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kemdawg 09-07-2016 10:04 PM

What grade do you think this Kaline RC will get?
 
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Hello all,

I'm going to send this Kaline RC in to PSA, but I wanted to get everyone's opinion on it first. On first glance, it appears to be a PSA 5 or possibly even a 6. There are no creases/wrinkles, the centering is very nice, and the corners are decent. However, take a look at the front, bottom/center of the card. There's a small piece of the card that is torn on the card, but yet it is still partially connected. The piece that's torn is still completely present so there's no paper loss. Would love to get some opinions on this. Thanks in advance!
Travis

KCRfan1 09-07-2016 10:10 PM

Dawg,

I'm going with a grade of a 1 or 2. That paper tear is going to be costly.

DBesse27 09-07-2016 10:13 PM

PSA 1. I've never seen a torn card grade higher

TheNightmanCometh 09-07-2016 11:07 PM

A 1 in a grade, but a 10 in my heart.

Neal 09-08-2016 04:36 AM

one of the nicest PSA 1's you will ever see!

swarmee 09-08-2016 05:06 AM

I'll go with a 2. I have had some card that were slightly torn get 2s from PSA in my T51 college set.

Leon 09-08-2016 06:13 AM

1.5 ...great looking card though

stlcardsfan 09-08-2016 06:58 AM

Yep, a 1 or a 2. I wouldn't grade it. Nice card.

bbcard1 09-08-2016 07:18 AM

Depends on how big of a customer you are for TGC.

Dpeck100 09-08-2016 07:45 AM

I just did a Google search and he is still alive. Get that baby signed!

RayBShotz 09-08-2016 08:34 AM

Easy 6 all day long without the tear maybe 6.5.
With the tear a 1.5 at best.
RayB

Harliduck 09-08-2016 09:57 AM

To me this would be an example of where grading it would hurt the value (just my opinion), which is great for a guy like me who buys. I would pay "4" money for that raw, only the 1.5 or 2 value if graded regardless of how clean it looks.

That is an awesome card, and I would replace mine with that card in a heartbeat, and mine was popped from a 4 BVG I bought a couple years ago. Awesome card...

DBesse27 09-08-2016 10:30 AM

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Originally Posted by bbcard1 (Post 1582628)
Depends on how big of a customer you are for TGC.

Myth.

almostdone 09-08-2016 12:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Harliduck (Post 1582688)
To me this would be an example of where grading it would hurt the value (just my opinion), which is great for a guy like me who buys. I would pay "4" money for that raw, only the 1.5 or 2 value if graded regardless of how clean it looks.

That is an awesome card, and I would replace mine with that card in a heartbeat, and mine was popped from a 4 BVG I bought a couple years ago. Awesome card...

+1. Totally agree.
Drew

kemdawg 09-08-2016 01:38 PM

Thanks for the input everyone. Such a shame a nice card like this has that defect. Oh well!
Travis

kemdawg 09-08-2016 01:43 PM

One last thing I wanted to make clear...the tear does not go all the way through to the back of the card. It is only a small piece on the front as thin as paper. You can see from the back scan that the back of the card is completely intact. Does this make any difference at all?

campyfan39 09-08-2016 01:44 PM

In my experience it's very true. I detest grading for numerous reasons but did submit some that I was selling. Decided to send in about a dozen more through a dealer friend who submits 400-500 at a time. I was amazed at the grades I recieved compared to the 10 card submission I sent myself. Too subjective! Keep em pure I say!

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Originally Posted by DBesse27 (Post 1582718)
Myth.


Rookiemonster 09-08-2016 01:50 PM

Great eye appeal
 
The top left looks like it has a stain. Along with the tear I would say 1maybe 2

irv 09-08-2016 02:58 PM

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Originally Posted by kemdawg (Post 1582810)
Thanks for the input everyone. Such a shame a nice card like this has that defect. Oh well!
Travis

It could be worse, Travis. :(

kemdawg 09-08-2016 03:42 PM

Ouch, that paper loss on the Mantle makes me cringe. I guess I'll trade it for my Kaline RC if I have to. : )

pokerplyr80 09-08-2016 05:29 PM

Looks like a card that battlefield would buy, photoshop out the tear, then advertise as NM.

Johnny630 09-08-2016 06:24 PM

I'm with John, I'd keep the card raw and enjoy the hell outta it! It looks great

irv 09-08-2016 07:04 PM

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Originally Posted by kemdawg (Post 1582856)
Ouch, that paper loss on the Mantle makes me cringe. I guess I'll trade it for my Kaline RC if I have to. : )

:D

Bcwcardz 09-08-2016 11:20 PM

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Originally Posted by DBesse27 (Post 1582718)
Myth.

Meh. I Dont buy that its a full out falsehood. There is some truth there. Im sure its not every big submitter but these honchos have personal friends that they have known for years. Not everyone is ethical and that for sure includes the so called grading Gods.

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