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Peter_Spaeth 05-13-2022 09:27 PM

Giancarlo Stanton -- any chance at the Hall?
 
I would have reflexively said no way, he's a guy who had one great year, but at 32 he's at 45 WAR (ahead of, for example, Dave Parker) and has over 350 HR. What do people think?

Seven 05-14-2022 04:55 AM

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Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth (Post 2224653)
I would have reflexively said no way, he's a guy who had one great year, but at 32 he's at 45 WAR (ahead of, for example, Dave Parker) and has over 350 HR. What do people think?

I think it depends on how he ages. If He's consistently hitting 35+ Homers over the next six or seven seasons it'd be hard not to put him in the Hall. But he needs to stay healthy.

John1941 05-14-2022 08:05 AM

Well, he definitely has the talent. I think he needs a few more monster years to solidify his greatness. He's 32, but he still hits the ball so hard I think he can do it. Just needs to stay healthy.

clydepepper 05-14-2022 02:02 PM

What if Nelson Cruz gets to 500? It's no guarantee like it used to be.

steve B 05-14-2022 02:20 PM

Anyone remember when 400Hr was a sure thing? Hasn't been for years, but todays stats seem crazy.

Peter_Spaeth 05-14-2022 07:17 PM

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Originally Posted by clydepepper (Post 2224858)
What if Nelson Cruz gets to 500? It's no guarantee like it used to be.

47 to go, but he's 41, on the other hand he's still hitting although his BA is bad so far this year. If I had to bet, I would bet he falls short.

dgo71 05-14-2022 07:46 PM

The 50-game PED suspension Nelson Cruz served will weigh heavier on his HOF chances than his home run total.

Mike D. 05-15-2022 03:59 PM

I think Stanton is a guy who it all comes down to what he does next...it's a good start, but 45 WAR doesn't get an outfielder into the Hall of Fame...at least not very often (Rice had 47.7 and is the borderline of borderlines).

If he can add positive value and play several more years, he'll have a shot. A few more really productive seasons, and he might get over the line.

Peter_Spaeth 05-15-2022 04:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Mike D. (Post 2225185)
I think Stanton is a guy who it all comes down to what he does next...it's a good start, but 45 WAR doesn't get an outfielder into the Hall of Fame...at least not very often (Rice had 47.7 and is the borderline of borderlines).

If he can add positive value and play several more years, he'll have a shot. A few more really productive seasons, and he might get over the line.

It worked for Oliva.

But I agree, Stanton has a ways to go, perhaps a long ways. I just wagered $300 he will get there. No, I didn't make a bet, I bought a rookie card lol.

KCRfan1 05-16-2022 12:19 PM

The loss of the 2019 and most of the 2020 seaon hurt him and others who are on a " cusp " of the Hall.

Add 50 homers and 150 rbi's to his line due to those missed years, and Stanton would be much better positioned.

Peter_Spaeth 05-16-2022 01:25 PM

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Originally Posted by KCRfan1 (Post 2225447)
The loss of the 2019 and most of the 2020 seaon hurt him and others who are on a " cusp " of the Hall.

Add 50 homers and 150 rbi's to his line due to those missed years, and Stanton would be much better positioned.

Agreed, but he's still just 32 and has time.

jayshum 05-18-2022 07:24 AM

32-33 seems to be the age when many players start to fade. Given Stanton's injury history, it will be interesting to see what happens with him.

bnorth 05-18-2022 03:14 PM

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Originally Posted by jayshum (Post 2225929)
32-33 seems to be the age when many players start to fade. Given Stanton's injury history, it will be interesting to see what happens with him.

I agree on the age most decline. Maybe Stanton can have that super rare Tony Gwynn insane bump and have by far his greatest 4 year run from age 34 to 37.


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