I'm no expert
 

i'm not an expert, but i have a damned hard time trying to figure out what a trimmed card is. many times i see a card slabbed by sgc, beckett, etc with a number, then the card gets to psa then is deemed trimmed, i mean what is the difference? as far as i'm concerned, a trimmed card is a trimmed card no matter who grades it, psa,scg, bvg, bgs,cia!! maybe i'm looking at this the wrong way. now i know i'm not the only one this has happened to, i'm just trying to find a why!
http://cgi.ebay.com/1954-Topps-187-H...item2c546bac96

Hi Larry-

I checked the link you provided,and to avoid that drama,I will say "no comment" :D

But,here's a thought.If you were a major TPG,and someone sent in a very high grade card graded by your main rival ( another TPG who probably takes away alot of buisness from you),,,what better way to discredit your top competition than to reject something they called a "mint" card as being trimmed?

Not saying this is the case-it's just something I wonder about.

Sincerely,Clayton

Greg, is not having much luck lately with the grading services.

Hey Larry,

Also check out post #108 in this thread for a little more background:

http://www.net54baseball.com/showthr...122281&page=11

Rob

Does SGC grade windmills?

Not if they've been altered :)

This was originally in an SGC 88 holder:

Maybe it's just the angle, but that upper right arm looks short!


;)



Edited to add an image.

Why did you allow PSA to crack the holder? SGC has a practice where if they don't immediately think the card will cross, they won't crack the original slab. I've sent in cards I wanted to cross that in their opinion would not meet the grade. So they didn't crack the original slab and reholder.

I should have disclosed that information...you are right on the money!!

Nothing gets by you Jim...

My kids are 20 and 16. I'm scared to death of the stuff that gets by me!

I was 20 about 8 years ago, and I would be scared too if I were you!

At one time I believe that it had to do with the angle of the cut and such, but that was before I quit believing that grading companies had any particular integrity or any more knowledge than any number of collectors I know. One day, when I choose to sell, I may be force to change my view, but it is not today.

Same goes w/ PSA, they didn't crack the card out, the submitter did and submitted it for grading in raw form.