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tedzan 12-09-2013 11:49 AM

Show your Tobacco, Candy, Gum, Bread, etc. advertisement pieces
 
Circa 1910-1915

It was taboo to depict American women smoking in the early part of the 20th Century. So, ATC produced this subliminal
advertisement showing a gal of middle-Eastern appearance and dress with a pack of cigarettes.
Furthermore, the effect of the repeated (diminishing) image was a clever advertising feature which was novel in that era.


http://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan7...DgalAdv75x.jpg



TED Z
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Bugsy 12-09-2013 11:53 AM

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Whiskey :D

Leon 12-09-2013 12:10 PM

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another enjoyable subject and collecting niche....

ullmandds 12-09-2013 12:25 PM

http://i72.photobucket.com/albums/i1...s/f63141f0.jpg

Jacklitsch 12-09-2013 12:47 PM

http://i52.photobucket.com/albums/g5...anuary1915.jpg

packs 12-09-2013 12:53 PM

The colors on that Turkey Red piece are awesome!

slidekellyslide 12-09-2013 12:58 PM

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6.5" x 4.25" cabinet photo

bobfreedman 12-09-2013 01:38 PM

Cy Young
 
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Tobacco tin in fantastic condition

bbpostcards 12-09-2013 01:43 PM

Obak
 
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Here's one.

ErikV 12-09-2013 02:12 PM

Re: Show your Tobacco, Candy, Gum, etc. advertisement pieces
 
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There's not much in the way of Philadelphia Caramel advertisements.

This ad was featured in the May 1910 issue of the Confectioners Journal.

ErikV

rsst206 12-09-2013 02:25 PM

colgans signe
 
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I just picked up this cool sign to go with my colgan collection.

canjond 12-09-2013 02:44 PM

http://i82.photobucket.com/albums/j2...%20Packs/1.jpghttp://i82.photobucket.com/albums/j2...%20Packs/2.jpg

canjond 12-09-2013 02:45 PM

DISCLAIMER: NOT MINE (although I wish it was)!

Probably the ultimate in advertising:

http://i82.photobucket.com/albums/j2...ertisement.jpg

wonkaticket 12-09-2013 03:05 PM

While a neat item I don’t believe those Turkish Trophies items were ever issued with baseball subjects and are later fantasy creations made by dealers or collectors put on non-sports displays. I have never seen one with baseball players that looks right.

In the above example you can clearly see where another leather was removed and a different shaped leather was put in its place, also the T3 replaced Hamilton King girl cabinets and most likely the S81 was added to replace a flag silk. I’ve had a few long discussions with long time hobby dealers and all have agreed or said the same thing…that these are most likely not original period as issued items.

Cheers,

John

Bugsy 12-09-2013 03:10 PM

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A Fan-Taz soda sign

canjond 12-09-2013 03:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wonkaticket (Post 1215387)
While a neat item I don’t believe those Turkish Trophies items were ever issued with baseball subjects and are later fantasy creations made by dealers or collectors put on non-sports displays. I have never seen one with baseball players that looks right.

In the above example you can clearly see where another leather was removed and a different shaped leather was put in its place, also the T3 replaced Hamilton King girl cabinets and most likely the S81 was added to replace a flag silk. I’ve had a few long discussions with long time hobby dealers and all have agreed or said the same thing…that these are most likely not original period as issued items.

Cheers,

John

John-

Interesting point, and I clearly see what you are referring to.

- Jon

sb1 12-09-2013 03:50 PM

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A pair of Ramly Notepads, the one on the left predates the baseball cards.

tedzan 12-09-2013 04:01 PM

Show your Tobacco, Candy, Gum, etc. advertisement pieces
 
http://i529.photobucket.com/albums/d...southlgers.jpg



TED Z

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LOOKING for this T206 guy to complete my EXCLUSIVE 12 red HINDU sub-set (12 subjects)

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wonkaticket 12-09-2013 04:16 PM

Jon, Here is mine that I bought from a fellow collector.

http://photos.imageevent.com/piojohn...e/turkish1.jpg

I really think these baseball ones were either found empty due to time and damage and baseball issues were added in the thought that they may have been issued like that. Or they were found and the Non-Sports items were removed and baseball added in an order to make the item more valuable.

Another interesting note is on all of these that I have seen the cabinet card items (T7-6’s) are not production T7’s they are a thin piece of the T7 art placed on a thicker piece of paper sort a mock version of the later production T7’s.

http://photos.imageevent.com/piojohn.../turkish13.jpg

My guess and this is purely an educated guess is that when these store display pieces were created they had not begun production of the T7-6’s (Bathing & Athletic Girls). All that I have seen that seem to be period feature T7-6 images. These if you follow the redemption coupons were issued around 1913 well after T3’s. So think these store displays were towards the tail end after T3’s etc.

I really think that all you are buying when it comes to these baseball versions are fantasy pieces and one should value them as a destroyed non-sport piece with glued S81, T3 and L1’s attached so the total value should be that nothing more. I also think Legendary did a really crappy job of calling this item out as vintage last I checked they weren’t using clear plastic corner mounts in the 1900’s at the very least they didn’t even mention that.

Cheers,

John

GasHouseGang 12-09-2013 05:16 PM

Always liked this photo for the advertising.
http://i1101.photobucket.com/albums/.../SmokeShop.jpg

ullmandds 12-09-2013 05:23 PM

david...that's a cool photo.

question?

does a period photo exist depicting a t206...or other t,d,e,n,m card right after it was pulled from it's original package?

wonkaticket 12-09-2013 05:27 PM

Good question Peter. I have seen a photo that sold on eBay quite sometime ago. It was of a Bar that sold smokes and there was a person in the picture sweeping up and there were a pile of t-cards baseball etc. in front of the broom. Simply put folks tossed the cards on the floor. Sadly I didn't save an image I think Dan McKee has an image....

John

wonkaticket 12-09-2013 05:29 PM

Goodwins Champions Banner (G20)
 
http://photos.imageevent.com/piojohn...ge/Ginter1.jpg

ullmandds 12-09-2013 05:46 PM

John...that poster is disgusting!!!!!

That photo sounds way cool...would love to see a copy of that!!!

3-2-count 12-09-2013 06:15 PM

http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a95...psbe322f4a.jpg

http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a95...psed322c24.jpg

http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a95...ps1203d621.jpg

http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a95...ps5b9caad8.jpg

http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a95.../hassan2-1.jpg

http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a95...ps7daa0a03.jpg

http://photos.imageevent.com/ltsgall...e/DSC03687.JPG

http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a95...y/DSC02953.jpg

ullmandds 12-09-2013 06:21 PM

Beauties, Tony.

joeadcock 12-09-2013 06:27 PM

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3-2-count 12-09-2013 06:47 PM

Thanks Pete. A few more smalls.

http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a95...ps3a3cda94.jpg

http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a95...ps6266048b.jpg

http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a95...tny/pbpak1.jpg

http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a95...y/DSC02219.jpg

wonkaticket 12-09-2013 06:53 PM

N127
 
Great stuff Tony!

http://photos.imageevent.com/piojohn...rge/Sea%20.jpg

3-2-count 12-09-2013 06:58 PM

Thanks John. Your Sea Captains piece just GLOWS!! I really dig that!!

E93 12-09-2013 07:11 PM

Tony,
Love the Piedmont wood box with packs and EPDG!

John,
That Allen and Ginter poster is awful. Get rid of it immediately! PM sent with my mailing address. :)
JimB

wonkaticket 12-09-2013 07:15 PM

American Beauty & American Indians (G1)
 
http://photos.imageevent.com/piojohn...t/large/AB.jpg

http://photos.imageevent.com/piojohn...rge/Indian.jpg

Cheers,

John

gregr2 12-09-2013 07:15 PM

Those Polar Bear Tobacco boxes are great! I need one of those!

John V 12-09-2013 07:35 PM

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Some more Piedmont.

jerrys 12-09-2013 08:16 PM

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wonkaticket 12-09-2013 08:33 PM

Jerry those are great!

http://photos.imageevent.com/piojohn...arge/Opera.jpg

jerrys 12-09-2013 09:08 PM

A few more
 
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gregr2 12-09-2013 09:09 PM

Great stuff!

Jantz 12-09-2013 09:16 PM

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Wow!

Nice pieces everyone!

T3s 12-09-2013 09:33 PM

Old Mill Storefront
 
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Care of the Utah State Historical Society website

T3s 12-09-2013 09:36 PM

Turkey Red stuff
 
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A few Turkey Red related items

joeadcock 12-09-2013 09:44 PM

Craig

Cool store fronts, especially El Princepe De Galles.

sb1 12-10-2013 06:36 AM

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One of two known Ramly store display pieces. Another board member owns the other.

barrysloate 12-10-2013 07:11 AM

Scott- that 1909 Ramly photo used to belong to Richard Merkin. Strangely, he had it hanging in his kitchen. I used to see it when I visited.

tedzan 12-10-2013 09:15 AM

Show your Tobacco, Candy, Gum, etc. advertisement pieces
 
http://i529.photobucket.com/albums/d...z/aadvepdg.jpg

....http://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan7...EPDGbkx25x.jpg. . .http://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan7...EPDGbkx25x.jpg. . .http://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan7...EPDGbkx25x.jpg. . .http://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan7...EPDGbkx25x.jpg



TED Z

E93 12-10-2013 12:10 PM

Jerry,
That Yum Yum piece is incredible!
JimB

D. Broughman 12-10-2013 01:51 PM

Yocum Brothers Cigars
 
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12"by32"

sb1 12-10-2013 03:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by barrysloate (Post 1215606)
Scott- that 1909 Ramly photo used to belong to Richard Merkin. Strangely, he had it hanging in his kitchen. I used to see it when I visited.

Barry,

Very nice to know a bit of provenance on it. Thanks very much. Unfortunately now it does not see the light of day, probably better for it in the long run.

Scott

wonkaticket 12-10-2013 03:53 PM

Such a cool item Scott!

http://photos.imageevent.com/piojohn...ge/Pirates.jpg

leftygrove10 12-10-2013 06:19 PM

Lefty Grove...
 
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Granger Ad of Lefty Grove....


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