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wdwfan 04-17-2021 09:47 AM

Question of authenticity on this Mantle
 
Was going to post this on a couple of different boards, but I figured I'd get the answers I'm needing here and quickly. Looking for answers as to authenticity on this 1966T Mantle. I've scanned both the front and back. It looks really nice obviously, almost too nice to be honest.

But I checked and it doesn't say reprint anywhere. I measured it against some of my other 66T that I know are authentic, and it was the same size. It also feels nearly the same as the rest of my 66T I have. One of the things that does concern me is the brown tinting on the back right side of the card as seen in the second scan.

Anyway, here's the card I'm asking about...

https://i.imgur.com/B8wd5IG.jpg?1

https://i.imgur.com/RY3lAI6.jpg?1

Hxcmilkshake 04-17-2021 10:03 AM

Idk....the 1st scan has a green tint...not sure if that's your pic or what....how does the card stock feel? It looks like a too well centered counterfeit but you should be able to tell from the card stock.

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wdwfan 04-17-2021 10:34 AM

As I said it feels pretty close to the other 66s I have. And when I did the scan and did the auto brightness it gave it a green tint. I will see if I can redo the scan and not do autofix the colors.

And the centering is of concern. It's almost too good

ASF123 04-17-2021 10:49 AM

Do you have a 10x magnifying loupe? If not, get one - you should be able to tell from the printing dot pattern. From the scan above it looks suspect to me - the name looks like it might have a printing pattern when it should be a solid color.

swarmee 04-17-2021 10:51 AM

https://www.net54baseball.com/forum/...ivecenter.html
Click link, scroll to bottom of page. Click one of those.

CobbSpikedMe 04-17-2021 11:40 AM

For some reason it just doesn't look vintage to me. It looks like a modern card. Too perfect maybe?? :confused:

Vegas Cards 04-17-2021 11:43 AM

I looked at the back of mine. The area outside of the boxes is a lighter shade of peach, looks to be a different color than yours

https://i.imgur.com/vTv1eq3l.jpg

Cliff Bowman 04-17-2021 11:44 AM

I counted six different eBay listings of 1966 Topps Mickey Mantle counterfeit cards, this one is almost certainly one of them.

Bigdaddy 04-17-2021 12:11 PM

I will bet you lunch that it is counterfeit. Too perfect and the photo just looks 'off'.

wdwfan 04-17-2021 02:41 PM

Okay everyone, I looked it at through my 10x loop and I saw no print dots. Looked just like it was painted on or something. There were no printer marks/dots whatever they're called. I checked the PSA 4 copy that I have currently FS/FT, and it does show the printing dots.

That said, I told the guy that's trying to sell it to me that it's fake. My heart tells me it's just too good to be true. He's asking $150 for it, so that wasn't a red flag or anything. He said he'll show me and that he'll send it off this week to PSA and it'll come back a 8-9 or better and then be worth a couple of thousand. But it's my loss, he said.

I wanted to thank everyone on the board for their help. Was really hoping it'd be real because I'd have one for my set (I don't want the graded one in my set, and that's why I'm trying to move it).

By the way, here's the graded copy I currently have "with my set" although it's not in my set in the notebook in its place. Posting it just to show the difference in the non graded one and the graded one, and there is quite a bit of difference.

https://i.imgur.com/fXzWlkx.jpg?1

ASF123 04-17-2021 02:54 PM

$150 for one in that nice condition would probably be at least somewhat of a red flag as well.

JollyElm 04-17-2021 04:04 PM

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A little late to the party, but the clear tell to me is the top border. It's as smooth as a Brazilian wax, when it should have all sorts of discernible bumps/pockmarks across it, most especially in the top right corner. There is 'always' a black protuberance (that's a ten cent word!) appearing there. Here are a couple of random scans showing what I mean...

Attachment 452769

The other notable anomaly is where the black hits the red "Yankees" banner. It is never a perfectly smooth transition from black to red across that top border. Never. It should be jagged.


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