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04-02-2009 03:07 PM

Red Cobb survey of all its 30 backs....post your inputs ?

Posted By: Ted ZanidakisThere is no argument that the Red portrait Cobb was American Lithographic's "signature picture" for its white bordered T-card sets. This picture of Cobb appears on at least 30 white bordered cards with various Tobacco advertising backs. But, there appears to be some argument regarding the relative scarcity of its 11 toughest T206 backs. So, let's run a survey and see what results. <img src="http://i603.photobucket.com/albums/tt113/zanted86/abredcobbsov460.jpg" alt="[linked image]"> <img src="http://i529.photobucket.com/albums/dd339/tz1234zaz/broadleaf460back.jpg" alt="[linked image]"> I will start this survey with 2 of my 4 red Cobb cards. 0....BROAD LEAF 460 0....DRUM 0....HINDU (red) 0....LENOX (black) 0....UZIT 1....SOVEREIGN 460 1....PIEDMONT 460 Factory 42 0....CAROLINA BRIGHTS 0....AMERICAN BEAUTY 350 0....CYCLE 460 0....EPDG OK, guys and gals.....how about running up the numbers.....show and/or tell us about your red Cobb(s) ? Remember, this survey is not limited to just these 11 backs....any Red Cobb is welcome to this study. Thanks for your time an effort responding to this survey. TED Z

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04-02-2009 03:16 PM

Red Cobb survey of all its 30 backs....post your inputs ?

Posted By: andy beckerwhen i collected red cobbs, i had: sov 460 cb piedmont 42 i no longer own any of these.

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04-02-2009 03:19 PM

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Posted By: stefanpiedmont 42 and tolstoi.

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04-02-2009 03:20 PM

Red Cobb survey of all its 30 backs....post your inputs ?

Posted By: stefanAmerican beauty 350 with frame.

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04-02-2009 03:20 PM

Red Cobb survey of all its 30 backs....post your inputs ?

Posted By: PaulI have one Piedmont350-460 Factory 42!

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04-02-2009 03:26 PM

Red Cobb survey of all its 30 backs....post your inputs ?

Posted By: Bob ManningSweet Cap 350

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04-02-2009 03:35 PM

Red Cobb survey of all its 30 backs....post your inputs ?

Posted By: RichardI had a lenox that I crossed from a GAI 2 holder to an SGC 2 holder. I also own one factory 42 and one carolina brights.

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04-02-2009 03:35 PM

Red Cobb survey of all its 30 backs....post your inputs ?

Posted By: Jim RiveraSovereign 350

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04-02-2009 03:48 PM

Red Cobb survey of all its 30 backs....post your inputs ?

Posted By: peter ullmani have none...but...it seems there are a lot of pied fact 42's out there...odd?

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04-02-2009 03:54 PM

Red Cobb survey of all its 30 backs....post your inputs ?

Posted By: Brian E.Of the T206 Cobb Red Portraits that I consider scarce backs I have On your list: Lenox (on ebay right now) Carolina Brights Piedmont F42 Not on your list: Broadleaf 460 American Beauty Cycle 460 EPDG

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04-02-2009 04:26 PM

Red Cobb survey of all its 30 backs....post your inputs ?

Posted By: RichardBroadleaf 460 clearly belongs on the short list. Perhaps at or near the top.

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04-02-2009 04:31 PM

Red Cobb survey of all its 30 backs....post your inputs ?

Posted By: stefanbroadleaf, and hindu's should be at the top.

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04-02-2009 04:35 PM

Red Cobb survey of all its 30 backs....post your inputs ?

Posted By: Brian E.I would say that a Cobb Hindu Red or Black is more difficult to find than a Lenox or Uzit. Just my thoughts after looking for a Cobb hindu for a few years

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04-02-2009 04:53 PM

Red Cobb survey of all its 30 backs....post your inputs ?

Posted By: barry arnoldjust a good ole regular Piedmont 350 that i'll never part with,Ted. <img src="/images/happy.gif" height="14" width="14" alt="happy.gif"> best, barry

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04-02-2009 05:28 PM

Red Cobb survey of all its 30 backs....post your inputs ?

Posted By: Aaron SeefeldtGreat thread Ted.

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04-02-2009 06:10 PM

Red Cobb survey of all its 30 backs....post your inputs ?

Posted By: Frank A.Have a Sweet Cap 350 back, fac. 25. Frank A.

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04-02-2009 07:03 PM

Red Cobb survey of all its 30 backs....post your inputs ?

Posted By: Ted Zanidakis<img src="http://i603.photobucket.com/albums/tt113/zanted86/abredcobbsov460.jpg" alt="[linked image]"> 1st....As I've already stated, the BROAD LEAF 460 is not on the list because there is no debate that it is absolutely the scarcest. Anyhow, I doubt that more than 2 examples would be reported here. 2nd....This survey was mainly prompted by a discussion regarding the relative scarcity of this Cobb with DRUM, LENOX, Red HINDU and UZIT backs. I added the CAROLINA BRIGHTS, PIEDMONT 460/42 and the SOVEREIGN 460 to this survey because I feel that these 3 are also quite scarce. But, since some have requested here, I now have added AMERICAN BEAUTY 350, CYCLE 460 and EPDG backs to this survey. OK, get this straight....the order that the backs are listed here has no relation to their scarcity...... that is what we are trying to determine from this survey. Updated survey...... 0....DRUM 0....HINDU (red) 2....LENOX (black) 0....UZIT 2....SOVEREIGN 460 6....PIEDMONT 460 Factory 42 3....CAROLINA BRIGHTS 2....AMERICAN BEAUTY 350 1....CYCLE 460 1....EPDG Good start, guys; but, we need a lot more inputs to get an accurate sampling. Where are all the Red Cobb's that I know are out there in Net54-land ? TED Z

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04-02-2009 07:10 PM

Red Cobb survey of all its 30 backs....post your inputs ?

Posted By: Art M.Ted, Here are the T206 Cobb, red, cards that I have: American beauty 350 with frame Carolina brights Cycle 460 Old Mill Piedmont 350, factory 25 Piedmont 350-460, factory 42 Polar Bear Sovereign 350 Sovereign 460 Sweet Cap 350, factory 30 Sweet Cap 350-460, factory 30 Sweet Cap 350-460, factory 42 with overprint Tolstoi T213 Coupon, type 2 Good luck with the survey. Art

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04-03-2009 03:06 AM

Red Cobb survey of all its 30 backs....post your inputs ?

Posted By: Ted ZanidakisUPDATED survey....4/3/09....adding Art's inputs and an email from a Net54 reader. 0....DRUM 1....HINDU (red) 2....LENOX (black) 0....UZIT 3....SOVEREIGN 460 7....PIEDMONT 460 Factory 42 4....CAROLINA BRIGHTS 4....AMERICAN BEAUTY 350 2....CYCLE 460 1....EPDG So far, only 24 inputs......it would be nice to get 100+ responses. This is a very popular card, how about it Net54er's, tell us of your Red Cobb (s) ? TED Z

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04-03-2009 10:01 AM

Red Cobb survey of all its 30 backs....post your inputs ?

Posted By: Frank WakefieldGolly, Ted... you asked to hear about my red portrait Cobb. I have one, the only one I've ever had in the white border set. It isn't on you're list, because it's common I reckon... Piedmont 350-460 factory 25. Now I've told you about my red Cobb, as asked!!

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04-03-2009 10:21 AM

Red Cobb survey of all its 30 backs....post your inputs ?

Posted By: J HullMine's also not on your list, Ted. Sweet Caporal 350-460 with overprint.

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04-03-2009 10:54 AM

Red Cobb survey of all its 30 backs....post your inputs ?

Posted By: Ted ZanidakisYou have a T206 Cobb (bat off shoulder) with a rare back that NONE of the Red Cobb collector's have (and will never have). An AMERICAN BEAUTY 460 back....and, I know you are very proud of this card <img src="/images/happy.gif" height="14" width="14" alt="happy.gif"> Regards, TED Z

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04-03-2009 11:41 AM

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Posted By: Bruce BabcockI have a Sweet Cap 350, Factory 30. Not rare. Nobody asked but my green portrait is an Old Mill Factory 25. Also not rare. But they are two of my favorites and, although I've sold almost all of my T206s, I can't seem to part with these.

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04-03-2009 12:35 PM

Red Cobb survey of all its 30 backs....post your inputs ?

Posted By: Mark Tylicki<img src="http://www.rustywilly.com/cards/PSACARD/8150887_011_FRONT.jpg" alt="[linked image]"> <img src="http://www.rustywilly.com/cards/PSACARD/8150887_011_BACK.jpg" alt="[linked image]"> ------------------------------ MY COLLECTION: <a href="http://www.rustywilly.com/MYCOLLECTION.htm" target="_new" rel="nofollow">http://www.rustywilly.com/MYCOLLECTION.htm</a>

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04-03-2009 01:37 PM

Red Cobb survey of all its 30 backs....post your inputs ?

Posted By: David RI have one red Cobb. It has an Old Mill back.

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04-03-2009 03:34 PM

Red Cobb survey of all its 30 backs....post your inputs ?

Posted By: Scott LevyWow 7 P42s. That is an impressive hoard of those toughies....

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04-03-2009 03:36 PM

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Posted By: Craig WHi Ted, I have a Piedmont Factory 42 and a Polar Bear. Craig

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04-03-2009 05:47 PM

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Posted By: Ted ZanidakisThanks for all your inputs, guys. Also, I have received 6 emailed inputs from Net54 readers. I'll tally up the data and post an updated list later tonite. For you guys who have posted your Cobb's with backs other than these 10 scarcest ones, I appreciate your inputs and near the end of this survey these backs will also be tallied. We are on a roll here, keep the inputs rolling in. We can't have enough Red Cobb's....can we ? TED Z

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04-03-2009 06:21 PM

Red Cobb survey of all its 30 backs....post your inputs ?

Posted By: Dave HornishTed, since you are doing an overall tally as well my Red Cobb is a Piedmont 350, as I suspect many others are as well.

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04-03-2009 08:06 PM

Red Cobb survey of all its 30 backs....post your inputs ?

Posted By: Ted ZanidakisThe most often seen backs on the Red Cobb's are...... PIEDMONT 350 Factory 25 SWEET CAPORAL 350 Factory 30 POLAR BEAR TED Z

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04-03-2009 09:31 PM

Red Cobb survey of all its 30 backs....post your inputs ?

Posted By: Ted ZanidakisThanks guys and 6 inputs emailed from Net54 readers. UPDATED survey....4/4/09 0....DRUM 1....HINDU (red) 3....LENOX (black) 0....UZIT 3....SOVEREIGN 460 9....PIEDMONT 460 Factory 42 4....CAROLINA BRIGHTS 7....AMERICAN BEAUTY 350 3....CYCLE 460 2....EPDG OK, we have 32 total inputs....we need a lot more data points here in order to arrive at some valid conclusions. Check-out your Red Cobb's and tell us about them ? TED Z

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04-03-2009 10:52 PM

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Posted By: Lee BehrensProbably no surprise but I have a Cycle 460. I have noticed that people posted about cards they once owned, are they being counted? Lee

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04-04-2009 05:55 AM

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Posted By: Rick McQuillanHI Ted, You can put me down for a Piedmont 350/460 25/2. Thanks, Rick

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04-04-2009 08:59 AM

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Posted By: Ted ZanidakisThanks for your CYCLE 460 input.....I rarely see a Red Cobb with this back. All inputs are being tallied....even if you do not have your Red Cobb, anymore. TED Z

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04-04-2009 09:04 AM

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Posted By: hennesseyTed, I have 1 with a polar bear back for your survey

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04-04-2009 01:02 PM

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Posted By: David McDonaldTed: I have a Red Cobb with Old Mill back (per my e-mail last night). DMcD

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04-04-2009 03:50 PM

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Posted By: BillTed, My Red Cobb has a Tolstoi back. Bill

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04-05-2009 04:02 PM

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Posted By: Ted ZanidakisThanks for all your inputs. The daily update will be posted as soon as I can sort out the 5 emails that I received on this subject from Net54 readers. TED Z

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04-05-2009 04:24 PM

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Posted By: Ted Zanidakis<img src="http://i603.photobucket.com/albums/tt113/zanted86/abredcobbsov460.jpg" alt="[linked image]"> UPDATED survey....4/5/09 Scarcest group...... 0....DRUM 1....HINDU (red) 3....LENOX (black) 0....UZIT 3....SOVEREIGN 460 9....PIEDMONT 460 Factory 42 4....CAROLINA BRIGHTS 7....AMERICAN BEAUTY 350 4....CYCLE 460 2....EPDG Next group...... 2....TOLSTOI 4....OLD MILL 2....SOVEREIGN 350 2....SWEET CAPORAL 460 Factory 42 (ovpt) 2....SWEET CAPORAL 46O Factory 30 1....SWEET CAPORAL 350 Factory 25 2....SWEET CAPORAL 350 Factory 30 6....PIEDMONT 460 Factory 25 7....POLAR BEAR OK, we have 61 total inputs....we need a lot more data points here in order to arrive at some valid conclusions. Check-out your Red Cobb's and tell us about them ? TED Z

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04-05-2009 05:35 PM

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Posted By: jackgoodmanPut me down for a Piedmont fact 25 and a Tolstoi.

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04-06-2009 08:38 AM

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Posted By: Ted ZanidakisThanks JACK G for your input. And, there are 4 more inputs from Net54 readers. <img src="http://i603.photobucket.com/albums/tt113/zanted86/abredcobbsov460.jpg" alt="[linked image]"> UPDATED survey....4/6/09 Scarcest group...... 0....DRUM 1....HINDU (red) 3....LENOX (black) 0....UZIT 3....SOVEREIGN 460 9....PIEDMONT 460 Factory 42 4....CAROLINA BRIGHTS 7....AMERICAN BEAUTY 350 4....CYCLE 460 2....EPDG Next toughest group...... 2....SOVEREIGN 350 0....SWEET CAPORAL 46O Factory 25 1....SWEET CAPORAL 460 Factory 42 2....SWEET CAPORAL 460 Factory 42 (ovpt) 4....TOLSTOI 4....OLD MILL The easier ones...... 2....SWEET CAPORAL 46O Factory 30 1....SWEET CAPORAL 350 Factory 25 2....SWEET CAPORAL 350 Factory 30 6....PIEDMONT 460 Factory 25 4....PIEDMONT 350 Factory 25 7....POLAR BEAR OK, we have 68 total inputs; but, we need a lot more data points here in order to arrive at some valid conclusions. Guys & gals, do not be shy about telling us of your Red Cobb cards.....check-out your T206's and post them here ? TED Z

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04-06-2009 08:41 AM

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Posted By: Jeff LichtmanTed, I'll post mine tonight. Also, this survey cannot be complete until the carpet guy from Michigan chimes in after he's done rioting after basketball tonight. He's the Nelson & Bunker Hunt of red Cobbs.

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04-07-2009 05:46 AM

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Posted By: Ted Zanidakis<img src="/images/happy.gif" height="14" width="14" alt="happy.gif"> still looking forward to seeing your Cobb's <img src="/images/happy.gif" height="14" width="14" alt="happy.gif"> TED Z

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04-07-2009 06:11 AM

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Posted By: Kenny ColeMine has a Polar Bear back.

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04-07-2009 06:16 AM

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Posted By: Anonymouscycle 350 2 sweet caporal 30 NY

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04-07-2009 09:25 AM

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Posted By: Martin NealPiedmont 350 factory 25

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04-07-2009 03:52 PM

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Posted By: MikeSweet Caporal 350 Factory # 30.

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04-07-2009 04:07 PM

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Posted By: Jeff Prillamanpicked up 4 red Border Cobbs today three are 350/460 25/2 the other is Old Mill Factory 25/2nd district

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04-07-2009 07:23 PM

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Posted By: Ted ZanidakisThanks guys for posting your Cobb's and thanks to all the Net54 readers that've contacted me. <img src="http://i603.photobucket.com/albums/tt113/zanted86/abredcobbsov460.jpg" alt="[linked image]"> UPDATED survey....4/7/09 Scarcest group...... ..1....BROAD LEAF 460 ..0....DRUM ..1....HINDU (red) ..3....LENOX (black) ..0....UZIT ..3....SOVEREIGN 460 10....PIEDMONT 460 Factory 42 ..5....CAROLINA BRIGHTS ..4....CYCLE 460 ..2....EPDG Next toughest group...... ..7....AMERICAN BEAUTY 350 ..1....CYCLE 350 ..3....SOVEREIGN 350 ..0....SWEET CAPORAL 46O Factory 25 ..1....SWEET CAPORAL 460 Factory 42 ..2....SWEET CAPORAL 460 Factory 42 (ovpt) ..5....TOLSTOI ..7....OLD MILL The easier ones...... ..2....SWEET CAPORAL 46O Factory 30 ..1....SWEET CAPORAL 350 Factory 25 ..9....SWEET CAPORAL 350 Factory 30 10....PIEDMONT 460 Factory 25 10....PIEDMONT 350 Factory 25 ..9....POLAR BEAR OK, we have 96 total inputs.....but, we need many more data points in order to arrive at some valid conclusions. Guys & gals, do not be shy about telling us of your Red Cobb cards....hop onto this bandwagon and add your Cobb to this list. Who will be the first to reach the 100th input ? TED Z

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04-08-2009 04:32 AM

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Posted By: Scott LevyTed, You are a pro at front back variations....what's the deal with 10 factory 42s -- seems way out of line with that back's perceived scarcity.

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04-08-2009 05:31 AM

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Posted By: Bob DonaldsonCycle 460

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04-08-2009 08:31 AM

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Posted By: Ted Zanidakis1st....the 10 red Cobb's reported (so far) with PIEDMONT 460 Fac. 42 do not surprise me in the least. If we were to get a lot more participation in this survey (at least 200 inputs), we would get a more realistic perspective. And, the 10 red Cobb's with P460/42 backs would not seem out of line. 2nd....in a P460/42 survey that I ran last November, the six super-prints (this red Cobb is one) were more often reported with P460/42 backs than other 350/460 subjects. Furthermore, I have a theory why this Cobb is found with many P460/42 backs. The PIEDMONT brand was very popular in the South- east, so American Litho. printed up many red Cobb's at the tail end of the PIEDMONT run and shipped them to Durham, NC (Factory 42) to be inserted into the L&M PIEDMONT packs. 3rd....Finally, In recent years, P460/42 cards have been sought after much more so than in the past. The 1st T206 set that I put together back in the 1980's had 4 - P460/42 cards in it....that I was not even aware of. Simply, because this back was seldom seen (most collectors were unaware of it). When Bill Heitman published The Monster in 1980, Red HINDU backed T206's were virtually unknown. TED Z

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04-08-2009 08:41 AM

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Posted By: DrewHi Ted My red Cobbs sweet cap 350..30 tolstoi Drew

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04-08-2009 08:43 AM

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Posted By: Scott StifflerSweet Cap 350 / factory 30

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04-08-2009 09:12 AM

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Posted By: Frank A.Ted; I am not reporting another Cobb, but pulled my card out to check the factory number again. It is a Sweet Cap factory 25, 350 back. Are these for some reason scarce, as I see all others are fac 30

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04-08-2009 11:07 AM

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Posted By: Ted ZanidakisThe Red Cobb is not often seen with a Sweet Caporal 350 Factory 25 (VA) back. And, it is less seen with a Sweet Caporal 460 Factory 25 back. I'm not sure why this is so....as the Factory 30 (NY) versions of both these Sweet Caps are very plentiful. TED Z

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04-08-2009 01:57 PM

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Posted By: ErikV I have a red back Cobb (PSA 3).....Piedmont It's a 350/460 back, factory 25/dist. 2. Edited to include t-brand.

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04-08-2009 05:56 PM

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Posted By: Ted ZanidakisYou left out the T-brand on your " xx 460 Fac, 25 " Cobb ? TED Z

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04-08-2009 05:57 PM

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Posted By: Ted ZanidakisThanks BOB, DREW, SCOTT and ERIK for your Cobb inputs and thanks to two Net54 readers that have contacted me with their inputs. <img src="http://i603.photobucket.com/albums/tt113/zanted86/abredcobbsov460.jpg" alt="[linked image]"> UPDATED survey....4/8/09 Scarcest group...... ..1....BROAD LEAF 460 ..0....DRUM ..1....HINDU (red) ..3....LENOX (black) ..0....UZIT ..3....SOVEREIGN 460 10....PIEDMONT 460 Factory 42 ..5....CAROLINA BRIGHTS ..5....CYCLE 460 ..2....EPDG Next toughest group...... ..7....AMERICAN BEAUTY 350 ..1....CYCLE 350 ..3....SOVEREIGN 350 ..0....SWEET CAPORAL 46O Factory 25 ..1....SWEET CAPORAL 460 Factory 42 ..2....SWEET CAPORAL 460 Factory 42 (ovpt) ..6....TOLSTOI ..7....OLD MILL The easier ones...... ..2....SWEET CAPORAL 46O Factory 30 ..1....SWEET CAPORAL 350 Factory 25 11....SWEET CAPORAL 350 Factory 30 10....PIEDMONT 460 Factory 25 12....PIEDMONT 350 Factory 25 ..9....POLAR BEAR OK, we have 102 total inputs.....but, we still need many more data points in order to arrive at some valid conclusions. Guys & gals, do not be shy about telling us of your Red Cobb cards....hop onto this bandwagon and add your Cobb(s) to this list. Hey JEFF L....where are all these Cobb's you have ? TED Z

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04-08-2009 07:13 PM

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Posted By: Marc S.included above come from a collector? If so, you might want to add in the example that is in REA to your population.

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04-08-2009 08:45 PM

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Posted By: Ted ZanidakisThe Red HINDU recorded in the survey list is the one from the current REA auction. TED Z

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04-09-2009 12:44 PM

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Posted By: JBPiedmont 350................add one for that Cobb.

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04-09-2009 02:35 PM

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Posted By: JustinI have a Sweet Caporal 350-460 overprint

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04-09-2009 03:18 PM

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Posted By: David McDonaldKeep up the good work, Ted. <img src="http://photos.imageevent.com/kawika_o_ka_pakipika/bbbofsfirstclass/miscellanybaseball/websize/exexCobb%20holding%20T206ex.jpg" alt="[linked image]">

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04-15-2009 08:05 AM

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Posted By: Ted ZanidakisReceived 11 more inputs, since I've been "computer-less"....so, here is the updated tally for anyone still interested. <img src="http://i603.photobucket.com/albums/tt113/zanted86/abredcobbsov460.jpg" alt="[linked image]"> UPDATED survey....4/15/09 Scarcest group...... ..1....BROAD LEAF 460 ..0....DRUM ..1....HINDU (red) ..3....LENOX (black) ..0....UZIT ..3....SOVEREIGN 460 10....PIEDMONT 460 Factory 42 ..5....CAROLINA BRIGHTS ..5....CYCLE 460 ..2....EPDG Next toughest group...... ..7....AMERICAN BEAUTY 350 ..1....CYCLE 350 ..3....SOVEREIGN 350 ..0....SWEET CAPORAL 46O Factory 25 ..1....SWEET CAPORAL 460 Factory 42 ..4....SWEET CAPORAL 460 Factory 42 (ovpt) ..6....TOLSTOI ..9....OLD MILL The easier ones...... ..3....SWEET CAPORAL 46O Factory 30 ..1....SWEET CAPORAL 350 Factory 25 12....SWEET CAPORAL 350 Factory 30 12....PIEDMONT 460 Factory 25 14....PIEDMONT 350 Factory 25 10....POLAR BEAR We have a total of 113 inputs....but, we need at least 200 inputs in order to arrive at some meaningful conclusions. Guys and gals, don't be shy....show or tell us of your Red Cobb cards. <img src="/images/happy.gif" height="14" width="14" alt="happy.gif"> Hey Jeff Lichtman......we are still waiting to see all your Red Cobb's....are you hoarding them ? <img src="/images/happy.gif" height="14" width="14" alt="happy.gif"> TED Z

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04-15-2009 09:15 AM

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Posted By: Jeff LichtmanTed, glad to see you again! We tried all that we could to lure you out of hiding on the new board -- to no avail! I've got a single red Cobb and it's a lowly Piedmont 350, factory 25.

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04-15-2009 09:26 AM

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Posted By: Craig WHi Ted, Last nite a T213-1 Red Cobb ended on ebay. I know you believe the Type 1 Coupons should be part of T206, so I thought you might like to be aware of it. (I tried a snipe of $1200, but obviously I got blown out of the water!) Here's the link: <a href="http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:I T&item=120401023810" target="_new" rel="nofollow">http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:I T&item=120401023810</a>

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04-15-2009 09:31 AM

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Posted By: Bruce MacAdd another Old Mill to your list.

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04-15-2009 10:10 AM

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Posted By: Ted ZanidakisI saw your's and John W's "lures"....as soon as I can get the software to enable my computer with it's new Hard Drive to work with my scanner....I will "blow you guys out of the water" with my T206 Cobb. Incidently, I must say, I'm disappointed that you did have some "exotic" Red Cobb's <img src="/images/happy.gif" height="14" width="14" alt="happy.gif"> TED Z

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04-15-2009 12:54 PM

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Posted By: Donavon ArabieCraig, I bid on the T213-1 Cobb as well, but couldn't make myself go any higher. The paperloss killed it for me & the top edge definately looked trimmed. Still a nice card, though.

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04-15-2009 03:20 PM

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Posted By: Ted ZanidakisI'm not going to add this "baby" to the survey list....lest I'll get grief from the " Burdick can't be wrong" crowd....and, who do I think I am to question him ? Thanx for bringing this 1910 Coupon to my attention. <img src="http://i603.photobucket.com/albums/tt113/zanted86/1910couponcobb.jpg" alt="[linked image]"> TED Z

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04-16-2009 11:58 AM

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Posted By: Brian Weisner Hi Ted, Here are my Red Cobb's..... 1 Carolina Brights 1 Polar Bear 1 EPDG 1 Old Mill 1 Sovereign 350 1 Piedmont 460 42 1 Sweet Cap 460 25 1 Piedmont 350 1 Sweet Cap 460 30 Be well Brian

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04-16-2009 12:11 PM

Red Cobb survey of all its 30 backs....post your inputs ?

Posted By: John<img src="http://photos.imageevent.com/piojohn3/junkforumimages/huge/jpeg.jpg" alt="[linked image]"> Ted funny you should say exotic Cobb's Jeff and I just purchased all these. All of the backs are Red Hindu....

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04-16-2009 01:28 PM

Red Cobb survey of all its 30 backs....post your inputs ?

Posted By: Ted ZanidakisThanks ole buddy......9 - Red Cobb's......now, that is really impressive. We might get to 200 cards, yet. Best regards, Brian. TED Z

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04-16-2009 01:28 PM

Red Cobb survey of all its 30 backs....post your inputs ?

Posted By: Ted ZanidakisYour array of 7 pastel colored Cobb's are a pretty sight to see......However, check-out my 2 extraordinary UZIT Cobb's...... The "exotic-ness" of these two Cobb's certainly trump your 7 Cobb's....<img src="/images/happy.gif" height="14" width="14" alt="happy.gif"> <img src="http://i603.photobucket.com/albums/tt113/zanted86/abredcobbuzitms.jpg" alt="[linked image]"> <img src="http://i603.photobucket.com/albums/tt113/zanted86/abcobbbatuzitms.jpg" alt="[linked image]"> American Litho. must of thought Cobb was brandishing his "weapon" on this one and printed him with their T80 series. T-Rex TED

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04-16-2009 01:34 PM

Red Cobb survey of all its 30 backs....post your inputs ?

Posted By: JohnLMAO...Ted Cobb always said baseball was like war.

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04-16-2009 03:55 PM

Red Cobb survey of all its 30 backs....post your inputs ?

Posted By: Bruce BabcockAnyone have a guess as to how many red Cobbs (including all backs) exist? Probably an easier question is, how many red Cobbs have been graded, all companies included?

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04-16-2009 04:15 PM

Red Cobb survey of all its 30 backs....post your inputs ?

Posted By: Jim VBBruce, PSA shows they have graded 1093. SGC shows 303. Edited to add - I'll check with GAI on Monday.

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04-16-2009 05:26 PM

Red Cobb survey of all its 30 backs....post your inputs ?

Posted By: Brian E.Ted, I noticed your list is seeking to track the Red Hindus but I don't see an entry for a regular Hindu....In the years that I've been collecting the different Cobb backs, I've seen more EPDG, Lenox, Cycle and Uzits than even a normal Hindu Cobb. Brian E.

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04-16-2009 05:35 PM

Red Cobb survey of all its 30 backs....post your inputs ?

Posted By: Dave HornishIs the Red Cobb the most graded card at PSA and SGC?

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