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Schwertfeger1007 07-24-2022 11:47 AM

Let's see your favorite 19th Century Cabinets!
 
I was lucky enough to pick this up in the most recent Heritage Auction and wants to see some of the groups favorite cabinets from the 19th century.

Schwertfeger1007 07-24-2022 11:51 AM

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Joseph Hall 1888 Tim Keefe

benchod 07-24-2022 12:05 PM

Very nice pick up!
Congrats

Fred 07-24-2022 12:19 PM

That is a nice pickup!

joeadcock 07-24-2022 01:03 PM

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oldjudge 07-24-2022 01:46 PM

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Players League Delahanty

oldjudge 07-24-2022 01:53 PM

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From the Deacon White family

BeanTown 07-24-2022 02:02 PM

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Rookie Cy Young 1891 has always been my favorite.

benchod 07-24-2022 02:09 PM

Awesome Delahanty and Cyrus cabs!

RCMcKenzie 07-24-2022 02:23 PM

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Nice pick-up on the Keefe. I had some early bids in on the Crane. Here's a team cabinet.

molenick 07-24-2022 02:27 PM

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Not my most valuable, but it is my favorite (the line going down the middle is the reflection of my phone).

oldjudge 07-24-2022 03:08 PM

JC-I think your Young and my Delahanty came from the same place and have the same pinhole at the top.

BeanTown 07-24-2022 04:45 PM

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JC-I think your Young and my Delahanty came from the same place and have the same pinhole at the top.

I think your right. Looks like some kid had good taste hanging our cabinets up back in the day.

robertsmithnocure 07-24-2022 08:14 PM

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Rookie Cy Young 1891 has always been my favorite.

What a cool card. That and his 1893 Just So are my dream cards.

It is amazing to think that a Ryder issued a rookie card of Cy Young in 1891 after he had played only a partial year in 1890. What are the chances? Did any other teams issue 1891 cabinet cards?

oldjudge 07-24-2022 09:57 PM

What are the chances—pretty good. They issued cards of all the players on Cleveland.

BeanTown 07-24-2022 11:09 PM

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Here is another one from 1891. Hate to say this, but it got misplaced and more likely stolen from me years ago. Has never showed up in auction.

RCMcKenzie 07-24-2022 11:50 PM

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JC and Jay, great cabs that need no explanation. Hope you find that one, JC. My mom was an antique dealer and used to say, "it's in a safe place", when she couldn't find something.

Here's a Pifer & Becker cabinet, the company that produced the photos for the 1893 Just So Cleveland cards. Here's a write up on Just So, for those that are new to this stuff. http://www.prewarcards.com/2016/10/0...o-tobacco-set/

I think a Just So McAleer has still not appeared, although this image is on the Just So ad poster found a few years back.

robertsmithnocure 07-24-2022 11:58 PM

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What are the chances—pretty good. They issued cards of all the players on Cleveland.

Yes, I know that Ryder issued images of the 1891 Cleveland players. My question was what are the chances that Ryder would issue a set of cabinet cards for the entire Cleveland team, which, of course, included Young?

Did any other photographers or companies issue a set of cabinet cards for an 1891 team?

oldjudge 07-25-2022 12:49 AM

Ah, I see. I don't know the answer but I wouldn't be surprised if there were others.

Keith H. Thompson 07-25-2022 06:07 AM

Malarial Thompson
 
At first or even second glance this cabinet looks like the familiar Bacon pose that appears in so many articles or references to Sam Thompson, but i believe it to be taken in 1890 when Thompson jumped to the Player's League (then jumped back, of course) and for that purpose.

Keith H. Thompson 07-25-2022 06:14 AM

Malarial Thompson
 
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At first or even second glance this cabinet looks like the familiar Bacon pose that appears in so many articles or references to Sam Thompson, but i believe it to be taken in 1890 when Thompson jumped to the Player's League (then jumped back, of course) and for that purpose.

Keith H. Thompson 07-25-2022 06:33 AM

TIKs example
 
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When Terry first showed me this cabinet that came to him in a walk-in lot (I believe) of several Player's League cabinets, we could not identify it immediately as Sam Thompson, for it is only identified as "Thompson" on the front and "Malarial Thompson" on the back (an identification for which I take full credit and that I'm not sure if Terry has ever believed). He had it authenticated, and I eventually acquired it from him at a National in Chicago.

jcmtiger 07-25-2022 08:45 AM

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Tomlinson Detroit

robertsmithnocure 07-25-2022 01:58 PM

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Originally Posted by BeanTown (Post 2245600)
Here is another one from 1891. Hate to say this, but it got misplaced and more likely stolen from me years ago. Has never showed up in auction.

Jay Cee, that is a crazy story. I hope that it turns up at some point and you are able to get it back.

How were you able to date it to 1891?

Schwertfeger1007 08-26-2022 09:22 PM

Great stuff here! Let's keep it going.

ksfarmboy 08-27-2022 03:26 AM

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My recent addition to the Kansas collection.

Schwertfeger1007 12-15-2022 11:33 PM

Some great cabinets thanks all for sharing. Let's see some more!!

GeoPoto 12-16-2022 02:59 AM

Rowdy Bill Coughlin
 
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William P. "Bill" Coughlin. "Scranton Bill". "Rowdy Bill". Third baseman with the Washington Nationals in 1899 (NL) and Senators in 1901-1904 (AL). 972 hits and 159 stolen bases in 9 MLB seasons. He was known as a master of the hidden-ball trick. He was a key figure on the Detroit Tiger team that won AL pennants in 1907 and 1908. But his most productive season was 1902 with Washington as he posted an OBP of .348 with 84 runs scored and 71 RBIs in 506 plate appearances. His final seasons were with Detroit in 1904-1908.

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GaryPassamonte 12-16-2022 04:03 AM

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1874 Boston Red Stockings.

sb1 12-16-2022 05:40 AM

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A classic..

Rhotchkiss 12-16-2022 06:29 AM

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This is an awesome thread, especially the Cy Youngs :eek:

Not cabinets in the traditional sense, but here are two pre-1900 two CDVs and one mounted photo, all of which likely qualify for the thread. Can’t wait to see what else pops up

Jobu 12-16-2022 09:43 AM

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Hopefully I can cheat and post one from 1900 - Taylor Smith when he was in the Provincial League in Canada. He also played for a number of teams in the US. For his full story: https://www.net54baseball.com/showthread.php?t=277647

EDITED TO ADD: Between 1897 and 1900, he pitched for New York's Genuine Cuban Giants BBC. The Syracuse Journal (4/28/1897) reported: "Pitcher Smith of the Cuban Giants has a set of ivories that hoodooed the Stars yesterday and every time he smiled one of his six by nine smiles he rattled the men at the bat so that they did not plug him to the extent expected."

I love that report because it 100% matches the character that shows in the photo.

3finger1908 12-16-2022 12:43 PM

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amazing cards... that Young! I only have one 19th Century Cabinet in my collection, which serves as a stinging reminder that the Cubs were once the White Stockings.

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ramram 12-16-2022 01:08 PM

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Those are some killer cabinets fellas.

A couple from my Kansas City collection.

Rob M

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puckpaul 12-16-2022 02:05 PM

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These are some of my favorite cards ever shown here…that Cy Young especially, Jay!

Here are a few of my favorites in my collection, some are self explanatory, and the Harvard one dates from 1876 of Fred Thayer who supposedly invented the catcher’s mask.

Exhibitman 12-16-2022 02:17 PM

I know it is boxing, but these Sarony mounted photos are too nice not to post:

https://photos.imageevent.com/exhibi...Composite.jpeg

Clockwise from top left, Jem Mace, Paddy Ryan, Jim Corbett and Jim Jeffries

Joe Hunter 12-16-2022 05:20 PM

19th Century Cabinets
 
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I guess this is my favorite since it is the only one I own.

Rhotchkiss 12-16-2022 05:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Jobu (Post 2294689)
Hopefully I can cheat and post one from 1900 - Taylor Smith when he was in the Provincial League in Canada. He also played for a number of teams in the US. For his full story: https://www.net54baseball.com/showthread.php?t=277647

Bryan, I always like when you post that cabinet, such a great image.

Schwertfeger1007 12-16-2022 07:25 PM

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Gary that 74 is incredible!!

Love the others too... Jobu, Scott, Ryan awesome!!

These are my 2 personal favorites.

Baseball Rarities 12-16-2022 07:42 PM

What a great thread. Especially love seeing the Deacon White, the Kid Nichols and the 1874 Boston team.

LEHR 12-17-2022 07:27 AM

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Not sure if it's my favorite, but this is my newest cabinet. The cabinet originated from the estate of Boston Beaneaters team member Hardy Richardson.

alywa 12-17-2022 11:48 AM

My only 19th C. Cabinet
 
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Here's Big Big Dan Brouthers with his Little Big Dan Brouthers Brothers

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molenick 12-25-2022 01:11 PM

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I received a PM from someone wanting to see some more 19th century cabinets. If I remember correctly, I was told this is a California college team, but I would have to find the auction details to be sure. As per the verso, the studio was located in San Buenaventura, Cal. which apparently is the official name of Ventura, Cal. However, Ventura College was established in 1925, so it is either a lower level school, or not a school team at all. Ventura High School was established in 1889, so perhaps it is a high school team (although these guys look older to me). Maybe it was just a local team not affiliated with a school...anyway, they did win a trophy, so I guess they were pretty good.

triwak 12-26-2022 03:09 PM

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Several suits.

bn2cardz 12-26-2022 03:24 PM

Chris Von Der Ahe. https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/202...faaa98afb2.jpg

jcmtiger 12-26-2022 04:06 PM

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Her is another Detroit player I received in a trade. Unfortunately the Detroit has been scratched off the Jersey.

molenick 12-26-2022 09:52 PM

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1896 St. Hyacinthe team from the short-lived independent International League (not the AAA International League).

Jobu 12-26-2022 10:47 PM

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I wasn't expecting a St Hyacinthe sighting!

The Taylor Smith photo I posted above is from his time in Canada with St. Jean but it came with two other photos, one a St Hyacinthe team composite and the other two players from the team likely at Parc Laframboise in Saint-Hyacinthe where all the local teams played starting in 1901. The uniforms read GABBC - Granite Association Base Ball Club - because the Granite Mills used to sponsor the club from its inception in 1894 until 1897. However, the photo might have been taken later than 1897 as these uniforms could be leftovers from previous seasons. The player Mannion in the composite might be George Manion of T206 fame as this photo was taken a year before his first entry in Baseball Reference (when he was 20) and he didn't live far away as he grew up in upstate New York.

I added a little more fun info to my Taylor Smith post too. And I owe a big thank you to a friend for helping me to uncover most of what I have learned about these photos.

molenick 12-29-2022 08:52 PM

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Another N173

GaryPassamonte 12-30-2022 04:07 AM

That's got to be one of the nicest Kellys out there, Michael.


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