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calvindog 11-20-2017 12:43 PM

Ty Cobb In the Matheson Silent Six Auto
 
Very rare Cobb postcard from 1910 which until recently, I was unaware came in two different versions, both with Barney Oldfield and Davy Jones -- but with a different driver and copy on the cards. Otherwise the cards are identical:

https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4520/...c35bfcfc_c.jpg


https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4331/...7f12ed94_c.jpg

edjs 11-20-2017 02:25 PM

You sure do know your Cobb postcards. I would never have noticed these being different until seeing them in the same post. Thanks for sharing, very cool.

Bicem 11-20-2017 07:59 PM

Very cool! Did not know there were two versions as well.

MVSNYC 11-20-2017 08:33 PM

When you say different drivers...looks to me like Cobb and the other guy in the front just switch seats...same 4 passengers, no?

Aquarian Sports Cards 11-21-2017 02:43 AM

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Originally Posted by MVSNYC (Post 1722341)
When you say different drivers...looks to me like Cobb and the other guy in the front just switch seats...same 4 passengers, no?

I agree, and I imagine they got used for promotion of the company, so the big wig had to get one behind the wheel too.

calvindog 11-21-2017 06:02 AM

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Originally Posted by MVSNYC (Post 1722341)
When you say different drivers...looks to me like Cobb and the other guy in the front just switch seats...same 4 passengers, no?

Yes, identical postcards other than Cobb switching seats with the car rep.

Jobu 11-21-2017 06:36 AM

I am pretty sure that the other driver is Barney Oldfield, probably the most famous race car driver of the early 20th century.

Bicem 11-21-2017 08:47 AM

Wonder if Cobb traded in his Brush Runabout?

Harford20 11-21-2017 09:25 AM

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Originally Posted by Jobu (Post 1722395)
I am pretty sure that the other driver is Barney Oldfield, probably the most famous race car driver of the early 20th century.

Jobu, very biased here (as he is a direct relative of mine), but when talking AAA sanctioned races, Ray Harroun was as famous if not more than Oldfield from 1905-1911. Oldfield was a speed daredevil, no question unmatched here, but was often banned from big-track racing.

Dave

insidethewrapper 11-21-2017 07:45 PM

If you look carefully you can see Cobb with a "Ty Cobb back" tobacco card.

brob28 11-22-2017 08:59 AM

I assume that is the same Davy Jones that played with Cobb? If so, any idea why he is included here?

sb1 01-09-2018 04:22 PM

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According to the SGC pop report their are only three graded examples of the Matheson Silent Six Postcard with Cobb and others, which includes both poses of drivers.

I am pleased to say that I will have the third example, an SGC 50 in my upcoming auction, should any of you have an interest. Just a heads up, the auction starts Jan 22nd.

Yoda 01-10-2018 09:16 AM

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Originally Posted by Harford20 (Post 1722467)
Jobu, very biased here (as he is a direct relative of mine), but when talking AAA sanctioned races, Ray Harroun was as famous if not more than Oldfield from 1905-1911. Oldfield was a speed daredevil, no question unmatched here, but was often banned from big-track racing.

Dave

I believe one of Oldfield's proudest moments is when he beat boxer Jack Johnson in a close mano a mano auto race; it was a near thing but Barney pulled it out at the finish.

Bicem 01-10-2018 11:53 AM

Dibs.

BeanTown 01-10-2018 12:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Bicem (Post 1737305)
Dibs.

Ok, ill be the under bidder then

Michael Peich 01-10-2018 01:14 PM

And I'll be the under-under bidder!

Cheers, Mike

BeanTown 02-03-2018 02:11 PM

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Lets get this party started, closes tonight!

Jobu 05-04-2021 08:28 PM

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An addition to this thread. The original mounted photo for the postcard with Oldfield driving, which was owned by Cobb. (9" x 11" mount, 6" x 8" photo)

Rhotchkiss 05-05-2021 04:01 AM

Awesome Bryan

GeoPoto 05-05-2021 05:19 AM

I don't mean to take sides regarding who was more famous, but when Walter Johnson took one of his first paychecks, bought a "high performance" car, and promptly got pulled over for speeding, the nick-name that he was given by his teammates, which stuck for life ("Big Train" wasn't coined until much later in his career), was "Barney". Perhaps only because it has a more distinct ring to it than "Ray".

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Originally Posted by Harford20 (Post 1722467)
Jobu, very biased here (as he is a direct relative of mine), but when talking AAA sanctioned races, Ray Harroun was as famous if not more than Oldfield from 1905-1911. Oldfield was a speed daredevil, no question unmatched here, but was often banned from big-track racing.

Dave


Jobu 05-08-2021 07:18 AM

Thanks Ryan!

And thanks for sharing that George, I didn't know that was the origin of that nickname for Walter. My dad tells me that my grandfather also used to call my uncle and him Barney back when they first started driving.

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Originally Posted by Rhotchkiss (Post 2099626)
Awesome Bryan


Leon 05-11-2021 12:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Jobu (Post 2099574)
An addition to this thread. The original mounted photo for the postcard with Oldfield driving, which was owned by Cobb. (9" x 11" mount, 6" x 8" photo)

That really is a great photo!

.

Hankphenom 05-11-2021 03:44 PM

What a great thread, just what makes this forum so cool. (Apart from Leon, of course!) Fabulous pieces, Jeff and Bryan. Johnson was tagged "The Big Train" in 1915 by an obscure D.C. sportswriter named Stanley Milliken.

Jobu 05-16-2021 06:23 AM

I don't know why, but I always assumed that Barney was a nickname from Walter's younger days. Fun that he picked it up mid-career and it stuck!


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