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leftygrove10 12-10-2013 06:21 PM

Lefty Grove #2....
 
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Lucky Strike Ad of Lefty Grove..... (Happy to have it, but it needs to be upgraded.... LOL)

conor912 12-10-2013 11:50 PM

Some pretty amazing pieces in this thread. Does anyone know if there's a centralized place that would have even some rough pricing info on items like these? I could see it being all over the map, too.

wolf441 12-11-2013 05:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wonkaticket (Post 1215756)

Great item John! My son is fascinated by pirates (not sure if that's a good thing :)). I've picked up a few of these cards for him. My way of justifying card collecting as a "family project" to the wife!!

wonkaticket 12-11-2013 06:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wolf441 (Post 1215943)
Great item John! My son is fascinated by pirates (not sure if that's a good thing :)). I've picked up a few of these cards for him. My way of justifying card collecting as a "family project" to the wife!!

Arghhhh thanks Steve. :)

That's a great way BTW to get someone into collecting if he's into Pirates embrace it with cards, FYI there are also some very reasonable UK tobacco sets that have pirates too.

Cheers,

John

P.S. Just make sure it won't turn to Pittsburgh Pirates there's one card that can be kind of $$$$. :)

3-2-count 12-11-2013 06:29 AM

Agreed, that Virginia Brights Pirates piece is amazing John. To keep the Virginia Brights theme going these two large advertising pieces (8"x13") were more than likely displayed in a general store to market Allen & Ginter Richmond Cigarettes. A couple wonderful cigarette making gals!! (CJ in pic used only to give you an idea of actual size)

http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a95...ps44f65198.jpg

http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a95...ps1087c1da.jpg

http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a95...ps87bcab44.jpg

These similar poses are found on N46's which I have one.

http://photos.imageevent.com/ltsgall...hts%20card.jpg http://photos.imageevent.com/ltsgall...%20pic%202.JPG
http://photos.imageevent.com/ltsgall...%20Box%201.JPG

wolf441 12-11-2013 06:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wonkaticket (Post 1215944)
Arghhhh thanks Steve. :)

That's a great way BTW to get someone into collecting if he's into Pirates embrace it with cards, FYI there are also some very reasonable UK tobacco sets that have pirates too.

Cheers,

John

P.S. Just make sure it won't turn to Pittsburgh Pirates there's one card that can be kind of $$$$. :)

Thanks John!

I'll check out the UK pirate tobacco cards. I've also picked up a Pirates brand back with a Chinese warrior on the front for him. That's about the closest I'll come to owning a T215:D!!

And I've floated the idea of a Honus "Pirate" as a nice "cross collecting" piece for him. Quickly received the Heisman from my wife on that one!! :D

wonkaticket 12-11-2013 06:52 AM

Ahh yes T215s not a cheap one either. :)

Tony great Ginter stuff love it!

More Ginter goodness....
http://photos.imageevent.com/piojohn...rge/Birds1.jpghttp://photos.imageevent.com/piojohn...arge/Naval.jpg

Leon 12-11-2013 07:21 AM

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a few counter displays.....

3-2-count 12-11-2013 07:46 AM

When purchased originally I thought this was a Piedmont counter display used for single cigarette sales, but after looking at it closer I believe it to be a counter ashtray.
Note the strike marks on the side a match would have left. Well loved, but cool none the less.

http://photos.imageevent.com/ltsgall...shtraynum1.JPG

http://photos.imageevent.com/ltsgall...shtraynum3.JPG

David Halpen 12-11-2013 08:00 AM

Great items. Here are some Cracker Jack ad pieces from the 1914/15 era.

Cracker Jack posters.

http://photos.imageevent.com/halpen/...ze/cjstore.jpg

http://photos.imageevent.com/halpen/...ize/img116.jpg

Trolley Sign

http://photos.imageevent.com/halpen/...e/DSC03661.JPG

Everybody loves Cracker Jack - from children to soldiers

http://photos.imageevent.com/halpen/...rackerjack.jpg

http://photos.imageevent.com/halpen/...ze/cj4cwcj.jpg

tedzan 12-11-2013 08:06 AM

Show your Tobacco, Candy, Gum, etc. advertisement pieces
 
This TUXEDO advertisement Circa 1912-13 is dated by the stated fact that Heine Zimmerman was the 1912 NL Batting Champion (BA = .372)

http://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan7...GJenn50x_1.jpg
http://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan7...ajoie50x_1.jpg




TUXEDO tobacco tin......circa 1920

http://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan7...accoTin75x.jpg



TED Z

3-2-count 12-11-2013 08:19 AM

[QUOTE=David Halpen;1215979]Great items. Here are some Cracker Jack ad pieces from the 1914/15 era.

Trolley Sign

http://photos.imageevent.com/halpen/...e/DSC03661.JPG


David that Cracker Jack trolley sign is simply incredible!!

DerekMichael 12-11-2013 10:01 AM

"wholesome and nutritious" :p

wonkaticket 12-11-2013 11:00 AM

A few more W. Duke, Sons & Co. items.

Letter to dealer most likely referencing the N150/N151's....

http://photos.imageevent.com/piojohn...rge/img143.jpg
http://photos.imageevent.com/piojohn...ize/img144.jpg

N150 Display

http://photos.imageevent.com/piojohn...rge/Honest.jpg

kdixon 12-11-2013 05:18 PM

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Mail Pouch Zack Wheat.

tedzan 12-12-2013 09:12 AM

Show your Tobacco, Candy, Gum, etc. advertisement pieces
 
1871 Troy Haymakers advertisements, player photo & scorecard


http://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan7...makersyork.jpg

http://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan7...erflynnb_1.jpg



TED Z

joeadcock 12-12-2013 10:07 AM

Ted
Outstanding piece

tedzan 12-12-2013 05:00 PM

Show your Tobacco, Candy, Gum, etc. advertisement pieces
 
http://i1255.photobucket.com/albums/...hesterfieldAdv




T-Rex TED

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SHECKARD (glove)

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tedzan 12-12-2013 07:15 PM

Joeadcock
 
I appreciate your compliment.

Thanks,

TED Z

tedzan 12-14-2013 06:59 AM

Show your Tobacco, Candy, Gum, etc. advertisement pieces
 
Wonka

Excellent pieces....thanks for sharing them with us.


TED Z

tedzan 12-14-2013 07:07 AM

GOODWIN CHAMPIONS album and Coupon premiums
 
Circa 1888-1889
https://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan...a36coupons.jpg

Album cover and pages 1 & 2 of 12
https://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan...36%20cover.jpg

http://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan7...mpions%202.jpg . http://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan7...mpions%203.jpg


TED Z
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LOOKING for this T206 guy to complete my EXCLUSIVE 12 red HINDU sub-set (12 subjects)

SHECKARD (glove)
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steve B 12-14-2013 02:09 PM

Some beautiful stuff!

I don't have much, my wife is very anti-tobacco with good reason so I can't really buy big ad pieces even if I could afford them.

Tradecards and miscellaneous ads are ok though. I just can't display them.
I haven't gone through the old magazines as much as I'd like.

Steve B

tradecard - trimmed but still nice.
http://www.net54baseball.com/picture...pictureid=6575

Ad on the back cover of a magazine.
http://www.net54baseball.com/picture...pictureid=5664

Tao_Moko 12-14-2013 02:23 PM

Nice Piedmont Logo
 
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Wish I could figure out who J.D. Miller was. The "D" ruins the most likely from that era.

JollyRoger 12-14-2013 05:54 PM

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Salesman's sample...

kdixon 12-15-2013 09:32 AM

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Bambino Candy Box by Curtiss Candy and Cracker Jack Bears Postcard.

1880nonsports 12-15-2013 01:57 PM

Just a thought
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by JollyRoger (Post 1217254)
Salesman's sample...

I would suggest that what you have is the top from a carton. Such boxes are hard to find.

No guarantees whether written or implied.

wasickjj 12-15-2013 04:04 PM

EPDG Advertising
 
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I was told these were circa 1905-1910 but I have no way to verify.

tedzan 12-16-2013 05:59 PM

Show your Tobacco, Candy, Gum, etc. advertisement pieces
 



Some really great advertising stuff in this thread; and, especially some beautiful El Principe de Gales adv. I'll follow these with 10 of my EPDG T206's.

Furthermore, I've wondered why this T-brand was not carried over to subsequent issues (T205, T207, etc.) ?

Does anyone on this forum have any idea(s) why this is ? ?
I'd really love to hear them.



http://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan7...gEPDGsgc60.jpg.http://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan7...EPDGsgc60b.jpg.http://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan7...zEPDGsgc60.jpg


http://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan7...MurLorEPDG.jpg
http://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan7...rLorEPDGxb.jpg



TED Z
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LOOKING for this T206 guy to complete my EXCLUSIVE 12 red HINDU sub-set (12 subjects)

SHECKARD (glove)
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steve B 12-16-2013 08:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tedzan (Post 1217790)
Some really great advertising stuff in this thread; and, especially some beautiful El Principe de Gales adv. I'll follow these with 10 of my EPDG T206's.

Furthermore, I've wondered why this T-brand was not carried over to subsequent issues (T205, T207, etc.) ?

Does anyone on this forum have any idea(s) why this is ? ?
I'd really love to hear them.



.

It's difficult to tell for sure from the ads, but I believe they're meant to portray the eventual King George V who became prince of wales on 9 November 1901. Edward VII wanted to prepare him to be king, a preparation Queen Victoria hadn't given Edward.

Once George became king on May 6, 1910 the pun and imagery lost a bit. Especially since the title is not hereditary and the eventual Edward VIII didn't become prince of Wales until 23 June 1911. He also wasn't as popular as George, and much thinner. So holding over a brand based on a pun that no longer made any sense also made little sense.

Just a theory of course.

Steve B

RGold 12-16-2013 10:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by steve B (Post 1217848)
It's difficult to tell for sure from the ads, but I believe they're meant to portray the eventual King George V who became prince of wales on 9 November 1901. Edward VII wanted to prepare him to be king, a preparation Queen Victoria hadn't given Edward.

Once George became king on May 6, 1910 the pun and imagery lost a bit. Especially since the title is not hereditary and the eventual Edward VIII didn't become prince of Wales until 23 June 1911. He also wasn't as popular as George, and much thinner. So holding over a brand based on a pun that no longer made any sense also made little sense.

Just a theory of course.

Steve B

Close, but no cigar. :D:D:D

El Principe de Gales was the Prince of Wales and future King Edward VII. He was granted the title in 1841 as heir apparent to Queen Victoria, and did not become King until 1901.

He was known internationally as the Playboy Prince, and the perfect representative for a cigar brand since he was also known to be a heavy smoker.

The brand name El Principe de Gales had been in use since the 1850's, pre-dating the future King George V who did not become Prince of Wales until 1901.

Upon King Edward's death in 1910, King George assumed the throne, and the brand name most likely lost its meaning as you theorized.

sb1 12-17-2013 06:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tao_Moko (Post 1217191)
Wish I could figure out who J.D. Miller was. The "D" ruins the most likely from that era.

John Daniel Miller b. Sept 5 1895 d. March 15 1966 lived in Newton many years.

steve B 12-17-2013 11:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RGold (Post 1217869)
Close, but no cigar. :D:D:D

El Principe de Gales was the Prince of Wales and future King Edward VII. He was granted the title in 1841 as heir apparent to Queen Victoria, and did not become King until 1901.

He was known internationally as the Playboy Prince, and the perfect representative for a cigar brand since he was also known to be a heavy smoker.

The brand name El Principe de Gales had been in use since the 1850's, pre-dating the future King George V who did not become Prince of Wales until 1901.

Upon King Edward's death in 1910, King George assumed the throne, and the brand name most likely lost its meaning as you theorized.

I had a feeling it was actually Edward. Sort of odd that they kept the brand going so long after he became king, but I suppose if sales stayed good there wasn't much reason to change. From the photos I've seen George had a similar look, so maybe it still made some sense until 1910.

I had a quick look at some stamp series, and the Canadian stamps of Georges reign are called the admirals, mostly because the depict him in his admiral of the fleet uniform, a theme that turns up in the ads. So the transition was probably an easy one.
Both Edward and George were admiral of the navy, a largely ceremonial title that could be held by more than one person, and was occasionally held by a foreign leader like Czar Nicholas. And of the royal family the only one holding the title without having naval service was Edward VII - Something I didn't know before looking it up.

This stuff can be a lot of fun, and not just for learning about baseball :D

Steve B

RGold 12-17-2013 12:59 PM

:D:D:D

http://photos.imageevent.com/rgold/r...graphs/pi1.jpg

tedzan 12-17-2013 06:18 PM

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Steve and Ron

Thanks for some interesting bit of history regarding the EPDG brand.

I notced that in the 1911 divestiture of the American Tobacco Company (ATC), the EPDG brand was
not assigned to any of the three resulting Tobacco Company's (ATC....Liggett & Meyers....Lorillard).


TED Z

Tao_Moko 12-17-2013 07:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sb1 (Post 1217907)
John Daniel Miller b. Sept 5 1895 d. March 15 1966 lived in Newton many years.

Well, I'd say that pretty much resolves my question.

pete zouras 12-17-2013 08:13 PM

piedmont sign
 
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in what I was told was a barnwood frame.

tedzan 12-19-2013 09:00 AM

Show your Tobacco, Candy, Gum, etc. advertisement pieces
 
http://i529.photobucket.com/albums/

dstudeba 12-19-2013 11:44 AM

Lucky Strike signs
 
Has anyone ever seen other examples of these two? I would love to see the entire display of the second image. (it is about 1.5 x 2 feet)

http://www.baseballcardresource.com/...StrikeHoyt.jpg

http://www.baseballcardresource.com/...ikePartial.jpg

tedzan 12-19-2013 03:10 PM

Here's a GUM card Adv.
 
http://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan7...gGraYostBk.jpg.http://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan7...LogGraYost.jpg



TED Z
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SHECKARD (glove)

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wonkaticket 12-19-2013 05:01 PM

http://photos.imageevent.com/piojohn...e/DSCN1303.JPG

tedzan 12-20-2013 12:02 PM

1949 BOWMAN GUM cards Advertisement
 
http://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan7...eRaschi75x.jpg



TED Z
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LOOKING for this T206 guy to complete my EXCLUSIVE 12 red HINDU sub-set (12 subjects)

SHECKARD (glove)

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GasHouseGang 12-20-2013 04:51 PM

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Well, if we are going to include gum you could show this store display that has been shown before. I wouldn't mind owning one of those uncut sheets!

Leon 12-20-2013 05:28 PM

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Originally Posted by wonkaticket (Post 1218708)


Nice one John!!

rhettyeakley 12-20-2013 07:39 PM

Possibly one of a kind, N115's are tough enough by themselves (measures 15" x 15")...
http://starsofthediamond.com/n115honestad.jpg

canjond 12-20-2013 09:52 PM

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Not sure how this one survived on eBay.... although I'm sure there are more out there, this is only the 2nd Yum Yum I've seen that relates directly to the card issue (i.e., we know that cards were packaged in the cubed tins). When this arrives, I'm hoping there might be remnants of the baseball card advertising band left (doubt it, but hopeful!).

ksfarmboy 12-21-2013 04:03 PM

My contribution.
 
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Colgans.

rsst206 12-22-2013 12:17 PM

another colgan sign and number 7
 
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http://www.net54baseball.com/attachm...1&d=1387739784

atx840 12-22-2013 12:57 PM

Not sure the date on this one. Has similar markings to another ALC proof I own.

http://i.imgur.com/nxv51Wt.jpg

ullmandds 12-22-2013 01:07 PM

that colgans sign is awesome!!!!

Leon 12-22-2013 01:19 PM

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Epdg.....


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