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Archive 06-21-2007 08:36 AM

T206 Red HINDU cards.....SURVEY
 
Posted By: <b>Pennsylvania Ted</b><p>A favorite "toughie" for most T206 collectors, there are a possible 110 Subjects that were printed<br /> with the Red HINDU back. This includes cards in the 350/460 Series, the 460-only Series, and the<br /> Six Super Prints.<br /><br />To date, we have confirmed only 45 different Red Hindu's from the T206 set.<br /><br />I'll start with my two examples.....two real "characters" from the NY Giants.....let's see yours; and,<br /> perhaps we'll have some new ones to add to the known list ?<br /><br />TED Z<br /><br /> <br /><br /><img src="http://www.freephotoserver.com/v001/tedzan/adonlinmcgrawrhindu.jpg"><br /><br /><img src="http://www.freephotoserver.com/v001/tedzan/bbredhindu.jpg">

Archive 06-21-2007 08:37 AM

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Posted By: <b>Marc S.</b><p>I have a Magee with Bat, although i don't have a scan on me at the time.<br /><br />I also know that a Doolan batting exists. If the owner of that one would like to trade/divest it, I would certainly be a very willing buyer.

Archive 06-21-2007 08:57 AM

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Posted By: <b>Lee</b><p>My New Red Hindu via the last Goodwin Auction:<br /><br /><img src="http://www.network54.com/Realm/tmp/1182351232.JPG"> <br /><img src="http://www.network54.com/Realm/tmp/1182351260.JPG"> <br /><br />And 2 Red Hindu's I just sold to a board member:<br /><br /><img src="http://www.network54.com/Realm/tmp/1182351349.JPG"> <br /><img src="http://www.network54.com/Realm/tmp/1182351372.JPG"> <br /><img src="http://www.network54.com/Realm/tmp/1182351393.JPG"><br /><img src="http://www.network54.com/Realm/tmp/1182351420.JPG"> <br /><br />Edited to add name

Archive 06-21-2007 09:11 AM

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Posted By: <b>MVSNYC</b><p>looking to upgrade...<img src="http://www.network54.com/Realm/tmp/1182352247.JPG"> <img src="http://www.network54.com/Realm/tmp/1182352236.JPG">

Archive 06-21-2007 09:21 AM

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Posted By: <b>Bob</b><p>There is a Heinie Wagner with a Red Hindu back somewhere in the world as I sold it about 10 years ago, for anyone keeping track. Can't remember if it is bat left or bat right.

Archive 06-21-2007 10:47 AM

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Posted By: <b>Jim Dale</b><p><img src="http://www.network54.com/Realm/tmp/1182358013.JPG"> <img src="http://www.network54.com/Realm/tmp/1182357992.JPG">

Archive 06-21-2007 10:52 AM

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Posted By: <b>peter ullman</b><p>i still have the brown...sold the other 2. sorry for the old...huge scan but I'm between crown preps!<br /><br />pete ullman<br /><br /><img src="http://www.network54.com/Realm/tmp/1182361082.JPG"> <img src="http://www.network54.com/Realm/tmp/1182361098.JPG"> <br /><br />edited size and added backs

Archive 06-21-2007 11:40 AM

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Posted By: <b>Dylan</b><p>Unfortunatly i dont own a red hindu yet... but i was wondering in that large survey done were red hindus found to be tougher then the black lenox?

Archive 06-21-2007 11:56 AM

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Posted By: <b>Pennsylvania Ted</b><p>DYLAN<br /><br />Black Lenox backs are about twice as easy to find as the Red HINDU cards. Both these backs can theoretically<br />be found on 110 Subjects.<br /><br />So far, no new Red HINDU's have been reported here. When I get the chance I'll post the 42 known Red HINDU's.<br /><br />TED Z

Archive 06-21-2007 01:06 PM

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Posted By: <b>Dylan</b><p>Wow really twice as tough? Its interesting that they sell for roughly the same amount, but i suppose it has to do with the fact that people can substitute a brown hindu whereas theres no cheaper lenox.

Archive 06-21-2007 01:09 PM

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Posted By: <b>MVSNYC</b><p>Dylan- kinda true, i guess...similiar situation with the BL 460 & Drum...but obviously the BL 460 is way scarcer.

Archive 06-21-2007 01:44 PM

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Posted By: <b>Lee</b><p>PSA 1 red hindu = $400-$450<br />PSA 1 lenox = $250 -$300<br /><br />IMO red hindu's carry more value because they are much rarer as Mike and others have stated, but I don't think they are roughly the same price. Even in PSA 1, Red hindu's are worth about $150 more than black lenox, a significant difference.<br /><br />The same is true with Drum and BL 460. I think BL 460 is significantly scarcer and demands a significant premium over Drum.

Archive 06-21-2007 02:49 PM

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Posted By: <b>Pennsylvania Ted</b><p>LEE<br /><br />My experience, as I just told Dylan, is that LENOX backs (while they are tough) are considerably more<br /> available than Red HINDU.<br />The Survey that shows us only 42 Red HINDU's are confirmed, shows us about 80+ LENOX backs confirmed.<br /><br />Also, I have to disagree with you regarding DRUM vs Broad Leaf 460. Granted BL 460 backs are very scarce,<br />but DRUM's are in higher demand....therefore, sell for comparable prices as the BL 460.<br /><br />This higher demand is due to many, many more T206 collectors needing DRUM's to complete their basic "15<br /> T-brand sub-set". And, they already have a Broad Leaf 350; therefore, don't go after the BL 460.<br /><br />I've been selling T206's for over 25 years and I can tell you this is very true.It basically boils down to.......<br />the law of supply vs demand.<br /><br />TED Z

Archive 06-21-2007 03:11 PM

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Posted By: <b>Marc S.</b><p>&lt;&lt;lan- kinda true, i guess...similiar situation with the BL 460 & Drum...but obviously the BL 460 is way scarcer.&gt;&gt;<br /><br />There's just so many of those darn Drums laying around. Not scarce at all! <img src="/images/happy.gif" height=14 width=14>

Archive 06-21-2007 03:32 PM

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Posted By: <b>judson hamlin</b><p>I can confirm a Johnson pitching (g/g-vg) that i saw at EPSCC a few years ago, but didn't buy because 800.00 was too much. The next sound you hear will be me kicking myself in the arse.

Archive 06-21-2007 03:41 PM

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Posted By: <b>Brian Weisner</b><p><br /> Hi Judson,<br /> That's one of my favorite cards.....<br /><br /><img src="http://i138.photobucket.com/albums/q257/hogan6g/17061019.jpg"><br /><img src="http://i138.photobucket.com/albums/q257/hogan6g/17061013.jpg"><br /> <br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br />Be well Brian

Archive 06-21-2007 04:19 PM

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Posted By: <b>MVSNYC</b><p>Marc- you know what i mean...<br /><br />Drum is very tuff, but i have owned a few...Broad Leaf 460, on the other hand...it took me many many years to get one...<br /><br /><br />Ted- i understnad your thinking, and see your point.<br /><br />i am working on a master back set, constantly upgrading...i have most of the tuffer ones, now just need to infill with some of the more common series/factories (all PSA mid-high grade).<br /><br />now those darn brown old mills & lenox, are a different story...

Archive 06-21-2007 04:19 PM

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Posted By: <b>Jeff Lichtman</b><p><img src="http://www.network54.com/Realm/tmp/1182377948.JPG"> <img src="http://www.network54.com/Realm/tmp/1182377974.JPG">

Archive 06-21-2007 04:46 PM

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Posted By: <b>Pennsylvania Ted</b><p>The list of the 41 confirmed T206's with Red HINDU backs.....6/21/07<br />Possible total = 110 Subjects<br /><br />Baker<br />Bender (trees)<br />M. Brown (Chi)<br />Burch (fldg)<br />Chase (blue)<br />Chase (dark cap)<br />Cobb (bat off)<br />Crandall (cap)<br />Davis (A's)<br />Devore<br />Donlin (bat)<br />Doolan (bat)<br />Downey (bat)<br />Larry Doyle (bat)<br />Duffy<br />Elberfeld (Wash-fldg)<br />Evers (Chi-bat)<br />Ford<br />Gandil<br />Geyer<br />Griffith (bat)<br />Hummell<br />Johnson (pitch)<br />Konetchy (glove low)<br />Magee (bat)<br />Manning (pitch)<br />McGraw (glove hip)<br />O'Leary (hds/knees)<br />Pfeffer<br />Rucker (throw)<br />Seymour (throw)<br />Sheckard (glove)<br />Snodgrass (fldg)<br />Stahl (glove) <br />Street (fldg)<br />Sweeney (NY)<br />Tannehill (Chi-throw))<br />Wagner (bat/right)<br />Wheat<br />Willis (throw)<br />CYoung (glove)

Archive 06-21-2007 05:13 PM

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Posted By: <b>JimB</b><p>Brian,<br />Where do you find these? That is a great card!!<br />JimB

Archive 06-21-2007 06:56 PM

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Posted By: <b>Aaron Seefeldt</b><p><a href="http://imageshack.us"><img src="http://img115.imageshack.us/img115/4163/t206cobbredhindupsa4jo7.png" border="0" alt="Image Hosted by ImageShack.us" /></a> <a href="http://imageshack.us"><img src="http://img256.imageshack.us/img256/7610/t206cobbredhindubkup9.png" border="0" alt="Image Hosted by ImageShack.us" /></a><br /><br />A new one for your list...

Archive 06-21-2007 08:17 PM

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Posted By: <b>Jeff Lichtman</b><p>Aaron and Brian, incredible cards. And Aaron, please post the Chase -- I was the underbidder. Very sad underbidder.

Archive 06-21-2007 09:38 PM

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Posted By: <b>barry arnold</b><p>Wow!<br />these cards are beauts!<br />no red hindu for me yet.<br />just some great browns!<br /><br />best,<br /><br />barry

Archive 06-21-2007 10:08 PM

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Posted By: <b>Jim Dale</b><p>That last Cobb is amazing; great card.

Archive 06-21-2007 11:13 PM

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Posted By: <b>Brian Weisner</b><p><br /> Hi Aaron,<br /> Amazing card!!! I had heard reports of it's existence, but had never seen one, especially one that nice. I Love Red Hindu's.....

Archive 06-22-2007 06:53 AM

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Posted By: <b>Pennsylvania Ted</b><p>You have us all beat when it comes to T206 rare backs, both in quantity and quality.<br />How about showing us some more of those fine looking Red HINDU's you have ?<br /><br />TED Z

Archive 06-22-2007 06:59 AM

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Posted By: <b>Brian Weisner</b><p><br /> Hi Ted,<br /> I'll be happy to post some scans when I get off work this afternoon.<br /> Have a great day. Brian

Archive 06-22-2007 08:30 AM

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Posted By: <b>Paul S</b><p><img src="http://i190.photobucket.com/albums/z26/pspec/T206_Duffy_f-b_Hindu_Red.jpg"><br />

Archive 06-22-2007 03:38 PM

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Posted By: <b>Aaron Seefeldt</b><p>Jeff,<br /><br />I'll post the Chase tonight when I get home...<br /><br />-Aaron Seefeldt

Archive 06-22-2007 04:25 PM

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Posted By: <b>judson hamlin</b><p>Dear Brian,<br /><br />You seem like a nice guy, but please take up stamps, coins, postcards, pogs, anything...<br />You're not leaving anything for the rest of us.<br /><br />Signed,<br /><br />T206 collectors everywhere<br /><br />:0}<br /><br />

Archive 06-22-2007 04:36 PM

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Posted By: <b>robert a</b><p>Has anyone owned/documented a red hindu back with either of the two Tinkers generally found with 460 backs (Bat on and Bat off)?<br /><br />Also same question with Chance Yellow and Batting?<br /><br />They must be out there somewhere.<br /><br />Thanks,<br /><br />Robert

Archive 06-22-2007 05:48 PM

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Posted By: <b>JimB</b><p><img src="http://img261.imageshack.us/img261/1502/t206wheatredhindu2oj4.jpg"> <img src="http://img522.imageshack.us/img522/9293/t206wheatredhindubackpk1.jpg">

Archive 06-22-2007 05:48 PM

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Posted By: <b>Pennsylvania Ted</b><p>ROBERT<br /><br />I expect a Red HINDU Chance (yellow portrait) to show up in due time. And, ditto for Matty (Dark cap).<br />Both these cards are in the Super Print category, of which there are SIX cards. <br /><br />The other four....Chase (blue), Chase (dark cap), Cobb (red), and Evers (Chi-bat) have been confirmed<br /> with Red HINDU backs.<br /><br />TED Z

Archive 06-22-2007 08:09 PM

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Posted By: <b>Brian Weisner</b><p> Hi Ted,<br /> These are for you my friend...... I have a 11, but nothing unknown: <br /><br /><img src="http://i138.photobucket.com/albums/q257/hogan6g/Scan0016-1.jpg"><br /><img src="http://i138.photobucket.com/albums/q257/hogan6g/Scan0015-1.jpg"><br /><img src="http://i138.photobucket.com/albums/q257/hogan6g/Scan0021-1.jpg"><br /><img src="http://i138.photobucket.com/albums/q257/hogan6g/Scan0020-1.jpg"><br /><img src="http://i138.photobucket.com/albums/q257/hogan6g/Scan0019-1.jpg"><br /><img src="http://i138.photobucket.com/albums/q257/hogan6g/Scan0017-1.jpg"><br /><img src="http://i138.photobucket.com/albums/q257/hogan6g/Scan0018-2.jpg"><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br />Hi Judson,<br /> I don't like stamps or coins(unless they are Gold) and luckily never bought a Pog, so I guess you are stuck with me... FYI I did take your advice... I only bid on 1 lot in Mastro and it's a loser, so good luck.<br /><br /> Be well Brian<br /><br />PS The sloate auction is another story.. <br />

Archive 06-22-2007 10:38 PM

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Posted By: <b>steve yawitz</b><p>Amazing Cobb, Aaron. What a fantastic card! Love those Cardinals, too, Brian. Another Brown Hindu arrived today, but I really want a Red one after seeing all these.

Archive 06-23-2007 07:14 PM

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Posted By: <b>Pennsylvania Ted</b><p>Thanks for displaying some of your Red HINDU's. <br /><br />How many of these backs do you have in your T206 collection ?<br /><br />TED Z

Archive 06-23-2007 08:56 PM

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Posted By: <b>Trae R.</b><p>Ted, he said:<br />" Hi Ted, These are for you my friend...... <b>I have a 11</b>, but nothing unknown."<br /><br />Beautiful cards!

Archive 06-23-2007 09:01 PM

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Posted By: <b>judson hamlin</b><p>Brian - Great cards, especially the Konetchy. Cool pose. Good luck with Barry's auction; don't overlook those pogs, though, or maybe 1987 Topps...<br />

Archive 06-23-2007 09:44 PM

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Posted By: <b>Aaron Seefeldt</b><p><a href="http://imageshack.us"><img src="http://img488.imageshack.us/img488/1376/t206chaseportredhindumk6.jpg" border="0" alt="Image Hosted by ImageShack.us"/></a>&lt;br/&gt;Shot at 1969-12-31<a href="http://imageshack.us"><img src="http://img483.imageshack.us/img483/2285/t206chaseportredhindubkmp2.jpg" border="0" alt="Image Hosted by ImageShack.us"/></a>&lt;br/&gt;Shot at 1969-12-31

Archive 06-23-2007 09:52 PM

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Posted By: <b>Aaron Seefeldt</b><p><a href="http://imageshack.us"><img src="http://img488.imageshack.us/img488/1203/t206crandallredhinducq1.jpg" border="0" alt="Image Hosted by ImageShack.us"/></a>&lt;br/&gt;Shot at 1969-12-31 <a href="http://imageshack.us"><img src="http://img340.imageshack.us/img340/9973/t206crandallredhindubackk4.jpg" border="0" alt="Image Hosted by ImageShack.us"/></a>&lt;br/&gt;Shot at 1969-12-31

Archive 06-24-2007 06:35 AM

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Posted By: <b>Pennsylvania Ted</b><p>Scratch my question to you.....upon 2nd glance, I see you answered it already.....<br /><br />Best regards ole buddy,<br /><br />TED Z

Archive 06-24-2007 06:55 PM

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Posted By: <b>Pennsylvania Ted</b><p>Care to trade your Red HINDU Chase for my Broad Leaf Chase ? Ha....I didn't think so....but, I thought I'd ask.<br /><br />OK, guys and gals, show us your pretty looking Red HINDU's. I know they're rare, but, there has to be more of<br /> them in Net54er's collections....than we have seen, so far ?<br /><br />TED Z

Archive 06-25-2007 10:48 AM

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Posted By: <b>aaron seefeldt</b><p>McGraw, Tannehill, & Duffy seem to be more common than others...<br /><a href="http://imageshack.us"><img src="http://img146.imageshack.us/img146/651/t206duffyredhindupsa3jb0.png" border="0" alt="Image Hosted by ImageShack.us"/></a>&lt;br/&gt;Shot at 1969-12-31 <a href="http://imageshack.us"><img src="http://img527.imageshack.us/img527/4943/t206duffyredhindupsa3bkrs3.png" border="0" alt="Image Hosted by ImageShack.us"/></a>&lt;br/&gt;Shot at 1969-12-31<br /><a href="http://imageshack.us"><img src="http://img527.imageshack.us/img527/9545/rdhindutannehilcs5.png" border="0" alt="Image Hosted by ImageShack.us"/></a>&lt;br/&gt;Shot at 1969-12-31 <a href="http://imageshack.us"><img src="http://img368.imageshack.us/img368/1412/rdhindutannbkkb7.png" border="0" alt="Image Hosted by ImageShack.us"/></a>&lt;br/&gt;Shot at 1969-12-31

Archive 06-25-2007 01:00 PM

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Posted By: <b>Pennsylvania Ted</b><p>I also have a Red HINDU Tannehill.......and, let's add Wheat to this mix.<br /><br />So, we have Duffy, McGraw, Tannehill, and Wheat....each in "triplicate"....now what does this tell us ?<br /><br />TED Z

Archive 06-25-2007 01:38 PM

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Posted By: <b>Brian Weisner</b><p><br /><br />Hi Ted,<br /> Add Gandil to the list, as I have seen 6 of them. Be well Brian

Archive 06-25-2007 03:49 PM

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Posted By: <b>Pennsylvania Ted</b><p>At the last Philly Show I saw a couple of Red HINDU Gandil cards. It's very interesting how certain<br /> ones show up in multiples.<br /><br />We are going to have to delve into this recurring matter.<br /><br />TED Z

Archive 06-25-2007 09:10 PM

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Posted By: <b>Paul S</b><p>Probably an oxymoron when it comes to Red Hindu.

Archive 06-25-2007 09:43 PM

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Posted By: <b>Paul S</b><p>Ted<br /><br />Odd thing about Gandil is I think he may show up with rarer backs with relative frequency (Gee, I'm an oxymoronist!) I have 3 Gandils, each with a different back -- Cycle, American Beauty and Tolstoi. I got them so long ago when collecting backs wasn't really a big deal, and I wouldn't have gone out of my way to get more than one.

Archive 06-26-2007 05:56 PM

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Posted By: <b>Aaron Seefeldt</b><p>Funny thing is when I had said: <br />McGraw, Tannehill, & Duffy seem to be more common than others...<br /><br />I was refering to McGraw Portrait with Hat as I've seen at least 4 different ones. <br /><br />Add McGraw Portrait with Hat to the red hindu list...

Archive 06-26-2007 06:08 PM

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Posted By: <b>Pennsylvania Ted</b><p>AARON<br /><br />Are you sure that you really mean the McGraw (with cap) ?<br /><br />I have never seen him on Red HINDU; and so far, he is not on my list of confirmed Red HINDU subjects.<br /><br />But, if you are certain....I will add him to list.<br /><br />TED Z


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