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nwobhm 12-06-2022 05:16 PM

Is this a fake Mantle in a PSA slab…?
 
…?

https://www.ebay.com/itm/13435295921...6&toolid=10001

nwobhm 12-06-2022 05:20 PM

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My understanding is that the real aren’t stark white and the bottom left T C G is supposed to be larger:

mikecala98 12-06-2022 05:25 PM

A fake reprint?

JollyElm 12-06-2022 08:56 PM

OP, you do see the word "REPRINT" on both the slab and the back of the card, right???

bswhiten 12-06-2022 09:27 PM

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You are correct. The slab listed on eBay is a fake reprint. PSA graded a ton of them. They will buy it back from you now if purchased.
The one on the left is the original reprint. The variety with the upward curving “e” was not in the reprint set. The fake is much brighter white too.

G1911 12-06-2022 09:48 PM

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Originally Posted by JollyElm (Post 2290957)
OP, you do see the word "REPRINT" on both the slab and the back of the card, right???

There's some fakes of the 1983 Topps reprint, which is fairly popular as the 'legit' reprint, even.

JollyElm 12-06-2022 10:47 PM

Wow, talk about being out of the loop. They're making forgeries of reprints?? Reprints??? That is something I never could've seen coming.

G1911 12-07-2022 12:33 AM

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Originally Posted by JollyElm (Post 2290985)
Wow, talk about being out of the loop. They're making forgeries of reprints?? Reprints??? That is something I never could've seen coming.

Seriously, it’s a weird hobby sometimes. I thought it was a joke when I first heard about them, but it’s a real thing. Faking reprints. What’s next?

ALR-bishop 12-07-2022 07:39 AM

I guess technically it is not a fake reprint. It is just an unlicensed unauthorized reprint. Darren— surely there needs to be some hobby terminology for such cards

JollyElm 12-07-2022 03:54 PM

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Originally Posted by ALR-bishop (Post 2291044)
I guess technically it is not a fake reprint. It is just an unlicensed unauthorized reprint. Darren— surely there needs to be some hobby terminology for such cards

I can offer up this relevant coming attraction from my 'New Collectorisms' thread...

Counter-refitter
A swindler who is able to seamlessly insert a phony replica or reprint card into an authentic slab to replace the valuable original he removed.

Peter_Spaeth 12-07-2022 04:01 PM

On the fake reprint, the "Record with" line is shifted significantly also.

Eric72 12-07-2022 09:05 PM

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Snap up those old Dover reprints now, boys. The pumpers-and-dumpers are about to move in on the next "smokin' hot trend" in the hobby.

Authentic Reprints!

:cool:


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$#!T, now that I've said it, I can actually envision this happening.

nwobhm 12-12-2022 04:13 AM

Card sold last night for $349.99.

Does this no go through the ebay authentication?

Front slab pictured # 65475500
Rear slab pictured # 65475497

Both front are rear, although different cards, are fakes.

swarmee 01-14-2023 06:19 PM

https://www.blowoutforums.com/showthread.php?t=1544854
Fake reprints flooding the market in PSA slabs.

bswhiten 01-15-2023 08:13 AM

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Originally Posted by swarmee (Post 2304344)
https://www.blowoutforums.com/showthread.php?t=1544854
Fake reprints flooding the market in PSA slabs.

Thanks for posting. PSA has known about the fakes for years. My guess is new graders. At least they reimbursed me, but who knows if any of the new buyers read forums to know what they actually bought.

swarmee 01-15-2023 08:20 AM

But take a look at the cert number listings of cards right around the ones you submitted. When they reimbursed you, they were aware they have graded dozens of others in multiple submissions, probably by the same person. PSA could have recalled them all at that time, and done the right thing.
But they never do. They just let the cards circulate until each individual wronged customer comes to them individually. And they likely still accept submissions from the same fraudster. Love it.

irv 01-15-2023 09:38 AM

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Originally Posted by swarmee (Post 2304477)
But take a look at the cert number listings of cards right around the ones you submitted. When they reimbursed you, they were aware they have graded dozens of others in multiple submissions, probably by the same person. PSA could have recalled them all at that time, and done the right thing.
But they never do. They just let the cards circulate until each individual wronged customer comes to them individually. And they likely still accept submissions from the same fraudster.
Love it.

Real salt of the earth types PSA are. :rolleyes:

bnorth 01-15-2023 02:16 PM

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Originally Posted by irv (Post 2304499)
Real salt of the earth types PSA are. :rolleyes:

Close, more like spreading salt on the earth type.:)


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