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dzolot 01-10-2017 06:25 PM

1947 Musial
 
http://m.ebay.com/itm/1947-Bond-Brea...519861?txnId=0

Technically not be right thread, I know but wanted some quick feedback on this card. Seems to be an early Musial in good condition for not a lot of money. Can anyone provide info on the card, value range if ligit and opinions on if real (or if I literally wasted $30)?

Thank you in advance!

DZ

abroome 01-10-2017 06:41 PM

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Originally Posted by dzolot (Post 1619304)
http://m.ebay.com/itm/1947-Bond-Brea...519861?txnId=0

Technically not be right thread, I know but wanted some quick feedback on this card. Seems to be an early Musial in good condition for not a lot of money. Can anyone provide info on the card, value range if ligit and opinions on if real (or if I literally wasted $30)?

Thank you in advance!

DZ

Not good

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dzolot 01-10-2017 07:27 PM

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Originally Posted by abroome (Post 1619316)
Not good

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Please explain. Would love to hear your thoughts. Thank you.

glchen 01-10-2017 07:32 PM

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Originally Posted by dzolot (Post 1619336)
Please explain. Would love to hear your thoughts. Thank you.

Genuine ones should have rounded corners (and should be white instead of yellow). See Link for authentic examples.

abroome 01-10-2017 07:36 PM

Search the board for more info like this thread:
http://www.net54baseball.com/showthread.php?t=228615

And Old Cardboard also shows authentic rounded corner card:

http://www.oldcardboard.com/d/d305/d...cardsetID=1003


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Shoebox 01-10-2017 07:47 PM

I am always suspect of the square corner versions althougth I have seen threads suggesting their was a square corner set that existed but the color of the card stock on the back looks wrong to me.

nat 01-10-2017 08:13 PM

Can the OP file a "not as described" complaint, since (if the feedback above is correct) it's not a 1947 Bond Bread Musial?

Paul S 01-11-2017 02:55 AM

If you see it in a labeled screw-down, yer gonna get...

bbcard1 01-11-2017 07:01 AM

I think it's somewhere between good and not good depending on how you look at it. It is most likely oldish, just not 1947. These have been around the hobby for decades and sort of have their own place. It is not something like, for instance, a Helmar card that is contrived to look old. That's my opinion anyway. Would have I paid $30 for it? No. If I were a big Musial fan and liked the card, I would not lose any sleep over it.

Of course there is always the possibility based on the poor photo that it's a true fake, but I doubt it. JMO.

tedzan 01-11-2017 07:22 AM

Hey DZ

It's from the "reprint find" of 1980.


Check out this thread, titled...." 1947 BOND BREAD and its "imposters"....show us your cards ? "
http://www.net54baseball.com/showthr...947+bond+bread


Displayed here are the real ones......
http://i603.photobucket.com/albums/t...ookiestars.jpg


TED Z
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dzolot 01-11-2017 08:04 AM

Thank you all for your insight and feedback. This message board is filled with geniuses/ human almanacs that continue to impress me with their wealth of knowledge. This board and its members are a priceless asset to our community and the hobby that we all love so much!!! Thank you!!

ls7plus 01-12-2017 05:54 PM

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Originally Posted by tedzan (Post 1619424)
Hey DZ

It's from the "reprint find" of 1980.


Check out this thread, titled...." 1947 BOND BREAD and its "imposters"....show us your cards ? "
http://www.net54baseball.com/showthr...947+bond+bread


Displayed here are the real ones......
http://i603.photobucket.com/albums/t...ookiestars.jpg


TED Z
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Exactly! My personal opinion is that someone found the original plates and ran off quantities of them, as the later square-cornered cards display the correct dot pattern under magnification. Bunches of them surfaced in the '80's and '90's, and PSA, as I recall, is no longer grading '47 Bond Bread at all (except the "Exhibits," which are larger, but actually not from the Chicago Exhibit Supply Co. at all).

Hi, Ted,

Larry

Leon 01-13-2017 08:39 AM

The same printing press theory exists for the Fro Joy cards too. That is why grading companies don't like to grade them, so I have heard.

Quote:

Originally Posted by ls7plus (Post 1619969)
Exactly! My personal opinion is that someone found the original plates and ran off quantities of them, as the later square-cornered cards display the correct dot pattern under magnification. Bunches of them surfaced in the '80's and '90's, and PSA, as I recall, is no longer grading '47 Bond Bread at all (except the "Exhibits," which are larger, but actually not from the Chicago Exhibit Supply Co. at all).

Hi, Ted,

Larry



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