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JollyElm 03-01-2022 03:25 PM

Show a Card that is 'Shocking' (whatever that means to you personally)...
 
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Show a card that just rocks your world in a strange way for whatever reason, and explain why it does.

Here's mine:
This is Johnny Keane. He was born in November 1911, which means if this picture was taken during the 1965 season, HE WAS ONLY 53 YEARS OLD at the time...but since the uniform indicates the photo shows him as a member of the Cardinals, it could've been taken anytime between 1961-1964, meaning he was years younger than that!!

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Feeling old yet??? I shudder.

Kutcher55 03-01-2022 03:33 PM

Well he only lived until he was 56 and barely made it to 1967 so life definitely took a toll on him.

jchcollins 03-01-2022 03:43 PM

To me, this card is shocking one because of what I paid for it ($125, paper loss / tape on the back...) but mainly because I never thought I'd own one again. Picked up in December. As a kid in the 1980's I had a nice one that also had paper loss on the back, but I traded it away for something...

https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/202...965603a2a8.jpg


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Harliduck 03-01-2022 03:54 PM

Wow, ol' Johnny is only a year older than me...haha...he looks 77 at best! Hard life for sure...

That's a good lookin' 55 Aaron. I've had a few come and go and I feel the same about the one I currently own...I still get giddy on pretty much any Hank Aaron...when I was a kid in the late 70s and early 80s he was my idol and to have his card was about the same as having a Ruth...unobtainable. Seeing an older brother of a buddy who had a wrinkled up 76 card with him as a Brewer seemed outrageous...that kid was a GOD. My first Hank was a 69 Topps card I got when I was 15...I will never forget that...felt like I had arrived...:)




Every time I see this card I just can't believe he let a photographer take his picture with his hair like this, classic hat head. I would have flat out refused!

https://i.ibb.co/nmjKYvw/66-Vic.jpg

steve B 03-01-2022 05:04 PM

I wonder if I can make a fantasy card with a built in taser....

Thank you, I'll be here all the week.:D

Exhibitman 03-02-2022 01:38 PM

This was shocking to us kids:

https://photos.imageevent.com/exhibi...C%20Martin.jpg

And of course:

https://th.bing.com/th/id/R.1716928b...pid=ImgRaw&r=0

ALR-bishop 03-02-2022 02:43 PM

Weird card from a serious set. What if it had been Mantle or Mays :)

https://hosting.photobucket.com/imag...-13_092812.jpg

GasHouseGang 03-02-2022 03:16 PM

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I don't know if I find it shocking that someone would trim such iconic sports cards, or that PSA didn't notice.

John1941 03-02-2022 04:08 PM

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You think Johnny Keane looked old? Here's Earl Weaver at 58:

Exhibitman 03-02-2022 05:23 PM

Weaver and Keane look like they've been married for decades; you know, just don't give a damn anymore about their appearances.

ASF123 03-02-2022 06:49 PM

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Originally Posted by ALR-bishop (Post 2201584)
Weird card from a serious set. What if it had been Mantle or Mays :)

https://hosting.photobucket.com/imag...-13_092812.jpg

I’ve always wondered if there’s a story behind this one. Anyone know?

John1941 03-02-2022 07:06 PM

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Originally Posted by ASF123 (Post 2201664)
I’ve always wondered if there’s a story behind this one. Anyone know?

There's a thread about it from 2019, but it doesn't look like they decided on anything.

https://www.net54baseball.com/showthread.php?t=273327

philliesfan 03-02-2022 08:22 PM

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Hard to believe Bob Nieman was 35 in 1962. Looks closer to 55 or 65.
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Harliduck 03-02-2022 08:50 PM

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Originally Posted by philliesfan (Post 2201686)
Hard to believe Bob Nieman was 35 in 1962. Looks closer to 55 or 65.
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He even looks older in his 61 Topps card. Crazy. Also died young at 58...

Cliff Bowman 03-02-2022 08:52 PM

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Originally Posted by philliesfan (Post 2201686)
Hard to believe Bob Nieman was 35 in 1962. Looks closer to 55 or 65.

I resemble that remark. He looks 85 to me.

philliesfan 03-02-2022 09:00 PM

I resemble that remark.
Cliff - You are a stooge

Pilon 03-03-2022 10:19 AM

I apologize in advance as my photo posting skills are non existent but the 1960 Lou Johnson card is a bit shocking.

D. Bergin 03-03-2022 10:50 AM

Not any particular card, but I think it was shocking for me when I first got into collecting boxing in the 1990's to discover that with very few exceptions (ie. Isaac Murphy), the only black athletes who were ever pictured on Trading cards in America in the late 19th Century and early 20th Century, were almost exclusively boxers.

As far as "shocking" baseball cards...I'm having a hard time thinking of anything relevant to me. The Billy Ripken card was more funny, then anything to me.

Maybe when I was a kid and I ran across the 1975 Zoilo Versalles MVP card with Willie Mays....and I loudly said to myself "WHO?"

https://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/dz4AA...o-0/s-l300.jpg

Other then that, if you go into the Non-Sports card realm...there's some 1938 Gum Inc. "Horrors Of War" cards that are legitimately shocking.

D. Bergin 03-03-2022 11:02 AM

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Originally Posted by Pilon (Post 2201822)
I apologize in advance as my photo posting skills are non existent but the 1960 Lou Johnson card is a bit shocking.


Yeah, I see that.


https://i.psacard.com/cardfacts/1960...0012.jpg?h=600

Kutcher55 03-04-2022 09:52 AM

Not sure if this qualifies as shocking, but the Moose looks shocked in this card, as though he sees the ghost of Babe Ruth and realize he can never live up to that standard.

https://i.imgur.com/I6E4kXY.jpg

Gr8Beldini 03-04-2022 03:36 PM

You wouldn't understand unless you're my age (58) give or take. Buying a pack of cards in April '71 and seeing this for the first time. There was never anything like it. All of the other cards are upright. This one is sideways. Never saw an action baseball card before. Topps never made action cards before... and what action! This isn't just some in-game action card. This was truly spectacular. AND (icing on the cake) the trophy! My 7 year old friends were always chasing the trophy guys. We didn't know better. We thought these were the best guys (hence the trophy). Pulling this from a pack and seeing it for the first time was stunning. Editor's note: In case my photo doesn't attach properly, I'm (obviously) speaking of the '71 Munson.

https://image.invaluable.com/housePh...8_original.jpg

Gr8Beldini 03-04-2022 03:39 PM

You wouldn't understand unless you're my age (58) give or take. Buying a pack of cards in April '71 and seeing this for the first time. There was never anything like it. All of the other cards are upright. This one is sideways. Never saw an action baseball card before. Topps never made action cards before... and what action! This isn't just some in-game action card. This was truly spectacular. AND (icing on the cake) the trophy! My 7 year old friends were always chasing the trophy guys. We didn't know better. We thought these were the best guys (hence the trophy). Pulling this from a pack and seeing it for the first time was stunning. Editor's note: In case my photo doesn't attach properly, I'm (obviously) speaking of the '71 Munson.
https://www.google.com/url?sa=i&url=...AAAAAdAAAAABAW

Gr8Beldini 03-05-2022 08:16 AM

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Originally Posted by GasHouseGang (Post 2201602)
I don't know if I find it shocking that someone would trim such iconic sports cards, or that PSA didn't notice.

What would happen if the card owner sent it to PSA for either a re-grade or just to re-holder the card? Would PSA turn around and now say, "it's not the legit 6 we told you it was. Turns out it's trimmed." PSA authenticated the card and the card was subsequently purchased based on that authentication. Are they liable in any way to the current holder?

Exhibitman 03-06-2022 08:29 AM

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Originally Posted by Gr8Beldini (Post 2202565)
What would happen if the card owner sent it to PSA for either a re-grade or just to re-holder the card? Would PSA turn around and now say, "it's not the legit 6 we told you it was. Turns out it's trimmed." PSA authenticated the card and the card was subsequently purchased based on that authentication. Are they liable in any way to the current holder?

PSA thinks not, but it hasn't been court-tested.

jchcollins 03-08-2022 10:55 AM

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Originally Posted by Gr8Beldini (Post 2202342)
All of the other cards are upright. This one is sideways.

Munson is not the only horizontal '71 Topps card. Yes, most were upright - but there are others in that format, I'm not sure how many total - but Rudy May, Bud Harrelson, Jim Fregosi, and Roy White come to mind.

You are correct in that the Munson was the first Topps "action" format card in a set that included them. Topps would go on to use "In Action" photos while returning mostly to portraits for base cards in 1972, and then of course the '73 set is mostly action - with a variety of both good and terrible shots of that genre which make it pretty much it's own animal.

John1941 03-08-2022 01:39 PM

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Originally Posted by jchcollins (Post 2203550)
Munson is not the only horizontal '71 Topps card. Yes, most were upright - but there are others in that format, I'm not sure how many total - but Rudy May, Bud Harrelson, Jim Fregosi, and Roy White come to mind.

I think he's saying that he hadn't seen any horizontal cards in previous years.

jchcollins 03-08-2022 03:56 PM

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Originally Posted by John1941 (Post 2203599)
I think he's saying that he hadn't seen any horizontal cards in previous years.

Ok. Action shots were new to '71 Topps. Horizontal formatting was not. But makes sense that a '70's kid would not have seen a 1960 Topps card I guess.

JollyElm 03-08-2022 04:09 PM

What's weird is the 1971 Topps Thurman Munson card can be 'officially' called the first regular season Topps action card, because it is #5 in that set and the four cards preceding it numerically are all 'normal' cards.

rats60 03-09-2022 09:19 AM

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Originally Posted by JollyElm (Post 2203647)
What's weird is the 1971 Topps Thurman Munson card can be 'officially' called the first regular season Topps action card, because it is #5 in that set and the four cards preceding it numerically are all 'normal' cards.

There were several other action cards in the first series, so unless Munson was the first one pulled it wouldn't have been the first. To me the first action card was the 1970 Bud Harrelson. It showed him signing autographs at a game. That was surprising to me when I pulled it. When I saw more action cards in 1971, it was no big deal.

CobbSpikedMe 03-09-2022 02:43 PM

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This one came to mind for me.



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JollyElm 03-09-2022 02:45 PM

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JollyElm 03-27-2022 03:03 PM

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If this photo was taken during the 1964 season, Jack was a mere 35 year-old man at most...

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...but, since the picture seems to be from the same photoshoot as his 1964 card (meaning a 1963 shoot date, most likely), he was just a 34 year-old man (at most) at the time...

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Feeling old yet?

Snowman 04-04-2022 12:38 AM

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Originally Posted by GasHouseGang (Post 2201602)
I don't know if I find it shocking that someone would trim such iconic sports cards, or that PSA didn't notice.

Oof! That Mantle... ouch.

However, that Wilt is most likely not trimmed, in my opinion. I have 3 of these Wilts, and a full set of the 61 Fleer cards. I'm very familiar with this set and have graded a bunch of these. The variance in size from the factory is remarkable (at least 3/16", maybe even a full 1/4" variance - it's THAT bad). Also, a large percentage of these have that horribly awkward diamond tilt like this one has. The bottom edge has the tilt too, it's just obscured by the bottom bumper, but if you look closely, it's there.

JollyElm 04-19-2022 06:42 PM

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For my money, this is just one of the most ghoulishly creepy looking pictures to ever appear on a baseball card. It gives me nightmares. He doesn't look human...

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Harliduck 04-19-2022 07:01 PM

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Originally Posted by JollyElm (Post 2216904)
For my money, this is just one of the most ghoulishly creepy looking pictures to ever appear on a baseball card. It gives me nightmares. He doesn't look human...

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I remember getting a beat up version of that card as a kid...first thought...COOL a COBB...then staring at it...whoa...trade anyone??

carlsonjok 04-20-2022 08:01 PM

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Originally Posted by JollyElm (Post 2216904)
For my money, this is just one of the most ghoulishly creepy looking pictures to ever appear on a baseball card. It gives me nightmares. He doesn't look human...

Attachment 513059

Brooks would like a word....

https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-yEi1Y6Fst...y%2BBrooks.jpg

mortimer brewster 04-21-2022 08:50 AM

1964 Jim Umbricht
 
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How about a card back? This was pretty sad for a child to read.

sthoemke 10-17-2022 01:36 AM

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This card shocked me when I was a kid

Gr8Beldini 10-17-2022 11:45 AM

Billy Martin giving the finger on a baseball card is shocking? I'd be shocked if he wasn't giving the finger.

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Originally Posted by Exhibitman (Post 2201560)


Gr8Beldini 10-17-2022 11:50 AM

https://www.ebay.com/itm/38517149486...Bk9SR8zt8_D8YA
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Originally Posted by Harliduck (Post 2201215)
Wow, ol' Johnny is only a year older than me...haha...he looks 77 at best! Hard life for sure...

That's a good lookin' 55 Aaron. I've had a few come and go and I feel the same about the one I currently own...I still get giddy on pretty much any Hank Aaron...when I was a kid in the late 70s and early 80s he was my idol and to have his card was about the same as having a Ruth...unobtainable. Seeing an older brother of a buddy who had a wrinkled up 76 card with him as a Brewer seemed outrageous...that kid was a GOD. My first Hank was a 69 Topps card I got when I was 15...I will never forget that...felt like I had arrived...:)




Every time I see this card I just can't believe he let a photographer take his picture with his hair like this, classic hat head. I would have flat out refused!

https://i.ibb.co/nmjKYvw/66-Vic.jpg


raulus 10-17-2022 06:40 PM

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Not technically a card but a lithograph sold at the stick in 1960…

For those not familiar, the reference to reeg is referring to Bill Rigney, the manager at the time.

And naturally, mocking a player’s accent isn’t something that is encouraged these days.

JollyElm 01-08-2023 01:10 PM

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I'm sorry, but could a player possibly look any more like an absolute psychopath????

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ALR-bishop 01-08-2023 01:34 PM

Not a card, but pretty creepy. What was Joe thinking about ?

https://hosting.photobucket.com/albu...590&fit=bounds

frankhardy 01-08-2023 02:34 PM

I might not be shocked, but I crack up every time I see this card.



https://i.postimg.cc/6q8gMKV5/1983-T...-Armstrong.jpg

JollyElm 01-08-2023 02:46 PM

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Originally Posted by frankhardy (Post 2302291)
I might not be shocked, but I crack up every time I see this card.

https://i.postimg.cc/6q8gMKV5/1983-T...-Armstrong.jpg

Double psychopath???

Exhibitman 01-08-2023 03:26 PM

http://www.net54baseball.com/attachm...7&d=1673208512https://media2.giphy.com/media/2vKpPlpyHKWm4/giphy.gif

smrtn240 01-08-2023 06:40 PM

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How about this one

JollyElm 01-08-2023 06:50 PM

He loved rain delays...because there was nothing but wet Beavers.

Thank you! I'll be here all week.

smrtn240 01-08-2023 07:10 PM

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Here is one from the famous cricketer H. Harry Butt.
Ok I'm done now

brob28 01-09-2023 06:06 PM

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Originally Posted by JollyElm (Post 2216904)
For my money, this is just one of the most ghoulishly creepy looking pictures to ever appear on a baseball card. It gives me nightmares. He doesn't look human...

Attachment 513059

Agreed as a kid, that card gave me the creeps. This '77 Sanguillen card was shocking (still is) when I pulled it from a wax pack. Must have been late on a Friday when this one got through QC.


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