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1949 Leaf BB set....show us your cards
Posted By: <b>Ted Zanidakis</b><p>Early in the Spring of '49 Leaf Gum of Chicago issued their 1st series of 49 cards. As a 10 year old kid, I was fascinated by them.<br />Babe Ruth, Joe DiMaggio, Ted Williams, Stan Musial, Jackie Robinson, Honus Wagner....WOW ! ! We couldn't get enough of them.<br /><br />But, before Spring of '49 was over, the Leaf's were gone in our neighborhood stores....replaced by the new 1949 Bowman packs.<br /><br /><img src="http://www.freephotoserver.com/v001/tedzan/baberuth49.jpg"><br /><br /><img src="http://www.freephotoserver.com/v001/tedzan/leafwagner.jpg"><br /><br /><br /><br />2nd Series cards....Short Prints....these are the toughest post-war cards (next to the 1949 Bowman PCL cards)<br /><br /><img src="http://www.freephotoserver.com/v001/tedzan/paige2.jpg"><br /><br /><img src="http://www.freephotoserver.com/v001/tedzan/paigeb.jpg"><br /><br /><br /><br />Strange printing errors<br /><br /><img src="http://www.freephotoserver.com/v001/tedzan/willjohnson.jpg"><br /><br />Show and Tell us your 1949 LEAF BB cards.......<br /><br /><br />TED Z
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1949 Leaf BB set....show us your cards
Posted By: <b>cmoking</b><p>I only have two 49 Leafs, a Ruth and this Kluszewski. <br />No story to tell, I bought it off ebay a few months back. I just thought it looked like a nice card.<br /><br /><br /><img src="http://www.network54.com/Realm/tmp/1186953004.JPG">
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1949 Leaf BB set....show us your cards
Posted By: <b>JimCrandell</b><p>King,<br /><br />Nice Klu--thats a pretty strong 84.<br /><br />Jim
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1949 Leaf BB set....show us your cards
Posted By: <b>Ted Zanidakis</b><p>Great to see your post.....missed you.<br /><br />Show us your Ruth......<br /><br />All the kids in my neighborhood, in Hilside (NJ), valued our Leaf Ruth cards. We didn't flip them.....scale them.....or <br />attach them to our spokes on our bike wheels (as we did most other cards).<br /><br />The memory of him passing away was still quite fresh in our minds, just 7 months before we saw his Leaf card. This<br />"reverence" for his Leaf card must of occured with many other kids, as many Ruth cards are usually found in Ex, or <br />better condition. And, certainly more so than the other 97 cards in this set.<br /><br />TED Z
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1949 Leaf BB set....show us your cards
Posted By: <b>Phil Garry</b><p><img src="http://i150.photobucket.com/albums/s120/bcbgcbrcb/DobyLarry-1.jpg">
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1949 Leaf BB set....show us your cards
Posted By: <b>RayB</b><p>Ted,<br />Great to participate in this one! The color variations abound!<br />RayB<br /><br /><img src="http://www.network54.com/Realm/tmp/1186959624.JPG">
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1949 Leaf BB set....show us your cards
Posted By: <b>cmoking</b><p><img src="http://www.network54.com/Realm/tmp/1186960571.JPG">
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1949 Leaf BB set....show us your cards
Posted By: <b>Jeff Lichtman</b><p>King, spectacular Ruth.<br /><br />Ted -- are those the actual cards you collected as a kid?
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1949 Leaf BB set....show us your cards
Posted By: <b>JimCrandell</b><p>King,<br /><br />Why is that just a 6?<br /><br />Jim
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1949 Leaf BB set....show us your cards
Posted By: <b>Ted Zanidakis</b><p>The Ruth and the Wagner I acquired from Frank Nagy in the early 1980's. I put together a 2nd set back then in Ex to ExMt<br /> condition getting most of the cards from Frank. He also had many of the 2nd series Short Prints. Michigan was one of the 4<br /> regions they were limited to....Boston, Illinois, and Ohio are the other 3 regions. Kids in the NJ & NY area never saw the SP's.<br /><br />Anyhow, I still have my original Leaf's from 58 years ago, perhaps I'll post some of them here. They were really "loved"....and<br /> flipped....and scaled. My Joe DiMaggio was my lucky card, as I knocked down a lot of "leaners" with his card, which would win<br /> everybody's cards in front of our stoop.<br /><br />TED Z
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1949 Leaf BB set....show us your cards
Posted By: <b>Ted Zanidakis</b><p>It's obvious....look at the lower right corner. Nevertheless, it is a beautiful card. The registration on it is perfect.<br />I have seen a lot of these Leaf's with poor registration that get high grades just because the corners are sharp.<br />In my opinion the aesthetics of these cards should be considered....not just the corners.<br /><br />T-Rex TED
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1949 Leaf BB set....show us your cards
Posted By: <b>cmoking</b><p>Jim, the corners look better in the scan than in person. I'd say its a nice 6 as far as corners are concerned.<br /><br />Ted wrote: "The registration on it is perfect. I have seen a lot of these Leaf's with poor registration that get high grades just because the corners are sharp.In my opinion the aesthetics of these cards should be considered....not just the corners."<br /><br />I agree completely. When I was shopping for a Leaf Ruth, I saw a bunch of 8s, but many of them were blurry or unfocused, very distracting. It didn't make sense to me to pay much more for a card I didn't want to look at.<br /><br />Ted, nice stories. I was looking forward to your 49 Leaf posts, pics and stories when Leon started this post-war forum.
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1949 Leaf BB set....show us your cards
Posted By: <b>Ted Zanidakis</b><p>Here is an example of a 1949 Leaf 2nd series (SP) card with a wrong back. These printing errors are not that rare as some<br /> might think, given they appear to exist only on SP cards. I have never seen this flaw on 1st series cards.<br /><br />If anyone has seen this printing flaw on 1st series cards, please tell us....or better yet show us the card ?<br /><br />TED Z<br /><br /><img src="http://www.freephotoserver.com/v001/tedzan/sgordon.jpg"><br /><br /><img src="http://www.freephotoserver.com/v001/tedzan/bgordon.jpg">
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1949 Leaf BB set....show us your cards
Posted By: <b>Paul S</b><p>These are the only 3 that I own. I picked them up long ago because at the time I didn't have these players in any other set. You might notice on the Appling a small hole punch that remained intact. Not sure how it got there, maybe it was intended to be a sample? I got the card that way, in the sixties, no toploader or sleeve or nothing. That little piece remained in there all that time.<br /><br /><img src="http://i190.photobucket.com/albums/z26/pspec/Leaf_49_x3.jpg"><br />
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1949 Leaf BB set....show us your cards
Posted By: <b>Ted Zanidakis</b><p>I have "tons" of stories to tell regarding this set. I have been studying it for 27 years now. And, I hope I don't bore people<br /> with all my stories on it.<br /><br />When I recovered all my childhood cards (1947 - 1952) in 1977, I thought I had this 1949 set complete with 49 cards. In 1979,<br /> the Sports Ameriacana Checklist was published by Dennis Eckes (forerunner to the Beckett Price Guide). And, I was stunned to <br />find out that I only had half of the cards in this set.<br /><br />In 1981, I went to a big BB card show in the NJ meadowlands; and, ran into Rick Starks and Jim Johnson (dealers from Erie, PA).<br />At their table was a 1949 Leaf Satchell Paige (the very one I show in my initial post here) and 6 other scarce 2nd series cards.<br />They wanted $200 for Paige and $25 apiece for the other 6 cards.. I was down to my last $100 at that point....but, still had<br /> some cards to trade. So, Rick (a great guy) said he would take my 1954 Topps Ted Williams (#250), my 1969 Reggie Jackson<br /> rookie, and a couple of lesser star cards and $100 for these 7 Leaf cards. It was a deal....one of the best I have ever made in <br />this hobby.<br /><br />TED Z
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1949 Leaf BB set....show us your cards
Posted By: <b>Josh Adams</b><p>Ted, <br /><br />I only speak for myself, but you definately do not bore me with stories about the 49 Leaf set. I'd love to hear any and all of your stories you have. <br /><br />What steal for that Paige!! <br /><br />This set is slowly becoming my favorite. Although it's a tough call with the '33 Goudey. <br /><br />Here are some of my recent pick ups.<br /><br />Josh<br /><br /><br /><br /><img src="http://img156.imageshack.us/img156/8611/48leafdo6.jpg">
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1949 Leaf BB set....show us your cards
Posted By: <b>Anthony</b><p>One of my all time favorite sets, along with '15 Cracker Jacks.<br /> Here's a few of the color variations-<br /><img src="http://photos.imageevent.com/griffins/leafs/icons/Leaf007alt%20copy.jpg"><br /><img src="http://photos.imageevent.com/griffins/leafs/icons/Leaf101a%20copy.jpg"> <img src="http://photos.imageevent.com/griffins/leafs/icons/Leaf010%20copy.jpg"><br /> <img src="http://photos.imageevent.com/griffins/leafs/icons/Leaf026a%20copy.jpg"><br /><img src="http://photos.imageevent.com/griffins/leafs/icons/LeafVicoVariations.jpg"><br /><img src="http://photos.imageevent.com/griffins/leafs/icons/Leaf086a%20copy.jpg"><br /><img src="http://photos.imageevent.com/griffins/leafs/icons/Leaf095%20copy.jpg"> <img src="http://photos.imageevent.com/griffins/leafs/icons/LeafSnuffy8.jpg"><br /><br />I've yet to see color variations on the sp run, but Ted says they do exist.<br /><br />Since there has been a bit of confusion on the 3 variations, here's side by sides for comparison<br /><br />Peterson Red Cap (scarcer) on the left, regular cap on the right<br /><img src="http://photos.imageevent.com/griffins/leafs/icons/LeafPetersonRH6.jpg"> <img src="http://photos.imageevent.com/griffins/leafs/icons/Leaf042%20copy.jpg"><br /><br />Hermansk (scarcer) on the left and the correct version, Hermanski, on the right<br /><img src="http://photos.imageevent.com/griffins/leafs/icons/Leaf102a%20copy.jpg"> <img src="http://photos.imageevent.com/griffins/leafs/icons/Leaf102b%20copy.jpg"><br /><br />Aberson short sleeve (scarcer) with the color variation<br /><img src="http://photos.imageevent.com/griffins/leafs/icons/Leaf136a%20copy.jpg"><br />And the more common long sleeve version<br /><img src="http://photos.imageevent.com/griffins/leafs/icons/Leaf136ls%20copy.jpg"><br /><br /><br />Lastly, two different wrappers. Latest info I have on these is that the one without "baseball" is from the 2nd series, but I'm not completely convinced.<br /><img src="http://photos.imageevent.com/griffins/leafs/icons/LeafWrappers.tif.jpg"><br /><br />I really love this set, and would be interested hearing anything anyone else has on it. Just picked up 2 upgrades tonite and doubt I'll ever be done upgrading this one.<br />
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1949 Leaf BB set....show us your cards
Posted By: <b>Ted Zanidakis</b><p>I'll show my 2nd series color variation(s) later today. <br /><br />I think you and I discussed this before; but, your "PICTURES" wrapper was not part of the BB issue in 1949.<br />But, I have proof that it was the wrapper for the 1949 Leaf FB issue in the Fall of '49.<br /><br />With that fact in mind.....and, the recent confirmation that the 2nd series of BB (SP cards) was issued late<br /> Summer and into September of '49....then, perhaps the "PICTURES" wrapper was part of this BB issue.<br /><br />TED Z
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1949 Leaf BB set....show us your cards
Posted By: <b>Ted Zanidakis</b><p>ANTHONY<br /><br />Do you have all the HOF Premiums that go with this set ?<br /><br />TED Z
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1949 Leaf BB set....show us your cards
Posted By: <b>cmoking</b><p>which card would you rather have? <br /><br /><img src="http://images.mastroauctions.com/images/Auction44/photographs/67480a.jpg"> <img src="http://www.network54.com/Realm/tmp/1186960571.JPG"><br />
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1949 Leaf BB set....show us your cards
Posted By: <b>Paul S</b><p>King,<br />Scans are different. Looks like the 8 was sharpened and contrasted after or during the scan, and that the 6 was scanned at a higher dpi, hence not a sharp as it would appear in person. But all scans being equal I would go for the 6 because I like the way Babe's shoulders actually go all the way to the border. I don't mind any light stain(s) on the border. It's a nice tight card.<br />On the 8, the red background on the left-mid runs over the border a bit. Just my preference and opinion though. Heck, I'd be proud to own either one.
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1949 Leaf BB set....show us your cards
Posted By: <b>cmoking</b><p>Paul wrote: "I like the way Babe's shoulders actually go all the way to the border. "<br /><br />I didn't notice that difference until you pointed it out. thanks! <br /><br />Is this a common printing difference with the Leafs? do other cards have this difference also.
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1949 Leaf BB set....show us your cards
Posted By: <b>Paul S</b><p>Ted,<br />On that Sid Gordon card, I guess non-error Gordons must have his bat within the border of the picture. But I tell you that bat jutting of the picture and into the border is, in my opinion, one cool effect! I'd probably rather own that than the non-error. <br />Paul S
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1949 Leaf BB set....show us your cards
Posted By: <b>Ted Zanidakis</b><p>CMOKING<br /><br />There is something strange with that PSA 8 Ruth. First, I have never seen a Ruth card where his shoulders do not touch the borders.<br />Also, the look about his eyes is different. I hate to suggest it, but PSA might have graded a "phony" card.
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1949 Leaf BB set....show us your cards
Posted By: <b>cmoking</b><p>The card is in lot 528 of the current Mastro auction.<br /><a href="http://www.mastroauctions.com/index.cfm?action=DisplayContent&ContentName=Lot%20 Information&LotIndex=73483&LastLotListing=Lot%20Li st&CurrentRow=1" target="_new" rel="nofollow">http://www.mastroauctions.com/index.cfm?action=DisplayContent&ContentName=Lot%20 Information&LotIndex=73483&LastLotListing=Lot%20Li st&CurrentRow=1</a><br />
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1949 Leaf BB set....show us your cards
Posted By: <b>Ted Zanidakis</b><p>Here is a real nice Leaf Ruth currently on ebay......<br /><br /><a href="http://cgi.ebay.com/1948-49-leaf-3-Babe-Ruth-Yankees-SGC-84-7_W0QQitemZ160146253300" target="_new" rel="nofollow">http://cgi.ebay.com/1948-49-leaf-3-Babe-Ruth-Yankees-SGC-84-7_W0QQitemZ160146253300</a><br /><br />Avoid the PSA 8 card.
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1949 Leaf BB set....show us your cards
Posted By: <b>Ted Zanidakis</b><p>That bat beyond the border of the Sid Gordon card is normal. There are a few more pictures like that one in the set.<br />I'll post them when I return home.<br /><br />TED Z
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1949 Leaf BB set....show us your cards
Posted By: <b>RayB</b><p>Ted,<br />Didn't notice the bat thing on the first run through this thread till Paul pointed it out. That is really cool !<br />There's something inherently likeable about these crazy Leaf flaws.<br />RayB
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1949 Leaf BB set....show us your cards
Posted By: <b>Ted Zanidakis</b><p>A couple of more cards with bat or glove printed beyond the border.<br />And, I show the Reiser card because it has the effect of his bat almost "popping" out of card.<br /><br />TED Z<br /><br /><img src="http://www.freephotoserver.com/v001/tedzan/batsleaf3cards.jpg">
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1949 Leaf BB set....show us your cards
Posted By: <b>Paul S</b><p>Nice! The Reiser is my favorite of the 3 -- almost looks 3D. Thanks.
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1949 Leaf BB set....show us your cards
Posted By: <b>Anthony</b><p>Ted- you've been collecting this set for almost 60 years. Other than Ruth and Dimaggio, which are your favorite cards?<br /><br />King- I'd take the Ruth 6 over the Ruth 8. Buy the card......
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1949 Leaf BB set....show us your cards
Posted By: <b>Ted Zanidakis</b><p>ANTHONY<br /><br />The Satchel Paige is certainly on the top of my favorite's list.<br /><br />But, one of the very 1st cards I remember, that is a favorite of mine is Johnny Lindell.<br /><br />He was my hero of the 1947 World Series....batted .500 and drove in 7 runs. Also, he <br />made at least two stunning, diving catches in Left field. And, had quite a rifle arm. He <br />started as a Pitcher for the Yankees in 1942; but, McCarthy converted him to an out-<br />fielder<br />due to his tremendous hitting power. He regularly led the League in Doubles and Triples<br /> (that would have been HR's in any other ballpark other than Yankee Stadium.<br /><br />TED Z<br /><br /><img src="http://www.freephotoserver.com/v001/tedzan/ableafjohnnylindell.jpg">
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1949 Leaf BB set....show us your cards
Posted By: <b>Jason L</b><p>like I needed another collecting distraction.<br />Now I must have some 49 Leaf!<br />That came out of nowhere and I directly blame the posters on this thread (and Leon, for starting a postwar board)!!!<br /><img src="/images/happy.gif" height=14 width=14><br /><br />Gotta get me a Pafko and a Musial - my early favorites from the set thus far.<br /><br />honestly, though, thanks for the posts guys
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1949 Leaf BB set....show us your cards
Posted By: <b>Anthony</b><p>Peer pressure!<br /><br /><img src="http://photos.imageevent.com/griffins/leafs/websize/Leaf125%20copy.jpg">
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1949 Leaf BB set....show us your cards
Posted By: <b>Jason L</b><p>I'm sending you an email...<br />This is just unfair!<br />gorgeous Pafko.<br />you're stepping up the pressure alright, but I am still stuck buying $50-100 cards for the most part, when I can...<br />I is gonsta have to rob an armored truck to keep up! <img src="/images/happy.gif" height=14 width=14><br /><br />
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1949 Leaf BB set....show us your cards
Posted By: <b>RayB</b><p>Another one of my favorites from the set: I'll post mine since it hasn't yet been shown here.<br />RayB<br /><br /> <img src="http://www.network54.com/Realm/tmp/1187124521.JPG">
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1949 Leaf BB set....show us your cards
Posted By: <b>Ken W.</b><p>My only one:<br /><br /><img src="http://i155.photobucket.com/albums/s290/triwak/115.jpg">
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1949 Leaf BB set....show us your cards
Posted By: <b>Ted Zanidakis</b><p>ANTHONY<br /><br />Here's some more of my color variations.....note the Dillinger (a 2nd series card).<br /><br />TED Z<br /><br /><br /><img src="http://www.freephotoserver.com/v001/tedzan/arrayleaf.jpg">
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1949 Leaf BB set....show us your cards
Posted By: <b>Ted Zanidakis</b><p>I've received several emails on this set, and a lot of the questions can be answered by reading my 1949 Leaf BB<br /> article in the OLD CARDBOARD....issue #9. I am not trying to promote myself here; however, I highly recommend<br /> this magazine for anyone on this forum that doesn't subscribe to it. Lyman and Brett Hardeman are producing the<br />finest Vintage sportscard publication this hobby has ever seen.<br /><br /><img src="http://www.freephotoserver.com/v001/tedzan/art49leafoc.jpg">
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1949 Leaf BB set....show us your cards
Posted By: <b>Anthony</b><p>Ted's '49 Leaf article and Lipset's Cracker Jack article in the same issue were two of the best I've ever read in a hobby magazine. I'd second Ted's endorsement of Old Cardboard- a subscription is a must have for any serious collector.<br /><a href="http://www.oldcardboard.com/" target="_new" rel="nofollow">http://www.oldcardboard.com/</a>
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1949 Leaf BB set....show us your cards
Posted By: <b>Ted Zanidakis</b><p>We forgot to show the Leaf card of "The Scooter"<br /><br /><br /><br /><img src="http://www.freephotoserver.com/v001/tedzan/berkdrakeleafjarizz.jpg">
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1949 Leaf BB set....show us your cards
Posted By: <b>Paul S</b><p>Not mine. Thought it looked cool.<br /><img src="http://i190.photobucket.com/albums/z26/pspec/Other/Leaf_49_Musial.jpg"><br />
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1949 Leaf BB set....show us your cards
Posted By: <b>dennis</b><p>there are about 10 graded leaf ruths currently on ebay only 1 is like the nm/mint psa8 with the red showing between the borders. all the others, (and a fake) the uniform blends into the border. the one that does not is also nm+ and resides in a global holder.
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1949 Leaf BB set....show us your cards
Posted By: <b>Ted Zanidakis</b><p>Here's my Mizell Platt (lacking blue color)....perhaps, he came from the same sheet that Musial was on.<br /><br />TED Z<br /><br /><img src="http://www.freephotoserver.com/v001/tedzan/abmizellplatt.jpg">
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1949 Leaf BB set....show us your cards
Posted By: <b>dennis</b><p>where these plentiful all baseball season or very lmtd. to spring distirbution? i know you said you thought that your set was complete till the 70's. and w/the skip #ing did you really know it was complete or just no new players so you quit buying? as a kid i always remember when a new series of topps arrived but i never bought all the series all baseball season.
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1949 Leaf BB set....show us your cards
Posted By: <b>Ted Zanidakis</b><p>DENNIS<br /><br />In my neighborhood, these cards were available in March or April of '49 and by June they were gone, replaced by the<br /> new Bowman packs in our candy stores. This was true for us for the 1st series (49 cards) of this set.<br /><br />How did we know if we had a complete run is a very good question, as these cards were skip-numbered from #1 to 159.<br />These cards were so plentiful, that we all had at least quadruplicates of each player, and we compared our collections,<br /> and came to the realization that there were no more than 49 different cards.<br /><br />If you lived in the Boston area, Ohio, Michigan and Illinois, you were lucky to get the 2nd series of 49 cards. My under-<br />standing is that they were available during the Summer/Fall of '49.<br /><br />TED Z
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1949 Leaf BB set....show us your cards
Posted By: <b>dennis</b><p>thanks for the answers. that skip #ing i wondered if it was done on purpose or they had players lined up but could not get them under contract. great stuff ted!
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1949 Leaf BB set....show us your cards
Posted By: <b>Ted Zanidakis</b><p>DENNIS<br /><br />I am certain that LEAF skip-numbered the 98 cards in this set (#1 - 168) as a clever marketing trick.<br />Leaf did the same thing in 1948 with their 50 card Boxing set, skip-numbering the cards #1 - 102.<br /><br />And, I'll tell you Dennis, it worked.....as, us kids in the Spring of '49 kept spending our pennies buying<br /> Leaf packs to fill in the numbers.<br /><br />Look at the back of this Johnny Lindell card in the Premium section, it advertises a 168 card album. <br /><br /><img src="http://www.freephotoserver.com/v001/tedzan/ableafjohnnylindell.jpg"><br /><br />TED Z
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1949 Leaf BB set....show us your cards
Posted By: <b>dennis</b><p>ted good one with the album that holds 168 "baseball cards".usually a card co. would have said store your 168 "leaf" baseball cards or your 168 card "leaf set"....bill clinton would be proud!
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1949 Leaf BB set....show us your cards
Posted By: <b>Ted Zanidakis</b><p>And, card numbering diagram<br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><img src="http://www.freephotoserver.com/v001/tedzan/array49leaf.jpg"><br /><br /><br /><br />TED Z
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