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Shoeless Moe 04-09-2021 09:18 AM

Did the genuises at PSA slab this upside down?
 
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https://www.ebay.com/itm/1931-MLB-Al...p2047675.l2557

perezfan 04-09-2021 10:49 AM

Apparently so. Wish their "mistakes" were limited to things this trivial.

Still very sloppy and unprofessional. Not sure what's uglier... upside-down tickets or crumpled baggies holding diagonal tickets off-center.

This piece would've looked much better in a screw-down or any simple toploader. Yuck!

prestigecollectibles 04-09-2021 03:26 PM

Yep, it's upside down.
Also, the ticket was used for four games. Nov. 7, 8, 14 and 15th

doug.goodman 04-09-2021 05:03 PM

I didn't realize that there were any geniuses employed by that opinion seller, but on a brighter note, it's now a one of one, upside down slab error...

D. Bergin 04-11-2021 04:27 PM

Maybe the ticket is right side up.............and the slab, is upside down. ;)

egri 04-11-2021 05:21 PM

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Originally Posted by D. Bergin (Post 2091869)
Maybe the ticket is right side up.............and the slab, is upside down. ;)

That's probably what PSA's customer service reps will say.

Shoeless Moe 04-21-2021 12:21 PM

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PSA morons got this one wrong too, was he not in Pinstripes for his Sept 24th game? or Sept 26, 29 and 30 for that matter????

Shoeless Moe 04-21-2021 12:22 PM

and the links...

Ticket:

https://www.ebay.com/itm/22443402711...oAAOSwLQ5ggD08

Ruth 1934 game log:

https://www.baseball-reference.com/p...&t=b&year=1934


and seller(PWCC) wants $4500........for what is basically a $300-400 dollar Ticket

Aquarian Sports Cards 04-21-2021 12:29 PM

Moe, those were away games so not in pinstripes.

Steve D 04-21-2021 02:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Aquarian Sports Cards (Post 2095260)
Moe, those were away games so not in pinstripes.


He did have a plate appearance on Sep 24, a home game against the Red Sox. He walked, so not credited with an at bat.

So, technically, the flip on the Sep 23 ticket stub is correct. The Babe had his final at bat in pinstripes on Sep 23.

Steve

Aquarian Sports Cards 04-21-2021 02:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Steve D (Post 2095304)
He did have a plate appearance on Sep 24, a home game against the Red Sox. He walked, so not credited with an at bat.

So, technically, the flip on the Sep 23 ticket stub is correct. The Babe had his final at bat in pinstripes on Sep 23.

Steve

Good catch I was thinking the ticket was the 24th. Poor observational skills on my part! I was 3/4 right though which is still a solid "C"

Shoeless Moe 04-22-2021 07:27 AM

Sorry but he had an AB on the 24th. I don't give a shit if he walked. A walk is an AB.

Steve D 04-22-2021 04:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Shoeless Moe (Post 2095482)
Sorry but he had an AB on the 24th. I don't give a shit if he walked. A walk is an AB.


Read the rule book. A player does NOT get credited with an at bat when they walk. They get only a plate appearance.

Here it is on MLB.com (http://www.mlb.com/glossary/standard-stats/at-bat):

At-bat (AB)

Definition

An official at-bat comes when a batter reaches base via a fielder's choice, hit or an error (not including catcher's interference) or when a batter is put out on a non-sacrifice. (Whereas a plate appearance refers to each completed turn batting, regardless of the result.)

At-bats are used as the denominator when determining batting average and slugging percentage. Players who bat higher in the order will typically finish the season with more at-bats than players who hit toward the bottom. Similarly, players who walk infrequently also typically record a higher-than-usual number of at-bats in a season, because walks do not count as at-bats.



Steve

Steve D 04-22-2021 05:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Shoeless Moe (Post 2095482)
Sorry but he had an AB on the 24th. I don't give a shit if he walked. A walk is an AB.


While the flip on that Sep 23rd ticket stub is correct in that Babe Ruth's final Yankee home at-bat was that day, I do not believe that should really be that big of a factor. To me, it's just a way to make that game more important than it perhaps, should be.

I am much more interested in a player's last home appearance with the team. Say for instance, that The Babe didn't even get up to the plate in the game on Sep 24th. As it was, he started the game in RF, walked in the first inning, and was removed for a pinch-runner (Myril Hoag). What if he had been pinch hit for in the first inning, after having played the top half of the inning in RF; It would still be his last appearance (and game started) as a Yankee at Yankee Stadium. To me, that is the more important milestone.

Steve

Shoeless Moe 04-22-2021 07:39 PM

You know what you could do with your rule book.

I'm not figuring batting batting averages here guy.

Ruth stepped in the batters box, faced the pitcher, got 4 balls and walked.

THAT was his last AT BAT as a Yankee in Yankee Stadium as a player.

David Atkatz 04-29-2021 11:12 AM

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Originally Posted by Shoeless Moe (Post 2095676)
You know what you could do with your rule book.

I'm not figuring batting batting averages here guy.

Ruth stepped in the batters box, faced the pitcher, got 4 balls and walked.

THAT was his last AT BAT as a Yankee in Yankee Stadium as a player.

No. As was so aptly pointed out. Regardless of what you say, or how you feel, it was not an AB.

perezfan 04-29-2021 12:18 PM

To Steve's point... Let's just say it was Babe's last "appearance" as a Yankee in Yankee Stadium. This does not change the desirability much, if at all IMHO.


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