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Rhotchkiss 06-09-2020 06:24 AM

1908-09 Rose Company Post Cards - Let's see'em
 
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From Sports Collector Daily (link to balance of article is below):

1908-09 Rose Company Postcard Basics
The 1908-09 Rose Company set is one of the largest postcard issues produced in the pre-war era. While many sets featured generic subjects, this release is heavily sought after because it features real players.

The postcards have a pleasing design. A round black and white headshot of a player is the feature here, placed near the middle of the postcard along with his name and team. The background is a playing field and, as a result, primarily green. Generic baseball players are displayed at the bottom and a crossed bat and ball design is included on every postcard around the player’s headshot. The postcard, minus the individual player picture, is embossed, presenting a 3D feel.

Backs of the postcards were much simpler than the front with only a simple divider line, a place for a stamp, and the Rose Company logo, a fancy ‘TRC’, which can also be found on some of their other sets. The postcards were approximately 3 1/2″ wide x 5 1/2″ tall, a standard size for postcard issues.

Link to article: https://www.sportscollectorsdaily.co...postcards-set/

In my opinion, this is the most beautiful baseball issue. Post'em if you got'em

phikappapsi 06-09-2020 06:43 AM

WOW, THE MINI-HONUS MUST BE DOUBLE RARE!!!

Kidding, those are beautiful, as usual man.

sb1 06-09-2020 02:06 PM

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Tougher HOFer...

sb1 06-09-2020 02:07 PM

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Easier HOFer....

BuzzD 06-09-2020 05:46 PM

Glade and Stahl
 
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I'm more into the obscure guys. They only appear as NYAL in the Rose PCs. Anybody have Harry Niles? (just a little begging...)

Baseball Rarities 06-09-2020 10:01 PM

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Anybody have Harry Niles?

Here is Niles.

Baseball Rarities 06-09-2020 10:15 PM

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Here is a Walter Johnson. To follow Scott's descriptions, he is a "medium tough" Hall of Famer with three or four known copies. If you consider postcards as being an actual card, then this is his rookie "card."

Nevertheless, I love the Horner portrait of Johnson in his black uniform with upturned collar.

I agree with Ryan and consider the Rose Co. postcards one of the most attractive issues ever produced.

The "main" set was initially issued in 1908 and consists of 192 cards - 12 players for each of the 16 teams. In nearly every case, each team is represented by 4 pitchers and 8 field players. Virtually every established star of the day was included in the set. There were a few additions made after the initial 192 subjects were produced.

There was also a set of 14 Scranton players which includes Moonlight Graham.

Jerry Spillman has written a couple of excellent articles on the set that have been published in both SCD and Beckett's Vintage Collector.

HRBAKER 06-09-2020 10:22 PM

https://i152.photobucket.com/albums/...lankRosePC.jpg https://i152.photobucket.com/albums/...psrhamzqce.jpg https://i152.photobucket.com/albums/...ps24d98cb2.jpg

Vintagecatcher 06-10-2020 03:20 AM

George Gibson
 
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My only Rose Company Postcard, George Gibson.

Patrick

jerrys 06-11-2020 08:19 AM

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Thanks Kevin -
Here are a few Rose Postcards that are not seen often:


Rhotchkiss 06-11-2020 12:41 PM

Wow, keep’em coming! A WaJo, Matty, Keeler, Waddell... awesome

Hankphenom 06-11-2020 02:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Baseball Rarities (Post 1988723)
Here is a Walter Johnson. To follow Scott's descriptions, he is a "medium tough" Hall of Famer with three or four known copies. If you consider postcards as being an actual card, then this is his rookie "card." Nevertheless, I love the Horner portrait of Johnson in his black uniform with upturned collar.

Gorgeous Rose WaJo, undoubtedly the nicest condition out there. Do you know if Ron Menchine's, which was featured in his baseball postcard book, ever came out after he passed away in 2010. REA did several auctions of his amazing collection, but I don't remember if his Rose WaJo was included.

Baseball Rarities 06-11-2020 05:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Hankphenom (Post 1989333)
Gorgeous Rose WaJo, undoubtedly the nicest condition out there. Do you know if Ron Menchine's, which was featured in his baseball postcard book, ever came out after he passed away in 2010. REA did several auctions of his amazing collection, but I don't remember if his Rose WaJo was included.

Menchine's Walter Johnson has never turned up. That is why I said that "three or four known copies." If Mechenine's shows up, then that will be the fourth. If not, I only know of three.

No one knows what happened to it, or to a couple other of his postcards. It is believed that it may have been accidentally thrown out by the family after he passed.

Baseball Rarities 06-11-2020 05:55 PM

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Here is a very difficult HOFer - Cy Young. Given his popularity in 1908, you would think that fans of the day would have purchased more of his postcard, especially considering there were not any other notable stars on the team.

It makes sense why some of the obscure players only have one or two known copies, but the great Cy Young?

Rhotchkiss 06-11-2020 06:02 PM

I missed out (by seconds) on the Rose Co Moonlight Graham that was listed on BST a few years ago. I am still kicking myself for being slow. I would love to see that posted here.

We have a Wagner, Cobb, Wajo, Matty, Young, Plank, Keeler, Waddell, Joss, Crawford, J Collins..... We may be able to put together a virtual HOF set here.

paul 06-11-2020 10:44 PM

So, if a "medium tough" HOFer has 3-4 known Rose Postcards, how many does a "common" HOFer have?

HRBAKER 06-11-2020 10:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Rhotchkiss (Post 1989403)
I missed out (by seconds) on the Rose Co Moonlight Graham that was listed on BST a few years ago. I am still kicking myself for being slow. I would love to see that posted here.

We have a Wagner, Cobb, Wajo, Matty, Young, Plank, Keeler, Waddell, Joss, Crawford, J Collins..... We may be able to put together a virtual HOF set here.

Here's a Chance too that's no longer mine but I still had a scan.

https://i152.photobucket.com/albums/...rankChance.jpg

Baseball Rarities 06-11-2020 11:00 PM

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Originally Posted by paul (Post 1989483)
So, if a "medium tough" HOFer has 3-4 known Rose Postcards, how many does a "common" HOFer have?

Some of the easier Hall of Famers are Chance, Cobb, Lajoie, Plank and Wagner. I am aware of between 6 to 8 of each of these players.

jerrys 06-12-2020 06:41 AM

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Can't skip the no error Mordecai


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autograf 06-12-2020 07:17 AM

Here are (9) of the PC760's that my friend Michael Brockman had in his collection when he recently passed. Not great photos but thought I'd post them.


https://www.net54baseball.com/pictur...ictureid=28489

https://www.net54baseball.com/pictur...ictureid=28488

https://www.net54baseball.com/pictur...ictureid=28487

https://www.net54baseball.com/pictur...ictureid=28486

https://www.net54baseball.com/pictur...ictureid=28485

https://www.net54baseball.com/pictur...ictureid=28484

https://www.net54baseball.com/pictur...ictureid=28483

https://www.net54baseball.com/pictur...ictureid=28482

https://www.net54baseball.com/pictur...ictureid=28481

BeanTown 06-12-2020 11:08 AM

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This thread is really getting some momentum and its very educating. Rose Postcards are off the charts cool.

paul 06-12-2020 05:35 PM

Kevin, thanks for the information. I knew Rose Postcards were tough, but had no idea there were only 6-8 each of the more common HOFers. No wonder why I still don't have any in my collection.

Tom S. 06-12-2020 10:53 PM

Here is my only one from my type set:

https://www.collectorfocus.com/image...e-co.-postcard

It would be neat if we could make a virtual set of these like the T206 commons thread did earlier.

BeanTown 06-12-2020 11:48 PM

If you like a good mystery (now solved). Read up on the Springfield Roses which were found.

http://www.vintageball.com/Rose2.html

Kris19 06-13-2020 04:23 PM

McGinnity
 
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I have one HOFer to contribute.

Baseball Rarities 06-16-2020 12:38 AM

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Originally Posted by Rhotchkiss (Post 1989403)
I missed out (by seconds) on the Rose Co Moonlight Graham that was listed on BST a few years ago. I am still kicking myself for being slow. I would love to see that posted here.

Here is a Moonlight Graham.

phlflyer1 06-16-2020 10:43 AM

A couple more
 
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Here is Eddie Grant and also a blank example

puckpaul 06-16-2020 02:56 PM

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I have one, George Stone.

Rhotchkiss 06-16-2020 03:31 PM

Thanks Kevin. That Graham is so cool.

ValKehl 06-16-2020 03:56 PM

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My type card is this "common":

BeanTown 06-16-2020 09:00 PM

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Some Springfield Rose Postcards. Its the unoffical set, not made at the factory.

Baseball Rarities 09-11-2020 01:04 PM

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Nice Springfield postcards. Although not issued by The Rose Co., they are certainly intriguing. I would love to see any other handmade examples that the teams or their fans created on their own.

Here is one that you do not see too often. I believe that it is the only one that either SGC or PSA has graded.

Rhotchkiss 09-11-2020 04:10 PM

Awesome PC Kevin. A true rarity indeed.

Leon 09-15-2020 09:04 AM

My only one currently.

https://luckeycards.com/ppc760rosegenericbaseball.jpg

Aquarian Sports Cards 06-10-2021 01:41 PM

Looking at both pop reports I only see the Cy Young pictured in this thread. Is that the one that Legendary sold raw in 2004? Anyone know of any raw other Youngs? May have a big announcement shortly! :D

Baseball Rarities 06-10-2021 06:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Aquarian Sports Cards (Post 2112314)
Looking at both pop reports I only see the Cy Young pictured in this thread. Is that the one that Legendary sold raw in 2004? Anyone know of any raw other Youngs? May have a big announcement shortly! :D


No, those are not the same card.

I am only aware of two Young postcards - the SGC 5 and the raw one. Young is a very difficult card to fInd.

conor912 06-10-2021 10:07 PM

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Don’t mind if I do :)

BuzzD 06-11-2021 04:01 AM

Hemphill
 
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Here is another NYAL

Aquarian Sports Cards 06-11-2021 08:26 PM

Thrilled to announce we just signed the contract on 6 new to the hobby, postally unused Rose Co. Postcards.

Christy Mathewson,
Al Bridwell,
Al Schweitzer,
Rebel Oakes,
Admiral Schlei
and only the third known example of Cy Young!

We will have these at Chantilly in July and the National where we will get the Mathewson and Young graded!

Casey2296 06-11-2021 08:30 PM

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Congratulations Scott! Looking forward to seeing them.
As long as were posting RPC's.
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Aquarian Sports Cards 06-20-2021 12:53 PM

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Commons to follow

Bicem 06-20-2021 12:59 PM

Damn!

Baseball Rarities 06-20-2021 02:14 PM

Beautiful. Congratulations!

Aquarian Sports Cards 06-20-2021 03:39 PM

Thanks Kevin. Pretty cool feeling to have something this special. Not even talking about the dollar value, just the fact that these are new to the hobby and, especially the Young, virtually never sold.

Casey2296 06-20-2021 03:43 PM

Congrats Scott, you deserve a consignment like this, something about NTTH makes them even more special. And thanks to the consignor too. I'm sure the Ryan Express will be on a fast track for these cards.

paul 06-20-2021 04:07 PM

Why do the Young and Mathewson not have the city and league printed after the name? Is this a variation in an already rare set?

Baseball Rarities 06-20-2021 04:33 PM

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Originally Posted by paul (Post 2115438)
Why do the Young and Mathewson not have the city and league printed after the name? Is this a variation in an already rare set?

Yes, the second printing of the cards omitted the team and league. The font is also different than the original cards.

Casey2296 06-20-2021 04:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Baseball Rarities (Post 2115444)
Yes, the second printing of the cards omitted the team and league. The font is also different than the original cards.

When was the second printing Kevin?

Baseball Rarities 06-20-2021 06:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Casey2296 (Post 2115445)
When was the second printing Kevin?

Not sure exactly. Of the few “name only” cards that exist, the earliest postmark that I have seen is 1909.

The “main” set of 192 Major Leaguers (12 players for each of the 16 teams) was definitely in production in August of 1908.

Casey2296 06-20-2021 06:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Baseball Rarities (Post 2115473)
Not sure exactly. Of the few “name only” cards exist, the earliest postmark that I have seen is 1909.

Thanks, such an interesting set.


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