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calvindog 03-16-2015 01:35 PM

Doug Allen, post-indictment, still stealing -- from the Detroit Public Library!
 
http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/i-...icle-1.2151144

GoldenAge50s 03-16-2015 01:51 PM

His sentence may have just gotten longer!

packs 03-16-2015 01:52 PM

Does that mean he consigned items while shill bidding on his own auctions?

JeremyW 03-16-2015 02:29 PM

I thought I remembered seeing something...
 
http://www.net54baseball.com/showthr...9921&highlight

I wonder if this thread has anything to do with the missing Philadelphia photo?

drcy 03-16-2015 02:29 PM

One normally sends items to a consignment auction house in anticipation that they will sell them. Don't know why else you'd give them your stuff. Sounds more like a mixup/miscommunication than a high crime.

packs 03-16-2015 02:35 PM

Oh wait I see it says he sent checks to the library. That would support your post.

NewEnglandBaseBallist 03-16-2015 02:45 PM

What a POS.

NewEnglandBaseBallist 03-16-2015 02:56 PM

And I really hope that folks in the hobby don't convienently forget what he did 12 years from now when he's out of prison.

bdecsports 03-16-2015 02:58 PM

Doug Allen - Detroit Library
 
The photos from the Detroit library were consigned through Harwell's attorney, prior to the City of Detroit going bankrupt. The Baltimore photo was sold at their National auction prior to their bankruptcy, I don't recall the Philadelphia photo, but the other photos were included in their auction after the national, which included all of the T200 Fatima premiums, but they were all pulled post bankruptcy.

bnorth 03-16-2015 03:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NewEnglandBaseBallist (Post 1391064)
And I really hope that folks in the hobby don't convienently forget what he did 12 years from now when he's out of prison.

LOL If he had a item for sale cheap people would line up today to buy it.

Peter_Spaeth 03-16-2015 03:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bnorth (Post 1391068)
LOL If he had a item for sale cheap people would line up today to buy it.

If ISIS had good material they could pull off a successful auction.

ullmandds 03-16-2015 03:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth (Post 1391074)
If ISIS had good material they could pull off a successful auction.

Sad but true...if ISIS/ISIL had a Miller I needed for my run...I'd consider bidding!!!!!!:rolleyes:

D.P.Johnson 03-16-2015 03:31 PM

Before you know it he'll be working with the FEDS as a "shilling" expert and everyone will think he's the best thing since sliced bread...

ullmandds 03-16-2015 03:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by D.P.Johnson (Post 1391083)
Before you know it he'll be working with the FEDS as a "shilling" expert and everyone will think he's the best thing since sliced bread...

kinda like peter nice!

D.P.Johnson 03-16-2015 03:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ullmandds (Post 1391086)
kinda like peter nice!

Yep. In this day and age it seems all anyone needs to do is say, "I'm sorry. I'm now a reformed __________(Fill in the blank: shiller, scammer, forger)" and all is forgiven...

ullmandds 03-16-2015 04:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by D.P.Johnson (Post 1391089)
Yep. In this day and age it seems all anyone needs to do is say, "I'm sorry. I'm now a reformed __________(Fill in the blank: shiller, scammer, forger)" and all is forgiven...

well it's better than continuing to lie even after being found guilty I suppose?

HRBAKER 03-16-2015 05:14 PM

Libraries seem to form a great source of material for the hobby.

Runscott 03-16-2015 05:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by D.P.Johnson (Post 1391089)
Yep. In this day and age it seems all anyone needs to do is say, "I'm sorry. I'm now a reformed __________(Fill in the blank: shiller, scammer, forger)" and all is forgiven...

Are you knocking your hobby friends for being forgiving, or criminals for reforming? :confused:

slidekellyslide 03-16-2015 05:49 PM

As long as they are still investigating can they go back to that "gypsy" incident at Lionel Carter's home?

calvindog 03-16-2015 06:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by D.P.Johnson (Post 1391083)
Before you know it he'll be working with the FEDS as a "shilling" expert and everyone will think he's the best thing since sliced bread...

He already tried working for the feds but obstructed justice by tipping off that other paragon of virtue/intelligence John Rogers about an impending search of his home.

wonkaticket 03-16-2015 06:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JeremyW (Post 1391052)
http://www.net54baseball.com/showthr...9921&highlight

I wonder if this thread has anything to do with the missing Philadelphia photo?

No that isn't the photo in question. Not gonna lie I did do a double take today when I read the article Jeff posted and made a few phone calls just to be sure.

The photo in that thread was won by me and came from the collection of the late Tony Carafeil a legitimate collector/consignor.

Cheers,

John

JeremyW 03-16-2015 06:40 PM

John- That's good to hear. I apologize, didn't mean to call your photo into question. I jumped to a conclusion.

mets41 03-16-2015 09:55 PM

allen's not sorry about what he did--he's sorry he got caught.

wonkaticket 03-16-2015 10:31 PM

Jeremy no worries no need to apologize I thought the same thing when I saw the article...uh oh did I buy the missing photo. :confused::)

Kenny Cole 03-16-2015 10:40 PM

Unfortunate that there is even an article to be discussed. At this point he just needs to go away and pay his penance. Hard to feel sorry for a guy who the available facts indicate that he'd screw you, even if you were his "friend," if that kicked the price up. That's a pretty sorry guy.

ElCabron 03-16-2015 11:26 PM

Kenny, are you implying that Doug is not my friend?

-Ryan

calvindog 03-17-2015 06:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ElCabron (Post 1391268)
Kenny, are you implying that Doug is not my friend?

-Ryan

He's just your hobby-friend, Ryan. Sorry.

Peter_Spaeth 03-17-2015 06:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by slidekellyslide (Post 1391149)
As long as they are still investigating can they go back to that "gypsy" incident at Lionel Carter's home?

You mean you don't take the explanation we were given at face value?:rolleyes:

slidekellyslide 03-17-2015 08:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth (Post 1391295)
You mean you don't take the explanation we were given at face value?:rolleyes:

I wish I could find that DVD Mastro sent with the catalog.

packs 03-17-2015 08:22 AM

What was the gypsy incident?

Kenny Cole 03-17-2015 08:25 AM

Ryan, lol in my estimation he probably isn't your friend. On the other hand, I am your friend. Sell your friend some of the cards you own that I want:)

Leon 03-17-2015 08:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by calvindog (Post 1391293)
He's just your hobby-friend, Ryan. Sorry.

Yes but "hobby friend" only goes so far too....

CW 03-17-2015 09:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by slidekellyslide (Post 1391308)
I wish I could find that DVD Mastro sent with the catalog.

It was posted last year in a revival of this old thread started by you years ago. Here's the link to the vid...

Quote:

Originally Posted by ErikV (Post 1260958)
The video was uploaded to my gmail drive. It should be viewable
using the following link:

https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B2_...it?usp=sharing

ErikV


slidekellyslide 03-17-2015 12:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CW (Post 1391328)
It was posted last year in a revival of this old thread started by you years ago. Here's the link to the vid...

Thanks for the link.

Peter_Spaeth 03-17-2015 12:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by packs (Post 1391311)
What was the gypsy incident?

According to Doug, Lionel Carter's collection was stolen from his home in broad daylight by gypsies, and eventually -- just as Doug had predicted, with remarkable prescience -- was returned completely intact ("dropped off on his doorstep" or something to that effect) and then shortly thereafter consigned to Mastro because Carter was so terrorized by the incident.

Cliffnotes version anyhow.


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