O/T - Brace Yourself Red Sox Fans (although no surprise)
 

I'm a Yankees fan and I really don't care to have this whole thing brought up again.

As a fan of baseball, I wish they would just make the whole list public, let the dust settle, and move on. This 'one-name-at-a-time' thing is just going to drag on forever.

Im a Sox fan and love the Big Papi... However, this must keep him from ever being enshrined. Along with the rest of 'em.

I'm a Yankee fan and im glad these two names came out. Becuase for the past years red sox fans never thought their team had any user, well you were wrong. Also Ortiz would have never been in the hall of fame.

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2007*

Im a Yankees fan, and yeah, for some people I know who have harassed bout Giambi, A Rod, etc, this is a little payback. But, I concur with the above poster too. Im sick of it, and just want the season to move along. Its a different era from the ones a lot of us on here are interested in, especially collecting wise. It probably won't ever change, someone will always try and get an edge now, and I think we just need to live with it.

Lets just have the whole list of the 103 names, not 1 player at a time every month or 2

If they don't release the entire list, this will go on forever and baseball takes a hit every time someone is outed.

Release the list and get it over with!!!

Tim

Exactly. Let's just get it over with.

~~~~!!!!BIG PAPI UPDATE!!!!~~~~

He just slammed a three run shot to take the lead over the A's.

:)

If your concern is players themselves being turned against PEDSs, a bit of public sweating it out, paranoia and constant fear of inevitable exposure and stain is a useful device. There's a reason why driving safety class shows film of ugly car wrecks-- it helps convince students to drive safer. A photo of a Lamborghini parked in front of the Ritz Carlton doesn't have the same effect..

Updated to reflect use of PEDs.

This just in, a photo of the "Big Papi" prior to 2003

[IMG]<a href="http://s189.photobucket.com/albums/z192/HiNeighbor_2007/?action=view&current=mimmie.jpg" target="_blank"><img src="http://i189.photobucket.com/albums/z192/HiNeighbor_2007/mimmie.jpg" border="0" alt="Mimmie Burke"></a>[/IMG]

Lot's of mixed emotions tonight. Let's just say I feel like I've been screwed over.

Nuf Ced

He did say he was "surprised" he tested positive, so as a baseball fan that makes me feel better.

sorry double post

sorry double post

The hypocrisy of these guys is overwhelming. Palmeiro, Sosa, McGwire, Clemens, Bonds, Ortiz, Manny, ad nauseum. My favorite is Ortiz saying ANYONE shown to have tested positive should be suspended for a year, no ifs ands or buts. Oh, wait a minute, unless you are the popular Big Papi and play for the beloved Red Sox. Then you get the pass. Sheesh....

Don't forget
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2006*
2005*
2003*
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and so on.......

It is now a sad part of the games history.

Can't say I'm surprised...or care. I still love the game and I have a feeling that you do to.