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T206Collector 08-22-2016 08:51 AM

T206 Bill Hinchman (Paper Stock)
 
Is it me, or does every Hinchman seem to be printed on a glossy and thinner paper stock than other T206s? Or, am I just getting all the good reprints...

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T206Collector 11-23-2016 06:04 AM

Just want to follow up on this. If you have a raw Hinchman, can you please check it and let me know what you think about the paper stock? Thanks!

Pat R 11-23-2016 06:36 AM

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I don't notice anything different on my raw Hinchman's and your
Hinchman doesn't look like a reprint. Do you have a back scan of your Hinchman?
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Jobu 11-23-2016 06:45 AM

This would almost be too good to be true, but do you have a T213-1 with which to compare your Hinchman?

Pat R 11-23-2016 06:53 AM

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It looks like yours is the same as mine on the right.
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T206Collector 11-23-2016 08:41 AM

I'll try to post a back scan this weekend. Pretty sure it's a Piedmont. The stock of the paper feels glossy and thin to me on all of these. Maybe it's just my imagination... :confused:

Pat R 11-23-2016 09:33 AM

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Originally Posted by T206Collector (Post 1604607)
I'll try to post a back scan this weekend. Pretty sure it's a Piedmont. The stock of the paper feels glossy and thin to me on all of these. Maybe it's just my imagination... :confused:

Just a guess but if it's a PD150 it might have a mark on the back like this.
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Luke 11-23-2016 09:43 AM

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I bought this one raw and it had that nice thick feel of a T206 that hasn't been handled much:

2dueces 11-23-2016 10:32 AM

Unless its the scan it's not sharp enough to be real. The print dot defects are identical to the real one. Just by feeling the paper you should tell right away its a reprint. Look at it with a magnifying glass. I bet you will see the print dots from a laser printer.

Looking closer I can see the laser dots on his elbow.

Pat R 11-23-2016 12:02 PM

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Originally Posted by 2dueces (Post 1604643)
Unless its the scan it's not sharp enough to be real. The print dot defects are identical to the real one. Just by feeling the paper you should tell right away its a reprint. Look at it with a magnifying glass. I bet you will see the print dots from a laser printer.

Looking closer I can see the laser dots on his elbow.

The thin glossy paper stock he describes does make it sound like something
is fishy with this card but I'm not sure what you see as print dots from a
laser printer on his elbow. A real T206 has "print dots" that show up if they are scanned at high dpi's.
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Cozumeleno 11-23-2016 08:13 PM

Mine actually feels like it is on slightly thinner stock as well. Definitely not a reprint and doesn't have the bright colors. But comparing it to others, it definitely doesn't feel as 'firm.'

But what I will say is I've run across a few on occasion that felt this way, too - was not only unique to Hinchman.

Leon 11-26-2016 12:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Cozumeleno (Post 1604861)
Mine actually feels like it is on slightly thinner stock as well. Definitely not a reprint and doesn't have the bright colors. But comparing it to others, it definitely doesn't feel as 'firm.'

But what I will say is I've run across a few on occasion that felt this way, too - was not only unique to Hinchman.

Maybe the printers just used slightly different stock sometimes?

Cozumeleno 11-27-2016 01:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Leon (Post 1605513)
Maybe the printers just used slightly different stock sometimes?

Yeah, I'm not sure. I have a few that feel that way but am 100% they are authentic. Not sure if it's different stock or just worn down more. But certainly have felt a few that are a little flimsier than others.

2dueces 11-28-2016 06:14 AM

Look how fuzzy it is between the bat and his uniform. I handled 100's of T206's.
They used the same stock. Remember, these were printed to add strength to cigarette packs. Using thin stock would defeat that purpose. I guess I'd have to see it in person.

PhillipAbbott79 11-28-2016 07:00 AM

I don't think they needed to be printed to achieve a stiffening factor. They could have easily inserted blank ones and saved the time and cost of doing the printing. Also, aren't the T213s thin paper stock?

I am curious to know how this was proven to be the motivation for producing them, or is it speculation?


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