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BuzzD 10-19-2020 01:21 PM

1907 NYAL mystery photos
 
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I have a 1907 composite photo that is likely a presentation piece after season was done but 2 of the photos are unlabeled. Any guesses on who the players might be? One looks like Neal Ball but I thought you guys might have some ideas. One could be either Rudy Baerwald or Branch Rickey?

RUKen 10-20-2020 05:15 AM

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Originally Posted by BuzzD (Post 2027085)
I have a 1907 composite photo that is likely a presentation piece after season was done but 2 of the photos are unlabeled. Any guesses on who the players might be?

I think that both images could be Clark Griffith. The middle two photos below are Griffith in 1904 and 1905.

BuzzD 10-20-2020 04:53 PM

I don't know. Griffith would have been 38 in 1907 and only pitched 4 games. Photo looks like a much younger player. I guess earlier photo could have been used but he was already pictured as the manager.

milkit1 10-20-2020 05:40 PM

I agree the first one is Clark Griffith

RUKen 10-23-2020 07:58 AM

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Originally Posted by BuzzD (Post 2027427)
I don't know. Griffith would have been 38 in 1907 and only pitched 4 games. Photo looks like a much younger player. I guess earlier photo could have been used but he was already pictured as the manager.

The image on the left (with NY clearly visible on the shirt) shows a player wearing a 1906 uniform, when Griffith pitched in 17 games; he was very much a part of his own pitching staff then. The face has the same strong features as Griffith's; I'm pretty certain that's him. The other photo is not as clear, but still resembles him. Perhaps this collage was made as a gift to Griffith himself, so the images of him in uniform did not need to be identified.

BuzzD 10-24-2020 07:44 PM

On the reverse there is a notation of Al Orth - I was kind of assuming that this was distributed to all the team members after the season and that it might have been in whatever he saved

Dto7 10-27-2020 06:14 AM

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Al Orth is the third player and looks like in Chicago. Here's another of him in Chicago in 1905.

BuzzD 10-28-2020 04:54 AM

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Below is detail re Orth on the composite. I still think the unlabeled guy near him is Neal Ball.

RUKen 10-28-2020 10:17 AM

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Originally Posted by BuzzD (Post 2029843)
Below is detail re Orth on the composite. I still think the unlabeled guy near him is Neal Ball.

The unlabeled player is wearing a dark uniform, which the Highlanders last wore in the 1906 season. Neal Ball debuted with the team in September, 1907. Why would he be wearing a dark uniform?

BuzzD 10-28-2020 11:24 AM

This is not a 1907 team photo but rather a composite photo. I guess the team did not have individual photos done of each player each year but rather provided the photographer what they had on hand to put together the piece.

RUKen 10-28-2020 11:35 AM

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Originally Posted by BuzzD (Post 2027085)
I have a 1907 composite photo that is likely a presentation piece after season was done but 2 of the photos are unlabeled.

Lew Brockett is included among the players on the composite. Brockett started the season with New York, but his contract was sold to Montreal of the Eastern League in early August. I don't think that any of the players that joined the team in September are clearly identified on this piece, so it seems likely that it was made before or early in the season rather than afterwards.

RUKen 10-29-2020 09:13 AM

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Originally Posted by RUKen (Post 2029940)
Lew Brockett is included among the players on the composite. Brockett started the season with New York, but his contract was sold to Montreal of the Eastern League in early August. I don't think that any of the players that joined the team in September are clearly identified on this piece, so it seems likely that it was made before or early in the season rather than afterwards.

In addition, Cy Barger (who is in the composite) pitched in just one game for the Highlanders, on May 10th. The rest of his games in 1907 were in the Eastern League. This is pretty clearly a composite of the team that began the season.


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