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Lordstan 06-04-2013 11:00 PM

Newest addition

https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4414/...c85c3d17_b.jpg

mr2686 06-05-2013 07:50 AM

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Thought I'd post a couple of new ones. Remember, there's no right or wrong when it comes to colors of matting, but there is good and better. Sometimes it's just down right hard especially with Perez Steele cards or magazines because old magazines have faded colors and PS have some weird colors on some of them. Case in point, I've seen several Bancroft PS cards matted and most people use the weird blue that's in the background. Here's one I just did where I used more of a sandy skin tone with a color to match the hat brim and team letter for the inside mat. For the magazines, yellow always seems to go good with green and fortunately there was yellow lettering on the covers. Dark blue was used to match the Yankee hats and undershirt.

Lordstan 06-05-2013 08:13 PM

Mike,
I agree with you on the good and better comment.
I like the Bancroft very very much. I like what you did with the mags as well, though I might've gone a different direction. I prefer the off white colors to the starker yellow and I probably would've gone with a cream/ivory inner mat.

I just got and did this tonight. Even though I'm a Mets fan, I've always wanted a Pujols. Such a great player, and so far not implicated in any funny business, on or off the field.
I had the black fillet from another frame and I thought it would go well with the red inner mat for the Cards. If I had gray on hand, I think It would've looked nice, but the black worked pretty well I think.

https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4378/...e9b7f9a1_b.jpg

best,
Mark

mr2686 06-06-2013 05:24 AM

Very nice Pujols, red and black always look cool in framing. Yeah, sometimes a direction on the matting depends on what else you have or are going to have with it. I've got two Duke Snider magazines that I recently matted using a white outer mat and a red inner mat to bring out the red in the covers. I normally would have (and I think it would have looked better) used a white or grey outer mat and a blue inner mat for those, but I have so much Dodger stuff close together with those same colors that I wanted something different.
That brings me to another point for those that are just starting to mat and get there stuff displayed. Always, and I know it's hard, try to plan waaaaaaay ahead on how things will be displayed and with what. Sometimes you kinda paint yourself in to a corner with the type of matting or framing you're using. I had some frames I wanted to use for awhile but they just wouldn't go with what else was on the wall. I eventually found a way to move what was already there in to another room and that opened up a bunch of possibilities.

mcgwirecom 06-10-2013 11:27 AM

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Just finished this one. Found a sweet Bill Haley autograph so I matted it with a nice postcard photo from 1956 and an original Rock Around the Clock single. Just added a few decals since i felt it looked a bit bare.

Lordstan 06-10-2013 11:46 AM

Randal.

Great job. That looks fantastic.

2 questions.

How did you cut the mat for the record?
How did you affix the record?

Mark

mcgwirecom 06-10-2013 12:21 PM

LOL I figured someone would ask that.

They sell a mat cutter for circles. It does a good job but you have to cut from the front of the mat. So you should put something down so the mechanism doesn't leave rub marks on the mat as you turn the circle. You need to go around a few times. I found it online for around $50 I think. I lost the website, just search circle mat cutters.

I used some 3M command adhesive tabs for hanging stuff on the wall. You pull the bottom part and its supposed to release. Anyway its a double sided padded type of tab. I put it on the run-off part of the vinyl. I don't think it was bother the record but then again I don't really care. Supposed to be like a post it type thing for walls.

mr2686 06-10-2013 12:38 PM

Really nice Randall! Great color choices and layout. I've seen that 3M tape before but didn't think about using it. I might just have to rethink that!

mcgwirecom 06-10-2013 02:30 PM

Yeah I'd use either that or try and find that gummy stuff they attach credit cards to the paper with. Like a rubber cement.

mcgwirecom 06-24-2013 06:21 PM

I found the site where I bought the circle mat cutter, less than $50 which is cheap.

http://matsforframing.com/add-cutters.htm

Lordstan 06-29-2013 07:54 AM

My newest pickup in a trade from Gnaz.(Thanks Greg)
I always wanted one of these, but they always seemed to come up when I didn't have the money. Worked out a great trade for it.

Here is what it looked like when I got it.
Ty Cobb check

http://www.net54baseball.com/attachm...1&d=1370627947


I don't care for the PS cards framed, so I removed the check and downloaded/printed a print of one of my favorite Kreindler's to go with it. Here is what it looks like after I reframed it.
The outer black mat and fillet came with the frame. I toyed with using a more simple large double mat, but I think the extra layers really make it pop more.

I think a bit more fitting for the "King of Swing"

https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4357/...5432c7e9_b.jpg
Best,
Mark

mr2686 06-29-2013 09:29 AM

Very nice Mark. That's gonna look great in the cave. By the way, what's the date on the check?

Lordstan 06-29-2013 09:38 AM

Thanks Mike.
Date is Sept 14, 1948. $6K was a lot of money back then. I mean it still is, but was even more so, relatively speaking, at that time. I wonder if this was back taxes or just the amount due for that year.

mr2686 07-04-2013 10:24 AM

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Put some b-day gift certificates to my local framer to good use this week. I have a wall in the closet area of my memorabilia room that is not easily seen unless you step in, turn around and look up. I wasn't going to put anything there but then decided to make it an area for autos I didn't want taking up valuable wall space in the main areas...of course, I chose HOF umpires and executives (I know, no respect). It will be a cool surprise for anyone taking the time to try and find them while checking out my room. Here's what I just got back along with my Robinson, Hodges, Alston and Reese which are going on my 55 Dodger wall.
Pictures used were either existing Perez Steele that I had on hand, or printed Perez photos and printed photographs that were high resolution scans found on the net. Pretty cheap way to go.

David Atkatz 07-04-2013 01:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Lordstan (Post 1129290)

Lou Gehrig day Ticket matted with a print I made of a Kreindler Masterpiece.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v2...4-15195128.jpg

Hey! I own that Kreindler masterpiece! Shouldn't you need my permission to reproduce it?
If so, I hereby give it.

Nice matting & framing job, too.

baseballart 07-04-2013 02:18 PM

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Originally Posted by David Atkatz (Post 1154286)
Hey! I own that Kreindler masterpiece! Shouldn't you need my permission to reproduce it?
If so, I hereby give it.

....

David

Copyright to a painting remains with the artist, unless the artist has sold the copyright along with the original work.

Max

Lordstan 07-04-2013 02:46 PM

David,
I'm glad you correctly identified the original as a "masterpiece". If you hadn't, I would've been forced to come to your home and remove it from your possession, for the crime of not being worthy.
As far as your permission, I guess I hadn't thought of that, but I'm glad you approve of the respect I gave it. Like all things Kreindler, It looks better in person. :D

Mike,
I really like the way you did them. I'm not really a big fan of framing the PS cards, but I do think they look nice in the size your using them.

I absolutely love the Hodges pic you chose. Very dramatic.

Keep up the good work.

mr2686 07-04-2013 05:24 PM

Thanks Mark. I've been trying to do a variety of stuff...signed magazines, photos, photos with autos and PS, but the PS's are mainly for 8x10 in areas where that's all that will fit (also some thin, long frames that only fit certain areas are getting the PS treatment as well.
I can get about 6 more things done tomorrow but that will probably be 5 more magazines and possibly one photo with 2 autographs. I found a great photo of Jimmie Foxx and Connie Mack that I want to have done and it will be a great chance to get two HOF autos up in one spot.

mr2686 07-20-2013 11:16 AM

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No frames yet but just got these matted. Finally getting my Foxx, Mack and Paige up on the walls.

Lordstan 08-01-2013 09:50 PM

Wow, Mike.
I didn't see your last post before today.
Very nice job with this group. I really like the Foxx-Mack duo.
Mark

Lordstan 08-01-2013 09:54 PM

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Ok here is my newest work.
I posted the check pick up in the auto section, but here is the completed framed piece.
Attachment 108484

Sorry about the Flash.

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CollectiblesNJ 08-01-2013 10:03 PM

Just looking through this thread. Great work on the frames. I pay considerably more to have my stuff framed + matted regularly. This might inspire me to take a shot myself. Just curious when you make these displays are you sure to keep preservation in mind by keeping to ACID free matting products?

I cannot tell you how many matted items I find in lots that are browned behind the matting from age. Sad really.

Lordstan 08-01-2013 10:30 PM

All my mats are the highest quality archival cotton rag. I usually spend about $20 per sheet at Dick Blick Art Supply.
I don't use UV glass., because, in my mancave, I installed only LED bulbs in all the fixtures. I also only have one very small window. So, no UV from lights and very little UV from daylight.
I would encourage you to give it a shot. It's fun, creative, and can save you a boatload of money.

Sent from my Galaxy Nexus using Tapatalk 2

CollectiblesNJ 08-01-2013 11:37 PM

I see you definitely have all your bases covered. My latest acquisition was probably too big to have done myself. 38 x 30 but next time I pick up a collection of like 8 x 10s I just might try it. I am not very "handy" but doesn't seem like it would be too difficult at all.

mr2686 08-02-2013 06:59 AM

Mark, that Wagner looks awesome! Love that the blue inner mat really brings out the blue in the print.
Kevin, I agree with Mark. When it comes to matting, I have 3 words of advice...Archival, Archival, Archival. Acid-free everything should be used, from the matt itself to anything that is touching your memorabilia in any way.
LED lighting is also a must as well as UV glass when natural light is present.
I sure wish other people would post on this thread. I'd love to see what people have been doing and exchange ideas on what looks good.

Lordstan 08-02-2013 10:49 AM

Thanks Mike. I went with grey and blue for the inner mats to bring out the two dominant colors in the photo. It looks waaaaaaaaaay nicer in person. Maybe I'll let you visit, as long as you promise not to try and steal my Stengel signed Sport Mag.:D

CollectiblesNJ 08-02-2013 01:53 PM

http://img.tapatalk.com/d/13/08/03/du6y7ade.jpg

This what I got done professionally my 38 x 22 in 40 x 25 frame. Cost $100 bucks and is very basic. If I was not selling it I would probably have gone a little higher end.

Could you have framed something like this yourself?

Lordstan 08-02-2013 04:02 PM

Kevin,
The only limiting step to square cut matting is size. The mat cutter I have will cut up to 40in mats. There are one available to the public that will do bigger, but they can cost significantly more. If you will be selling the items, it may be worth putting some of the profits into a bigger cutter.
I qualified "square cut" as may of the fancy cuts you see in framing require special tools, like those for round and oval openings.
Hope that helps.
Mark

daves_resale_shop 08-02-2013 04:23 PM

Alexander Cartwright
 
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Got this 1874 Letterpress copy of a Cartwright letter back from my framer today...The letter had a weird cut which would make it difficult to matt out in its entirety... My framer had a few creative ideas (photo, rules & signature), which pleased me just the same!

mr2686 08-02-2013 04:55 PM

Great job David. That looks very very cool and I love the idea of adding the rules along with the photo and sig.

mr2686 08-02-2013 05:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Lordstan (Post 1165702)
Thanks Mike. I went with grey and blue for the inner mats to bring out the two dominant colors in the photo. It looks waaaaaaaaaay nicer in person. Maybe I'll let you visit, as long as you promise not to try and steal my Stengel signed Sport Mag.:D

No promises :D:D Ya know, it's funny but I haven't even come close to finding another legit Stengal on a magazine. I think I'll have to wait until someone sells of their collection to find one.

Lordstan 08-23-2013 12:40 PM

I am sooo psyched to add this to the basement wall(once finally completed that is.)

I recently obtained an original movie poster along with signatures of the 3 stars of the movie Inherit the Wind. The 1960 version starring Spencer Tracy, Fredric March, and Gene Kelly is my favorite movie of all time.
The poster is approx 14 x 18. The whole framed display is 20 x 24.

https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4378/...18f2a51e_b.jpg
https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4391/...345d3b2e_b.jpg
https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4365/...dc9dac0d_b.jpg
https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4378/...d24e46b1_b.jpg

Michael B 08-24-2013 05:14 PM

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Several people have mentioned how they suspend items behind mats. My main concern when doing anything like this is how to do it archivally. All of the mat boards and backing boards I use are archival and inert. I will also use archival photo mounts or polyester photo mounts, depending if selling or keeping. The polyester ones are safe, but archival better. One item that can be used for larger items is 'See-Thru Mounting Strips made by Lineco. These are designed to hold any size item and can be cut to size. The come in packages of 60 and each one is 4 inches long. The front is thick mylar of 1 1/4 inches. The back has an acid free strip with acid free adhesive. The back is 7/8 of an inch. 3/4" is visible on the front with a 1/8" deep space to slip the item behind the mylar. When you slip the item into the space there is a 1/2" strip of the mylar visible on the front. If your item has a large margin that you would mat out then this strip would be invisible. If the margins are much smaller then this would be visible, though you could trim the mylar from the top to reduce the overhang. You can also shorten them if you wish. Use three of these on an item, sides and bottom and it wouldn't move even if dropped. See my scans below. The line on the back scan shows the release strip covering the adhesive. If someone would like a sample drop me a pm and I can drop one in an envelope. No, I have no connection to the company or any economic incentive to promote them. I believe in helping people learn how to treat their items so they last.

Rickyy 09-03-2013 01:34 AM

Here's my latest. I framed my new old stock 55 Dodgers Schaefer Beer table sign...these are tough to find.

http://i74.photobucket.com/albums/i2...ps62c88006.jpg

Ricky Y

Lordstan 09-30-2013 10:52 PM

MY most recent
 
Another movie poster for the HT. This one is a new reprint that I cut out spaces for the Cooper and Wright signatures.

https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4336/...0870ba1a_b.jpg
https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4381/...62b2012b_b.jpg
https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4350/...43a2b885_b.jpg

mr2686 10-01-2013 08:40 AM

I like what you did there Mark. That's similar to what I would have like to have done, but lack of wall space had made me have to cut out certain projects. How's the cave coming along?

Lordstan 10-01-2013 12:13 PM

Mike,
The cave is almost there. The carpet went in this past weekend. Now we are completing some final trim work. Next is furniture for the theater section. I will be completing the wall hangings with the movie posters for the HT section as well as the sports stuff in the "cave" area shortly after that. It should be ready for public viewing in the next month or so, by the time everything is done.
Best,
Mark

Lordstan 11-01-2013 04:37 PM

Almost done with the Mancave and HT.
One last movie themed item. Another of my favorites.
Robin Hood with Flynn, Rathbone, and De Havilland

https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4417/...6187d40e_b.jpg
https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4422/...7bb366d0_b.jpg
https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4384/...3b45ddcc_b.jpg

HRBAKER 11-01-2013 04:59 PM

Sports Stuff (Framed)
 
Here's a shot of some of my framed stuff hanging on the wall.

http://i152.photobucket.com/albums/s...ages/BASE1.jpg

Scott Garner 11-01-2013 05:50 PM

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Originally Posted by HRBAKER (Post 1202023)
Here's a shot of some of my framed stuff hanging on the wall.

http://i152.photobucket.com/albums/s...ages/BASE1.jpg

Wow! Cool room, Jeff!

Lordstan 11-01-2013 06:51 PM

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Originally Posted by HRBAKER (Post 1202023)
Here's a shot of some of my framed stuff hanging on the wall.

http://i152.photobucket.com/albums/s...ages/BASE1.jpg

Nicely Done.
Did you mat/frame them yourself?

HRBAKER 11-01-2013 07:22 PM

Some of them, not nearly all.
I have some with quirky openings (ex., home plate shaped) that I had a frame shop cut the mats.

SikSyko 11-01-2013 07:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lordstan (Post 1202010)
Almost done with the Mancave and HT.
One last movie themed item. Another of my favorites.
Robin Hood with Flynn, Rathbone, and De Havilland

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v2...RobinHood1.jpg

Quote:

Originally Posted by HRBAKER (Post 1202023)
Here's a shot of some of my framed stuff hanging on the wall.

http://i152.photobucket.com/albums/s...ages/BASE1.jpg

Lordstan love your Robin Hood display and HRBAKER love your room.

HRBAKER 11-01-2013 07:48 PM

I have shown some of these before. Here is a Roger Maris cut (scorecard) that I framed with a "home plate" shaped opening along with a traditional 3 x 5:

http://i152.photobucket.com/albums/s...r/DSC02714.jpghttp://i152.photobucket.com/albums/s...UTOS/ROGER.jpg

Here are Eddie Collins and Frank Baker 3 x 5s framed with 8 x 10s and a Turkey Red (T3) card:

http://i152.photobucket.com/albums/s...r/DSC02717.jpghttp://i152.photobucket.com/albums/s...r/DSC02719.jpg

Here is a Walter Johnson and Honus Wagner check framed with a Conlon photograph of each:

http://i152.photobucket.com/albums/s...heckplease.jpg

A DiMaggio Brothers piece:

http://i152.photobucket.com/albums/s...OS/3dimags.jpg

...and the Waner Brothers as well:

http://i152.photobucket.com/albums/s...OS/Waners1.jpg

A Mel Ott GPC framed with the "home plate" shape:

http://i152.photobucket.com/albums/s.../AUTOS/Ott.jpg

A Sarazen Nelson Snead and Hogan Masters Champions piece:

http://i152.photobucket.com/albums/s...r/BST/golf.jpg

Teamgluck 12-05-2014 03:33 PM

Wow thats some great stuff Jeff

Lordstan 07-12-2015 11:46 PM

A couple of my more recent framed items. Some I posted before. The last 2 are brand new....

https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4400/...4e3f55c6_b.jpg
https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4350/...5166054d_b.jpg
https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4357/...5432c7e9_b.jpg

I didn't use flash on the last 2, but I should have as it really makes the mat colors pop.

https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4382/...843bf5d3_b.jpg
https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4375/...8ee9ca9b_b.jpg

Scott Garner 07-13-2015 04:29 AM

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I like this recent frame and matting job that I had done by a local framer celebrating Johnny Vander Meer's 2nd consecutive no-hitter in 1938

Lordstan 09-14-2017 09:49 PM

My Newest Framed item.
Got the check early this year, but just did the framing

https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4419/...c1e4f8cb_h.jpg

mr2686 09-15-2017 04:42 AM

I love the way the Walter Johnson came out. That will look great on your wall.

yankeesjetsfan 09-15-2017 03:21 PM

I love these. Have been wanting to try and have a couple of 8x10's and other pictures and posters matted and framed. I know they are expensive to have done and that's why I had thought about doing it myself, but I am not very handy with my hands so I never bothered. I am jealous of those who can do it and do such a fabulous job at it too.

Mike


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