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cyclo 07-24-2020 10:12 AM

Can’t find this International Babe Ruth card anywhere
 
Hello everyone, I’m new here! Thanks for letting me join. :-) I was wondering if someone could assist me with some old pre war tobacco cards I own? I have a Babe Ruth (back says Fabrica Morazan, and I can’t find it anywhere), and a TON of Tabacalera La Monera boxing cards that are very much not a part of the 1928 issue I see on the internet.

Seven 07-24-2020 10:19 AM

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Originally Posted by cyclo (Post 2002313)
Hello everyone, I’m new here! Thanks for letting me join. :-) I was wondering if someone could assist me with some old pre war tobacco cards I own? I have a Babe Ruth (back says Fabrica Morazan, and I can’t find it anywhere), and a TON of Tabacalera La Monera boxing cards that are very much not a part of the 1928 issue I see on the internet.

Could you post some images? I'm sure there would be more than a few people that could help you out.

cyclo 07-24-2020 11:31 AM

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Originally Posted by Seven (Post 2002316)
Could you post some images? I'm sure there would be more than a few people that could help you out.



Yes, here are some images. I won't post all of them as this is more of a baseball site, but here are some other examples of what I have.
Thanks. : -)

Leon 07-24-2020 11:56 AM

I used to own a Ruth...
Neat card.

Exhibitman 07-24-2020 12:03 PM

The World Tobacco Index lists Fabrica Morazan cards as from San Salvador, described as follows:

"M869-800 about 1925-30 Sportsmen (A) Sm. 60 x 40 Back in brown. Nd. (100)"

I'd say you have a very tough foreign type card of Ruth. You'd still want to check the paper and card for signs of modern production...and get it into a more secure holder so it doesn't get creased.

packs 07-24-2020 12:05 PM

Is he throwing a football?

ullmandds 07-24-2020 12:08 PM

he looks like he's dressed up to play multiple sports all at the same time...but not baseball!

cyclo 07-24-2020 12:08 PM

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Originally Posted by packs (Post 2002345)
Is he throwing a football?

Haha honestly I have no idea what he’s throwing

cyclo 07-24-2020 12:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Exhibitman (Post 2002344)
The World Tobacco Index lists Fabrica Morazan cards as from San Salvador, described as follows:

"M869-800 about 1925-30 Sportsmen (A) Sm. 60 x 40 Back in brown. Nd. (100)"

I'd say you have a very tough foreign type card of Ruth. You'd still want to check the paper and card for signs of modern production...and get it into a more secure holder so it doesn't get creased.

This actually came from an old man‘s album in El Salvador, and the album was closed/stored for awhile. That’s why the corners on the Ruth are so sharp... I will double check if there were any modern prints though. Thank you!

Leon 07-24-2020 12:52 PM

For comparison...

From my first collection (no longer own)..and I guess yours is a different mfg with the same pic...

https://luckeycards.com/ptuncmasterFINAL1.jpg

cyclo 07-24-2020 01:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Leon (Post 2002365)
For comparison...

From my first collection..and I guess yours is a different mfg with the same pic...

https://luckeycards.com/ptuncmasterFINAL1.jpg

Wow fascinating. So yours was from Angola... this Babe Ruth also came with a ton of other cards like it w the same type of art style. I’m assuming the mfg just got the art work from Angola, or vice versa like you said.

NiceDocter 07-24-2020 01:55 PM

Cool card
 
Cool card but a random guy on the street would probably look more like Babe Ruth than this guy! Jus sayin.....

cyclo 07-24-2020 02:06 PM

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Originally Posted by NiceDocter (Post 2002401)
Cool card but a random guy on the street would probably look more like Babe Ruth than this guy! Jus sayin.....

Haha! I agree!

Yoda 07-24-2020 02:19 PM

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Originally Posted by cyclo (Post 2002347)
Haha honestly I have no idea what he’s throwing

Could be a base.

CobbSpikedMe 07-24-2020 02:47 PM

Not sure if this is helpful for you or not, but one of our members has the following post on his website about this set.

Click Here

Rich Falvo 07-24-2020 02:48 PM

PreWarCards has written about the images on Angola version of the cards.

https://prewarcards.com/2018/04/17/a...s-of-all-time/

earlywynnfan 07-24-2020 04:58 PM

Couldn't they at least get a left-handed mannequin?

Rhotchkiss 07-24-2020 05:17 PM

He is fully throwing a football (or a UFO). And what’s up with the glove? Very cool card though and pretty awesome that they made contemporaneous cards of Ruth in El Salvador and Angola. And holy crap, Angola? Perhaps one the most random countries around, second only to maybe Namibia to the south and Gabon to the north.

swarmee 07-24-2020 07:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Rhotchkiss (Post 2002507)
He is fully throwing a football (or a UFO). And what’s up with the glove? Very cool card though and pretty awesome that they made contemporaneous cards of Ruth in El Salvador and Angola. And holy crap, Angola? Perhaps one the most random countries around, second only to maybe Namibia to the south and Gabon to the north.

We're having this discussion in another thread. Cards were most likely manufactured in Portugal with tobacco imported from Angola.

cyclo 07-26-2020 10:39 PM

update:
 
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update! i found the Salvadorian version of the Alexander card posted along with others from the set, i have the pair, although the other one is in a photo album :(

thanks for everyone's help. i assume that there was an issue in el salvador that just mirrors the angolian issue but w/ a different back.


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