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Yankeefan51 07-17-2009 05:01 AM

Striking out again at Goodwin
 
Like most other advanced collectors, auctions have generally been the best source of acquisitions for us.

We have tracked our auction batting average (exclusive of e bay) on cards that sold for $1000 or more over the past 5 years. Whilst our overall average was just about .350 our batting average with Goodwin..080 (2 for 25) over the past 3 years.

In last night's auction we bid aggressively on three ultra high e type card lots and finally went to sleep after 2:30 PM. Clearly we were competing against someone who was determined to win at any price.

We were wondering which auction houses have proved most productive for you and which ones are the most difficult to win.

Bruce Dorskind
America's Toughest Want List

bdorskind@dorskindgroup.com

barrysloate 07-17-2009 05:29 AM

Bruce- The cards you go after are also being pursued by the set registry crowd, and you know the perils of going against them. If you bid on medium grade cards, say in the range of Excellent condition, you would probably find prices quite reasonable.

cyseymour 07-17-2009 05:48 AM

I imagine you were going after the Konetchy and Dooin... very nice cards. That's the thing about going against the set registry folks - whether you win is totally dependant upon whether those people show, because they will pay almost anything (then again, that can make the cards a very good investment).

Me, I came home with this:

http://i626.photobucket.com/albums/t...nWardFront.jpg

oldjudge 07-17-2009 05:59 AM

I managed to get one; first Goodwin win in a while

http://www.goodwinandco.com/LotDetail.aspx?lotid=11014

Matt 07-17-2009 06:23 AM

I''m having a hard time understanding the prices realized on some of the "hand cut" E95s. $5k for a Wagner, $7k for a Cobb?

Bill Stone 07-17-2009 06:28 AM

I was impressed with the prices for the two T211 Red Sun cards. $910.63 and $1,002.28 seemed to be very strong. Is this series especially popular now?

autograf 07-17-2009 06:34 AM

Good to see the we's and whilst's over here Bruce.....we were concerned about you! Now, get Jim Crandall registered..............

Don't typically bid in Goodwin's auctions but I find REA's auctions to be particularly difficult over the years. I almost always win SOMETHING but on the really nice BB stuff when I was bidding on it, REA proved more difficult than Mastro or Hunt or Lelands. Rob runs a top notch auction and gets tons of bids. Don't think anything untoward, just difficult to top some bidders on some lots.

philliesphan 07-17-2009 06:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Yankeefan51 (Post 736666)
In last night's auction we bid aggressively on three ultra high e type card lots and finally went to sleep after 2:30 PM.
bdorskind@dorskindgroup.com

I think most of the bidding actually happened in the fifteen hours after 2:30 p.m., but it's nice to be holding top bids on the afternoon of the auction.

From my neck of the woods, I was surprised at the prices on the three Allegheny's. I picked up two of them, for less combined than I paid for the other one in my collection.

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cfc1909 07-17-2009 08:29 AM

Matt
that Wagner will be in a PSA 6 holder in a future auction..:mad:

Peter_Spaeth 07-17-2009 09:00 AM

The 52 Topps Mantle SGC 84 sold for exactly what it sold for in February. I guess that means the consignor took a big hit given the buyer's premium, ouch.

February:
http://www.goodwinandco.com/LotDetail2.aspx?lotid=9590

July:
http://www.goodwinandco.com/LotDetail.aspx?lotid=11624

benjulmag 07-17-2009 09:46 AM

A PSA 8 N28 Comisky realizes $31K while a PSA 8 N28 Anson realizes $10K. Are you kidding?! Is this simply registry madness? Oh, and N28 Kelly, Clarkson, Keefe and Ward, all PSA 8's too, each go for about $5K.

bcbgcbrcb 07-17-2009 09:50 AM

Nice pick-up, Jay. I was surprised to see that card not receive any bids for the final week plus extended bidding time during the auction. I think you got a pretty good deal on it.

oldjudge 07-17-2009 09:53 AM

Corey-Didn't the whole N28 set in approx PSA8 go for under $25K in the live Mastro auction last year?

Sorry--It was SGC graded and went for $30K. The grades on the baseball players went to SGC86.

oldjudge 07-17-2009 09:59 AM

Jay
 
Oh, welcome back Bruce

E93 07-17-2009 10:11 AM

Picked up this one:

<a href='http://img33.imageshack.us/i/e102matty.jpg/'><img src='http://img33.imageshack.us/img33/7882/e102matty.jpg' border='0' alt='Image Hosted by ImageShack.us'/></a><br/>

asoriano 07-17-2009 10:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by benjulmag (Post 736712)
A PSA 8 N28 Comisky realizes $31K while a PSA 8 N28 Anson realizes $10K. Are you kidding?! Is this simply registry madness? Oh, and N28 Kelly, Clarkson, Keefe and Ward, all PSA 8's too, each go for about $5K.


I had the same thought regarding the N28 Comiskey. According to the population report, it is tied for the highest graded.

It must be a registry thing.

Matt 07-17-2009 10:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by E93 (Post 736718)
Picked up this one:

Congrats Jim - I love the colors on the horizontal caramel Matty pose.

tbob 07-17-2009 10:28 AM

Barry is absolutely right on the money. The mid-grade cards and authentic cards were extremely reasonable. The very nice E90-1 Peaches Graham I won in an authentic holder went for far less than they sell for on ebay. :D

Matt 07-17-2009 10:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tbob (Post 736723)
Barry is absolutely right on the money. The mid-grade cards and authentic cards were extremely reasonable.

did you see the prices realized for the authentic E95s?

wolterse 07-17-2009 10:42 AM

Goodwin
 
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I had a great night with Goodwin - the only card I lost was the n172 Hellman. Congrats to whomever picked that one up. Here are my other pickups from last night (went to bed at 2:30 and woke up happy).

I was pretty satisfied with the overall value. I feel like I paid fair market on each of these (and actually below on a couple as well).

The Tinker includes the Evers and Chance combo...couldn't post b/c of 5 pic limit.

Matt 07-17-2009 10:57 AM

Wow Erich - congrats!

PhilNap 07-17-2009 10:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Yankeefan51 (Post 736666)
In last night's auction we bid aggressively on three ultra high e type card lots and finally went to sleep after 2:30 PM. Clearly we were competing against someone who was determined to win at any price.

Next time maybe you guys should sleep in shifts.

Al C.risafulli 07-18-2009 12:17 PM

Quote:

Next time maybe you guys should sleep in shifts.
LOL

-Al

oldjudge 07-18-2009 01:36 PM

Just a general comment--Bill Goodwin is a true gentleman who runs a great auction. In these times with questions surrounding some other auction houses it is great for the hobby to have people like Bill.

cyseymour 07-18-2009 04:27 PM

I put in a max bid for three increments higher so he obviously doesn't shill. Was also surprised at the n28 prices, btw. What happened?

three25hits 07-18-2009 04:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Yankeefan51 (Post 736666)
Whilst our overall average was just about .350 our batting average with Goodwin..080 (2 for 25) over the past 3 years.


If you want to run with the big boys, you gotta bring it.

calvindog 07-18-2009 05:09 PM

This is a funny thread, truly. Too bad we don't have members hooked up to polygraph machines when they post.

Leon 07-18-2009 05:11 PM

amazing
 
I will just leave this thread at "amazing"...on so many different levels.

slidekellyslide 07-18-2009 05:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by calvindog (Post 736945)
This is a funny thread, truly. Too bad we don't have members hooked up to polygraph machines when they post.

I take it from this quote that we are not to trust Bill Goodwin's auctions? :confused:

Jim VB 07-18-2009 06:29 PM

Dan,

Apparently you missed the message. (It was on another thread, but that's no excuse!)


"For than 20 years- Trust no one-double check everyone has been our mantra"

cyseymour 07-18-2009 06:35 PM

Well if you want to know what I think happened with the n28's, over the winter everyone was rushing into high grade prewar due to the economic panic. N28 psa 8's and t206 9's were going for record prices. When the recovery took hold, those bidders dropped out. Just my two cents. The Comisky was a set registry battle for sure.

Peter_Spaeth 07-18-2009 06:37 PM

What recovery? :confused:

cyseymour 07-18-2009 06:42 PM

The belief in there being a recovery:)


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