) Camnitz (hands over head) Camnitz (arm at side) Chance (bat) Chase (trophy) Crandall (portrait-cap) Devore Duffy Larry Doyle (portrait) Ford Frill Gandil Geyer Herzog (Boston) Howell (hand at waist} Hummel Lake, St. Louis (ball) Latham Marquard (pitching) McGraw (portrait-cap) McGraw (glove at hip) Merkle (throwing) Meyers (portrait) Murray (portrait) Needham Oldring (batting) Overall (blue sky) Payne Pfeffer Schaefer (Washington) Schlei (portrait) Schlei (bat) Schulte (back view) Seymour (portrait) Sheckard (glove) Smith (Brooklyn) Stovall (bat) Tannehill (Chicago) Tinker (bat on shoulder) Wheat Wiltse (portrait-cap) Six Super-Prints Chance (yellow portrait) Chase (blue portrait) Chase (dark cap) Cobb (red portrait) Evers (Chicago-yellow sky) Mathewson (dark cap) NOTE...... The Exclusive 12 subjects in the 460-only Series are very RARELY found with the OLD MILL back. http://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan7...460x42x25x.jpg http://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan7...460x42x25x.jpg Including the 48 subjects in the Southern League series....the grand total of Black OLD MILL cards confirmed to date = 354 This survey is a work in progress....any new OLD MILL inputs are greatly appreciated. Thanks, T-Rex TED . |
Hey guys......
A picture is worth 1000 words......so, illustrated here are the 12 tobacco advertisement backs that were printed on the T206 Subjects in the 150/350 Series............
http://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan7...Collage75x.jpghttp://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan7...350extra25.jpg Subsequent Series backs will follow. T-Rex TED . |
Ted--
Just want to Thank You for all the reseach & updating you do to keep your studies as current as possible. You are to be commended for your timeless & unending attention to detail.
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Hi Fred
I appreciate your kind words.
Best regards, ole buddy. TED Z |
350-only Series backs......
A picture is worth 1000 words....so, illustrated here are all 15 tobacco brands that were printed on the T206 Subjects in the 350-only Series............
Included here is the 1910 COUPON back for those of us who consider this 68-card sub-set as part of the T206 family. http://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan7...ubjects75x.jpg Furthermore...... NOTE....the A-B-C-D connection http://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan7.../ABCDxT206.jpg T-Rex TED . |
350/460 Series backs......
A picture is worth 1000 words....so, illustrated here are all 22 tobacco brands that were printed on the T206 Subjects in the 350/460 Series............
460-type backs .................................................. ............. Factory #42 ovpt. ........... Factory #42 http://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan7...series75xx.jpg .................................................. .................................................. ................................... Factory #25 http://i603.photobucket.com/albums/t...ep460factory42http://i1255.photobucket.com/albums/...50_zpsc8c09003 .......................... Factory #42 ........................ 350-type backs http://i1255.photobucket.com/albums/...e350series75x_ http://i1255.photobucket.com/albums/...rfeldDRUMx50b_ T-Rex TED . |
And, the 460-only Series backs......
A picture is worth 1000 words......therefore, illustrated here are all 16 tobacco brands that were printed on the T206 Subjects in the 460-only Series............
..... Factory #25 ..... http://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan7...yTbrandArray50http://i603.photobucket.com/albums/tt113/zanted86/rh .... Factory #30 ....... Factory #42 ........... Factory #42 ..... http://i603.photobucket.com/albums/t...p460factory42..http://i1255.photobucket.com/albums/...T206xLENOXx50_http://i603.photobucket.com/albums/t...haeferUZITx50b ......................... Factory #42 .................... T-Rex TED __________________________________________________ __________________________________________________ LOOKING for this T206 guy to complete my EXCLUSIVE 12 red HINDU sub-set (12 subjects) SHECKARD (glove) . |
Nice work and thanks for sharing Ted. You are a true asset to the hobby.
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Hi Ted.
If you consider the Brown Lenox a separate back, does it show up only in the "460 only" group, or does it appear in other groups as well? |
Hi Sean
So far, the brown LENOX cards that I know of are found on subjects in the 350/460 or 460-only series.
In my opinion, these cards are the result of errors in the printing process. Perhaps, a color blind printer on the late nite shift mistook the brown ink for black ink and cranked-out a sheet (or two) of these :) And, then there is the mysterious "blue OLD MILL" card of Walsh. This T206 MONSTER never fails to surprise us. TED Z |
Considering how dark the brown Lenox are (compared to Hindu and Old Mill), perhaps a printer mixed the brown ink with the black ink. :confused:
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FYI....T206 OLD MILL (Black & Brown) confirmed lists
Thanks Donnie......Cicotte has been added to the list.
http://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan7...OLDMILLx50.jpg.http://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan7...seblue50xb.jpg.http://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan7...aseblue50x.jpg To date....310 black OLD MILL Major League subjects have been confirmed. They are listed here as a function of their respective T206 series. 150/350 Series..................124 subjects Abbaticchio (brown sleeves) Alperman Ames (portrait) Ball (New York) Bates Beaumont Bell (hands over head) Bender (portrait) Bergen (bat) Bowerman Bradley (portrait) Bransfield Bridwell (portrait-no cap) Bresnahan (portrait) M. Brown (portrait) Camnitz (arms folded) Chance (red portrait) Chase (pink portrait) Chase (white cap) Chesbro Cicotte Clarke (portrait) JJ Clarke Cobb (green) Cobb (bat on shoulder) Conroy (fielding) Coveleski Crandall (no cap) Crawford (throwing) Criss George Davis (Chicago) Harry Davis (A's) Delehanty (Washington) Devlin Donlin (seated) Donovan (portrait) Doolin Dougherty (portrait) Durham Evers (portrait) Ferris Flick Ganley Gibson Gilbert Goode Griffith (portrait) Hahn Hemphill Herzog (New York) Hinchman (Cleveland) Isbell Jacklitsch Jennings (portrait) Johnson (portrait) F. Jones (portrait) F. Jones (hands at hips) Jordan (portrait) Joss (portrait) Keeler (portrait) Keeler (bat) Killian (pitching) Kleinow (bat) Kling Konetchy (glove high) Lajoie (portrait) Lajoie (throwing) Lake (New York) Leach (portrait) Leifield (pitching) Liebhardt Lobert Lumley Magee (portrait) Manning (bat) Marquard (hands at side) Mathewson (portrait) Mathewson (white cap) McGraw (portrait-no cap) McGraw (pointing) McIntyre (Brooklyn) McQuillan (ball in hand) Merkle (portrait) Murphy (throwing) Nicholls (hands on knees) Niles Oldring (fielding) O'Leary (portrait) Overall (portrait) Owen Parent Pastorius Powell Ritchey Rucker (portrait) Schlei (catching) Schmidt (throwing) Sheckard (no glove) Shipke F. Smith (Chicago) Spade Stahl (no glove) Steinfeldt (portrait) Stone Stovall (portrait) Sullivan L Tannehill (Chicago) Tenney Tinker (portrait) Tinker (hands on knees) Turner Waddell (portrait) Waddell (throwing) Wagner (bat on left) Wallace Walsh Weimer Doc White (portrait) Wilhelm (hands at chest) Williams Willis (portrait) Wiltse (portrait-no cap) CYoung (portrait) CYoung (bare hand) 350-only Series..................76 subjects Abbott Anderson Atz Batch Beck Bender (trees) Blackburne Bliss Brain Brown (Washington) Burke Burns Bush Campbell Casey Clark Collins (A's) Congalton Cravath Cree Dahlen (Brooklyn) Dineen Joe Doyle (hands over head) Dubuc Dunn (Baltimore) Dunn (Brooklyn) Easterly Egan Elberfeld (portrait-Washington) Fiene (portrait) Fiene (throwing) Flanagan Freeman Fromme Gasper Graham (Boston) Hallman Hannifan Hartsel Hinchman (Toledo) Hoblitzell Hofman Hoffman (Providence) Hulswitt Jackson Kelley Kisinger Kleinow (New York-catching) Knight (bat) Krause (portrait) Kruger Lavender Livingstone McCormick Milligan Oakes Oberlin Parent Pfeister (seated) Purtell Quillen Rhoades (arm extended) Scott Smith (Buffalo) F. Smith (white cap) Stanage Stephens Sweeney (Boston) J. Tannehill (Washington) Taylor Thomas Titus White (Buffalo) Wilson Wright Zimmerman 350/460 series..................58 subjects Ames (hands over head) Baker Bender (no trees) Berger Bradley (bat) M. Brown (Chicago) Burch (fielding) Cobb (bat off shoulder) Conroy (bat) Crawford (bat) Harry Davis (A's) Donlin (bat) Doolan (bat) Dougherty (arm in air) Downey (bat) Larry Doyle (bat) Elberfeld (Washington-fielding) Griffith (bat) Jennings (one hand) Jennings (two hands) Johnson (pitching) Jordan (bat) Joss (pitching) Kleinow (Boston) Konetchy (glove low) Lajoie (bat) Lake, St. Louis (no ball) Leach (cap) Leifeld (bat) Magee (bat) Manning (pitching) McIntyre (Brooklyn & Chicago) McQuillan (bat) Mullin (bat) Murphy (bat) Nichols (bat) O'Leary (hands on knees) Overall (yellow sky) Pelty (vertical) Pfeister (throwing) Reulbach (no glove) Rucker (throwing) Seymour (throwing) F. Smith (Chicago & Boston) Snodgrass (catching) Stahl (glove) Steinfeldt (bat) Street (catching) Sweeney (fielding) Tinker (bat off shoulder) Wagner (bat on right) Doc White (Chicago-pitching) Wilhelm (bat) Willetts Willis (throwing) Willis (bat) Wiltse (pitching) CYoung (glove) 460-only Series..................46 subjects Abbaticchio (blue sleeves) Ball (Cleveland) Bell (follow thru) Bergen (catching) Bescher (hands over head) Bridwell (portrait-cap) Camnitz (hands over head) Camnitz (arm at side) Chance (bat) Chase (trophy) Crandall (portrait-cap) Devore Duffy Larry Doyle (portrait) Ford Frill Gandil Geyer Herzog (Boston) Howell (hand at waist} Hummel Lake, St. Louis (ball) Latham Marquard (pitching) McGraw (portrait-cap) McGraw (glove at hip) Merkle (throwing) Meyers (portrait) Murray (portrait) Needham Oldring (batting) Overall (blue sky) Payne Pfeffer Schaefer (Washington) Schlei (portrait) Schlei (bat) Schulte (back view) Seymour (portrait) Sheckard (glove) Smith (Brooklyn) Stovall (bat) Tannehill (Chicago) Tinker (bat on shoulder) Wheat Wiltse (portrait-cap) Six Super-Prints Chance (yellow portrait) Chase (blue portrait) Chase (dark cap) Cobb (red portrait) Evers (Chicago-yellow sky) Mathewson (dark cap) NOTE...... The Exclusive 12 subjects in the 460-only Series are very RARELY found with the OLD MILL back. http://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan7...460x42x25x.jpg http://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan7...460x42x25x.jpg Including the 48 subjects in the Southern League series....the grand total of Black OLD MILL cards confirmed to date = 357 This survey is a work in progress....any new OLD MILL inputs are greatly appreciated. Thanks, TED Z . |
About your Old Mill list
Ted, are there any differences between your checklist and the one on T206resource?
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Just noticed that you have Charlie Rhodes listed as confirmed on the first 4 lists but he was taken off once they were divided by series. Has he been confirmed with an old mill back?
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I believe that Charlie Rhodes/Old Mill is not a possibility.
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Hi Travis
I checked my records....my original OLD MILL lists from 5 years ago included Rhodes by mistake. Apparently, I mistook Rhodes for Rhoades. And, this was corrected 2 years ago when I listed the OLD MILL cards as a function of their T206 series. TED Z . |
Bernhard Brown Old Mill (Mullaney's Sheet companion)
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Bernhard Brown Old Mill - Mullaney's Sheet companion- (This was sold recently by board member)
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