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theshleps 07-25-2023 12:52 AM

2024 HOF autographs
 
Since I mainly collect autographs of hofers and prices can skyrocket once folks are elected I like to get examples pre elction if possible. This coming year the following are looked at by the eras committee. Any ideas who may be on the ballot and have a good chance?
CONTEMPORARY BASEBALL ERA NON-PLAYERS COMMITTEE (1980 TO PRESENT)
Rules for Election for Managers, Umpires and Executives for Contemporary Baseball Era Candidates to the National Baseball Hall of Fame

Name: The Contemporary Baseball Non-Players Committee ("The Committee") shall refer to the electorate that considers retired managers, umpires and executives whose greatest contributions to the game were realized from the 1980-present era.
Managers and umpires with 10 or more major league seasons and retired for at least five years. Candidates who are 65 years or older are eligible six months following retirement;
• Executives retired for at least five years. Active executives 70 years or older are eligible for consideration regardless of the position they hold in an organization, and regardless of whether their body of work has been completed.

Thanks in advance for your input

felada 07-25-2023 05:46 AM

Will never happen but George Steinbrenner should be in.

Huck 07-25-2023 07:23 AM

Jim Leyland

dgo71 07-25-2023 08:05 AM

Joe West and Bruce Froemming.

BillyCoxDodgers3B 07-25-2023 09:10 AM

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Originally Posted by Huck (Post 2358612)
Jim Leyland

With his whopping one World Series title over 22 seasons? Ralph Houk had two titles over 20 seasons and the same amount of pennants as Leyland and he never gets discussed (nor do I really think he belongs, either). Cito Gaston has no place in Cooperstown, either. But with the way these elections continue to comedically devolve, it's to the point where nothing will ever surprise me again.

Huck 07-25-2023 02:45 PM

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Originally Posted by BillyCoxDodgers3B (Post 2358634)
With his whopping one World Series title over 22 seasons? Ralph Houk had two titles over 20 seasons and the same amount of pennants as Leyland and he never gets discussed (nor do I really think he belongs, either). Cito Gaston has no place in Cooperstown, either. But with the way these elections continue to comedically devolve, it's to the point where nothing will ever surprise me again.

As a poster on a another board once said "it is the hall of the mediocre, let them all in".

packs 07-26-2023 09:49 AM

Ralph Houk was successful the first three years he was a manager and then did nothing of note for the next 17 years. Don't think he's HOF material.

shelly 07-26-2023 02:14 PM

Bruce Bochy is a HOF manager

BillyCoxDodgers3B 07-26-2023 02:42 PM

Bochy deserves to get in on his first try.

mr2686 07-26-2023 04:50 PM

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Originally Posted by BillyCoxDodgers3B (Post 2359000)
Bochy deserves to get in on his first try.

Us Padre fans may disagree with that. The whole time he was here he couldn't handle a pitching staff to save his life...which is odd since he was a catcher as a player.

shelly 07-27-2023 03:26 PM

He is the 10th manager to win 3 Championships. The other nine are in the HOF

Topnotchsy 07-29-2023 09:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by theshleps (Post 2358580)
Since I mainly collect autographs of hofers and prices can skyrocket once folks are elected I like to get examples pre elction if possible. This coming year the following are looked at by the eras committee. Any ideas who may be on the ballot and have a good chance?
CONTEMPORARY BASEBALL ERA NON-PLAYERS COMMITTEE (1980 TO PRESENT)
Rules for Election for Managers, Umpires and Executives for Contemporary Baseball Era Candidates to the National Baseball Hall of Fame

Name: The Contemporary Baseball Non-Players Committee ("The Committee") shall refer to the electorate that considers retired managers, umpires and executives whose greatest contributions to the game were realized from the 1980-present era.
Managers and umpires with 10 or more major league seasons and retired for at least five years. Candidates who are 65 years or older are eligible six months following retirement;
• Executives retired for at least five years. Active executives 70 years or older are eligible for consideration regardless of the position they hold in an organization, and regardless of whether their body of work has been completed.

Thanks in advance for your input

Given the fact it is modern era and non-players, I can't imagine anyone is all that expensive, even after being selected to be on the ballot or elected.


Quote:

Originally Posted by BillyCoxDodgers3B (Post 2358634)
With his whopping one World Series title over 22 seasons? Ralph Houk had two titles over 20 seasons and the same amount of pennants as Leyland and he never gets discussed (nor do I really think he belongs, either). Cito Gaston has no place in Cooperstown, either. But with the way these elections continue to comedically devolve, it's to the point where nothing will ever surprise me again.

People talk about the way the Hall continues to devolve, but that ignores the fact that they have allowed people who most would say are unworthy throughout the history of the Hall.

Here are a few beginning in 1945...

- Roger Bresnahan was inducted in 1945. 1252 total hits and no other stats of significant note.
- Ray Schalk was elected in 1955. Well below average hitter. .253 career batting average. 11 career HR's.
- Lloyd Waner was elected in 1967. Below average career hitter and fielder. WAR of under 30 for his career.
- Jesse Haines was elected in 1970. 3.64 ERA. 210-158 record. ERA+ of 109. Career WAR of 32.6.
- Phil Rizzuto was voted in in 1995. 1588 hits. 38 career HR's. Below average hitter. Excellent fielder.

The Hall has some questionable entries. In general though it does a pretty good job of keeping a high standard, and is the most selective HOF of any major sport.


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