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rand1com 02-21-2023 03:13 PM

PSA Crossovers from GAI
 
Anyone have any personal experience crossing GAI cards with PSA? Do they usually pass with just a lower grade or are a high % rejected? If passed at lower grade, how many grades lower?

I am referring to the cards graded by GAI within the first year or so of their existence in their early holders, not the ones graded near the end when I know they were very suspect.

Thanks

inceptus 02-21-2023 04:36 PM

I've only done this once-- a T206 AB Hummel. It went from a GAI 5.5 to a PSA 4.5, and I was very happy with that result.

Peter_Spaeth 02-21-2023 06:19 PM

At this point, 20 years after early GAI, and in a really tight grading phase anyhow, the atmospherics may not be good. You may be better off cracking out and submitting raw.

trambo 02-21-2023 07:48 PM

0-2 with GAI. Both first graded and both were likely trimmed so PSA didn't grade them.

Ct94122 02-21-2023 08:33 PM

GAI Crossover
 
I decided to crack my GAI graded cards out of the cases and then submitted to PSA for grading. All came back with a numerical grade that was close to the GAI grade given years before.

53 Topps Paige was GAI 3.5 became PSA 3
55 Topps Mays was GAI 3 became PSA 3
55 Bowman Aaron GAI 4 became PSA 3
58 Topps Clemente GAI 4 became PSA 3

Cris

rand1com 02-21-2023 08:56 PM

Thanks to all for the info. Any other examples are appreciated.

Zan 02-21-2023 11:20 PM

I had a GAI 4 1933 Goudey Mel Ott 127 and it graded an SGC 4 after I snapped it out

Sean 02-22-2023 01:29 AM

2 Attachment(s)
When I bought this is was graded GAI 1.5. It crossed to this PSA 1.Attachment 558947

Attachment 558948

Marslife 02-22-2023 07:38 AM

GAI to SGC
 
2 Attachment(s)
GAI to SGC if this helps...

Attachment 558969

Attachment 558970

Joe Hunter 02-22-2023 07:54 AM

A few years ago I cracked out several early GAI cards from the 1950's and 60's and sent them to PSA. All came back within a grade (+ or -) of the GAI grade. Cards graded in the early days of GAI were fine, for the most part, but the later GAI graded cards, not so much.

jh691626 02-22-2023 07:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ct94122 (Post 2316956)
I decided to crack my GAI graded cards out of the cases and then submitted to PSA for grading. All came back with a numerical grade that was close to the GAI grade given years before.

53 Topps Paige was GAI 3.5 became PSA 3
55 Topps Mays was GAI 3 became PSA 3
55 Bowman Aaron GAI 4 became PSA 3
58 Topps Clemente GAI 4 became PSA 3

Cris

Did you do this recently or was it a while back? Thanks! Jeff

parkplace33 02-22-2023 08:36 AM

Def recommend cracking out and submitting.

marzoumanian 02-22-2023 08:43 AM

I Wrote About This in 2020
 
I wrote about this exact experience two years ago in one of my columns. You can go to www.markearzoumanian.com. Then click on "Love of the Hobby" and when you scroll through the columns you will find one that covers this subject from November 2020. It's called: Converting GAIs to PSAs: Lessons Learned.
Yes, I know I am biased BUT I think it is worth reading! Take care and glad to share. Peace.

Zach Wheat 02-22-2023 10:27 AM

I cracked and submitted an early graded GAI T206 McGraw. It was a GAI 6.5 and got a PSA 5.5. I was happy with that. I also have a number of T206 1st graded which I have not submitted yet. I believe they are likely trimmed.

perezfan 02-22-2023 10:54 AM

You will consistently find that cards cracked out and submitted to PSA are fine and will grade very similarly. At worst, just a number grade or two less than with GAI, since PSA has become stricter as of late.

Cards submitted still in their GAI Holders will not fare so well, as PSA's bias knows no limits. Easy lesson to be learned here... crack them out if you feel the need to submit to PSA.

Zach Wheat 02-22-2023 12:38 PM

I agree with the crack them comment.

frohme 02-22-2023 08:19 PM

Agreed - crack'em if you're gonna
 
I also cracked several T207s in GAI (early grading) and submitted to SGC, but this was ~ 8-10 years ago. Early GAI cards crossed:

2 - no change
2 - changed
1- down: GAI 4 -> SGC 40 (Fisher Blue)
1 - up: GAI 4 - > SGC 60 (Works)

My more recent experiences (4 yrs ago) were two GAI 7's (recently graded) that were also cracked and submitted and came back SGC A.

--
Mike


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