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Matt 01-22-2010 06:50 AM

Jewish
 
An item listed on eBay currently has the title "1939 R303-B GOUDEY PREMIUM HANK GREENBERG - JEWISH"

Is the thought that people looking to buy cards of Jewish baseball players won't know Greenberg was Jewish or that people go into the cards category and do a title search for the word "Jewish?"

D. Bergin 01-22-2010 07:12 AM

It's so the searches will pick it up.

Probably useless for somebody like Greenberg. Helps a lot with the bidding on the more obscure athletes, at least with what I deal with in boxing.

Ladder7 01-22-2010 07:12 AM

Definitely a shallow seller... Labels like that would cause me to look elsewhere for that Hank.

Leon 01-22-2010 07:13 AM

Personally
 
Personally I do my searches on "Mort" as all people named Mort are presumed Jewish. At least that is what I read somewhere :o.

Abravefan11 01-22-2010 07:25 AM

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Originally Posted by Ladder7 (Post 777057)
Definitely a shallow seller...

There are a lot of collectors of Jewish players and adding the word "Jewish" to make sure you capture all potential buyers in the search function I don't see as shallow by the seller.

barrysloate 01-22-2010 07:35 AM

There is also a perception that well-to-do Jewish collectors will pay a premium for Jewish players.

Robextend 01-22-2010 07:35 AM

Being Jewish myself, I don't have a problem with it. With that said, I agree with a previous post that it is probably useless for someone to add that to a Hank Greenberg listing.

For some reason this makes me think of the Seinfeld episode when Jerry goes out with a woman that shortened her name from Donna Changstein to Donna Chang and there was a lot of confusion!! Don't ask me why, but it does...

drdduet 01-22-2010 07:52 AM

it makes me think of the anti-dentite episode...

Brian-Chidester 01-22-2010 07:53 AM

Doesn't bother me at all. I'm not Jewish, but my next book is about a Jewish songwriter, and a lot of the archives that I have frequented celebrate being Jewish to the highest degree. Our friends in L.A. had a little get together after Passover last year, and being the counter-culture types, they showed me a magazine called "Heeb," which was really cool. Great review of a Fred Katz CD, one of the wildest beatnik jazz artists of the '50s.

Anyway, "Heeb" kind of reminded me of that women's magazine "Bust." In both cases, they are taking a word that might have been used in a pajorative sense in the past, and sort of celebrating it. Obviously wouldn't work for every word of that type, but in those cases, the irony made me laugh.

Robextend 01-22-2010 07:54 AM

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Originally Posted by drdduet (Post 777067)
it makes me think of the anti-dentite episode...

Next thing you know, you'll be saying they should have their own schools....

barrysloate 01-22-2010 08:00 AM

They do have their own schools!

Matt 01-22-2010 08:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by barrysloate (Post 777061)
There is also a perception that well-to-do Jewish collectors will pay a premium for Jewish players.

I think there certainly are collectors who only collect Jewish players - I'm pretty certain they know Hank "Mort" Greenberg was Jewish.

Jim VB 01-22-2010 08:04 AM

I think all auctions on Grandslambids.com should be noted with the nationality/religion of origin.

Get right on that, OK? (LOL)

barrysloate 01-22-2010 08:06 AM

Matt- as I've said before my father's name is Morton...and he is Jewish.

Matt 01-22-2010 08:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jim VB (Post 777072)
I think all auctions on Grandslambids.com should be noted with the nationality/religion of origin.

Jim - we've got a forum for GrandSlamBids suggestions - go for it. ;)

BillyCoxDodgers3B 01-22-2010 08:20 AM

The problem lies in the fact that "Greenberg" isn't exactly the most Jewish-sounding name. Kinda WASPy. I for one was educated by the seller's listing title. Thank you, kind stranger!

Jewish-collector 01-22-2010 08:37 AM

I agree with Tim. There are a lot of collectors of Jewish players, so adding the word "Jewish" so the seller finds all the buyers. It's just good marketing. Same as a certain auction house having hot women greet you as you enter the National. :D

P.S.

Unfortunately for the seller, I'm a poor Jew.

Orioles1954 01-22-2010 08:50 AM

As a Mormon/LDS collector, I always appreciate it when a seller adds that to the title. I pretty much know who every Mormon player in history is, but I don't see how it should offend a "niche" collector.

bijoem 01-22-2010 08:59 AM

is that listing actually offensive?

I must be out of touch.

Matt 01-22-2010 09:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bijoem (Post 777088)
is that listing actually offensive?

I must be out of touch.

I don't think anyone found it offensive; just gratuitous.

ullmandds 01-22-2010 09:02 AM

My collection focus's on players who are latvian orthodox...boy are these guys tough to find!

Orioles1954 01-22-2010 09:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ullmandds (Post 777090)
My collection focus's on players who are latvian orthodox...boy are these guys tough to find!

What about the guy from "Taxi" :)

Rob D. 01-22-2010 09:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ullmandds (Post 777090)
My collection focus's on players who are latvian orthodox...boy are these guys tough to find!

Expect to pay big money for the Kavorka's rookie card.

barrysloate 01-22-2010 09:12 AM

George, what is it about Latvian Orthodox that you find most appealing?

George: I like the hats...

Robextend 01-22-2010 09:14 AM

Did you say fodder?

BillyCoxDodgers3B 01-22-2010 09:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by barrysloate (Post 777097)
George, what is it about Latvian Orthodox that you find most appealing?

George: I like the hats...

Vost, yes...

Jim VB 01-22-2010 09:21 AM

Why not? What do I care?

Jim VB 01-22-2010 09:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Orioles1954 (Post 777092)
What about the guy from "Taxi" :)

I don't believe Latka Gravas was either Latvian or Orthodox. (But a great character, nonetheless!)

Orioles1954 01-22-2010 09:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jim VB (Post 777105)
I don't believe Latka Gravas was either Latvian or Orthodox. (But a great character, nonetheless!)

Dang! I thought I nailed it! By the way, which of the great cities in North Texas do you reside?

barrysloate 01-22-2010 09:27 AM

Latka was of no known origin, and spoke no recognizable language. But he was funny.

barrysloate 01-22-2010 09:31 AM

Best line from that episode:

Frank Costanza: Latvian Orthodox! Aren't those the people that go around mutilating squirrels?

Anthony S. 01-22-2010 11:51 AM

Little confused here. Should I not point out that Leslie Uggams is African-American in the title line of my T206 listings on Ebay?

Incidentally, if you subscribe to Netflix, The documentary, "The Life and Times of Hank Greenberg" (1998) is available for instant viewing. Good stuff.

bigtrain 01-22-2010 11:51 AM

Latka actually claimed to be from Caspiar, a small island in the Caspian Sea that sank.

Anthony S. 01-22-2010 11:53 AM

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Originally Posted by bigtrain (Post 777141)
Latka actually claimed to be from Caspiar, a small island in the Caspian Sea that sank.

Thank you very much.

barrysloate 01-22-2010 12:23 PM

Now I would like to do another imitation...of the Elvis Presley.

BillyCoxDodgers3B 01-22-2010 01:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Anthony S. (Post 777140)
Little confused here. Should I not point out that Leslie Uggams is African-American in the title line of my T206 listings on Ebay?

Not only should you, I demand it! Doing so is your sworn duty as a patriotic American. Combining it with "L@@K!!!" will fetch you extra brownie points.


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