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Posted By: <b>marshall barkman</b><p>After contacting Leon last night and informing him in regards to how i feel about Network54 here is a lovely e-mail sent to me by one of the outstanding politically correct members of Network54. Instead of the guy actually having the guts to be himself here and post his thoughts in a thread he decides to write my personal e-mail. I actually kind of like the guy but i wish he would have just been himself in public instead of a coward and e-mailing me personally. The world needs more personality. I posted this e-mail because others on here have acted like i do not get e-mails from folks in regards to Network54.<br><br><br><br>Marshall,<br> I am a regular visitor to network 54, but I in absolutely no way ever claim to be as knowledgeable about cards as people such as Dan, Leon, Jeff L., Sloate, or the rest of them. I could, however, not give a **** if you ever post there again. In short, well.... you're a douche bag. Face it. Tomorrow look in the mirror at yourself and honestly tell me that you're not a D-Bag. You can't do it. I've read all your posts and I know that you come from money that you spend on cards and horses and sweatbands that you probably wear on your wrist when you go to the mall. But all of those material items don't negate your douche-ness. The rest of of them are to kind to say it, but.... god you're a ****ing loser. <br> Don't sell yourself short though. As an audio engineer I really appreciate your music. I appreciate how ****ing horrible it is.<br><br>Elaine- Thank your bassist... for ripping off Nirvana. You ****ing Douche. "I'm sick and tired of all your ****. I've figured out who you are and it makes me sick." God someone give you an award. I can hook you up with SESAC. They love ****ty writers. Oh yeah, if you're a ****ing retard and didn't understand what I said at first, listen to Nirvana's "Polly" and then tell me your bassist is brillant. Because he's not. He's a joke just like you.<br><br>Super Girl- Nice three chord progression for the intro. ****ty Lyrics. Call SESAC. Also for the verse... nice three chord progression. No wonder you're famous.<br><br>Fate- Not even going to touch that one. To ****ing easy. <br><br>It's Okay- Yeah it's ****ing OK because they drown your piece of **** - muted chord - disaster of vocals in so much ****ing reverb I fell like I'm in blaring your song in Westminster Abbey. God you're a ****ing loser. <br><br>And what are you.... ****ing 40? Why the **** are you wearing sweatbands on your arm? <br><br>****. Seriously. <br><br>Do me a favor and accept the fact you're a joke and shut your **** face.<br><br>
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Posted By: <b>leon</b><p>Your last email to me, early early this morning, said you were leaving Net54. I don't hate you. I don't even dislike you, however, as I had said, I have a job to keep harmony on Net54 VBCF and you can't seem to understand that. If I protect you and lose 20 good, every day VINTAGE CARD folks (which you really aren't), have I done the community a service? regards
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Posted By: <b>Al C.risafulli</b><p>Well-played, Steve.<br><br>-Al
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Posted By: <b>Fred C</b><p>Seriously, did Steve Finley have the courtesy to insert all of those asterisks? I would think in a personal email he could have at least just spelled it out. This is the problem with our country today. People just wont say what's really on their minds...
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Posted By: <b>leon</b><p>I can safely say the original email didn't have asterisks in it....IF all of those that are so upset about Marshall would start a great Vintage card thread we would be in good shape. best regards
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Posted By: <b>barrysloate</b><p>I've been emailing Leon all morning and agreed not to start a thread about Marshall's conduct, but since Marshall started one himself then I will express my thoughts. And I know Marshall will neither listen to or care about what I have to say, but hopefully other board members will.<br><br>Marshall, it's time for you to go. Period. After a rocky start on Net54 I actually thought you were doing a pretty good job contributing to this community. A bit eccentric, no doubt, but certainly conforming to how we do things. But I always felt you were one post away from blowing it all.<br><br>And of course last night was the night. I know you don't give a hoot what anyone says about you, and frankly I could care less. But like it or not this board is a community, and if you can't agree to abide by a few rules of simple decorum, then I say you are not welcome here.<br><br>You insult Wonka, Al C., Joshua L., Jim VB, Joann, me, and just about anyone who crosses your path. These are really good intelligent people who don't need a smart-ass like you telling them otherwise. I don't give a sh*t about Marilyn Manson or how many naked women you've seen or what loser rock band you have been in, conform to the f*cking rules on this board or leave.
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Posted By: <b>rob</b><p>NOISE brought, Sloate-style. <br><br>by the way, when's the next auction Barry?
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Posted By: <b>Jim VB</b><p>OK. Who are you and what have you done with our real Barry Sloate?<br><br><br>
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Posted By: <b>leon</b><p>That isn't quite what I meant about starting a new thread but you are certainly entitled to espouse (is that the correct word?) your opinion, just like everyone else. I guess I don't mind mentioning that, in my opinion, when you are part of a community you do give up certain personal rights to be a part of it. Not conforming to our more's is not something that bodes well, long term. I do agree that either our members get with the program (community) or not participate in it....best regards
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Posted By: <b>john/z28jd</b><p> Leon,sometimes the inmates know how to run the asylum because they have been there so long. Your comment should be the other way around in most peoples eyes.I haven't said a thing to or about Marshall since his first week and I'm keeping it that way but I do moderate a fairly busy tight-knit baseball board as you know and I realized when posters get together against one person who is knowingly causing problems the quality of the board goes down until that problem is resolved. Telling people to start a thread about vintage cards is basically telling them what theyre rallying for is wrong despite what so many people think. The outcries are going to continue until the problem is solved because the Net54 family sticks together,I think we've proven that in the past with others who for one reason or another wore out their welcome
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Posted By: <b>Steve</b><p>Geez I missed all the fun last night.<br><br><br>Marshall is not a bad guy. You guys are all wrong.<br><br>Steve
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Posted By: <b>leon</b><p>I could be wrong but I think the problem is pretty well resolved. I choose to ask for positive contributions instead of negative ones. We all moderate differently I guess....take care
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Posted By: <b>barrysloate</b><p>Sorry all if I got carried away, but Marshall pushed the wrong button. When I read his posts from last night I had just about enough.
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Posted By: <b>marshall barkman</b><p>This will be my last post in regards to this precious Natzi boot camp. I understand full well what goes on here in this community. You have like 10 people who are very critical and jump down people's throats when they spell words wrong or post something wrong about a card or anything wrong where they can impower themselves. You see miserable people with no power get power by getting in a group like this.<br><br><br><br><br><br><br><br>Case in point. Last week i posted where i needed help in regards to a card, no big deal there was no mudslinging or name calling. I recieved two private e-mails in regards to the card and both board members said the same thing. Basically they did not want folks on here to know they were helping me and also if they were wrong then they would be immediatly bombarded with critical remarks and made fun of. I mean are you serious? Is this a baseball card message board or a Natzi boot camp? Man if i were afraid to voice my opinion anywhere i would move on pronto.<br><br><br><br><br><br><br><br><br><br><br ><br>Also i will state for the record Elaine was written in 1990 before polly was and the tracks on my website are all demo tracks that were written for demo purposes for RCA records in 1990.....jeez the songs were written 19 years ago and Finley acts like i wrote them last night. I do not come from money and the money i have is made by yours truly. Also Mr.Finley i think James Paul Wisner and Chris Lord Alge have accomplished more in their musical careers so i will leave it that Mr. audio engineer wizard.<br><br><br><br><br><br><br><br>I really do understand the 20 folks that Leon is referring to. I understand that in order to be a part of this group and function then one has to be very submissive by nature and if someone makes fun of them or is critical then do not respond back......especially to Wonka who hovers over the group in his flying saucer chocolate eclair.<br><br><br><br><br><br><br><br>I really do not socialize with people or have friends that do not act like Americans. My friends and i cut up all the time and give each other the needle because we do live in the land of the free. I also do not hijack threads looking to start trouble knowing because i am well respected in the community that a blind eye will be turned my way.<br><br><br><br><br><br><br><br>You guys can have your Natzi boot camp board and i do feel sorry for all the members that do not feel comfortable enough where they can even post their opinion or take part in threads because they fear the backlash that will happen from this group.<br><br><br><br><br><br><br><br>Last i will say i do like this Finley character. I wish he would have just been a real person and posted his true thoughts on the board.....ohhhhhhh....that's right he probably was afraid of what folks would think about him, my dear friend Finley be yourself and never worry about things like that because life is to short.
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Posted By: <b>Joe D.</b><p>forget the noise....<br><br>the brooklyn just came out of barry!<br>
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Posted By: <b>Marty Ogelvie</b><p><p>Barry,</p><p>Remind me to never pizz you off!</p><p><img alt="scarybaseball.jpg" src="http://www.network54.com/Realm/tmp/1236527817.JPG"> </p><br><br>marty
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Posted By: <b>CoreyRSh.anus</b><p>Marshall as you leave us here's one thought you might reflect on --<br><br>The people really worth respecting are those who walk the walk without talking the talk.<br><br>
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Posted By: <b>J Levine</b><p>Corey,<br>I have been trying to tell him that for weeks...he does not listen.<br><br>By the way, I thought it was against the rules to post emails on the board.<br><br>I also really really really find it disgusting to be compared to a Nazi.<br><br>Yuck,<br><br>Joshua
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Posted By: <b>leon</b><p>He didn't post the contact part of the email and I figured it was a last post so let it go. I am pretty well sick of babysitting.....Can't we just talk about cards again, please?
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Posted By: <b>barrysloate</b><p>Alright, I've calmed down and it does appear Marshall will be leaving us. If I may posit a final thought to Marshall, everyone here is free to express their opinion, and this is not a "Nazi" (check your spelling) boot camp as you suggest. We're just all tired of you insulting everyone and drawing so much attention to yourself. It's not the Marshall Barkman Show but the Net54 VBBC board. You seem to be happiest when it's all about you. When you express good opinions people will listen and respond. But they will not respond to all your rants about what you have accomplished. I've accomplished a lot of things too but I'm not coming on this forum to talk about them.<br><br>Frankly, I think you have some real unresolved issues but I'm not going to even go there right now. I would just like to see a little more respect for this board.
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Posted By: <b>Richard Simon</b><p>Does this mean the attention starved Marshall is through? Leon, you left that question kind of up in the air. Don't know if this is part of the rules, but why not put it to a vote??<br>=<br><br>I refuse to engage in a battle of wits with an unarmed opponent.<br>Unknown author <br>--<br>We made a promise. We swore we'd always remember.<br>No retreat baby, no surrender.<br>The Boss
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Posted By: <b>Steve F</b><p>Marshall or whomever you are,<br><br> Why you are still here baffles. You try to instill fear and intimidate and in general disrespectful to this Board's integrity. You're fooling yourself to believe the VBC's a bunch of turnkey teenies with hip-hop on our ipods. <br><br> And I'm certain, you're witty at all those celebrity mixers -where the ETOH flows. But here, where we are sober, your posts are obnoxious and your conceit is confounding. <br><br> You're untrue to to us and to yourself, any fool can see your full of ****. Don't try to convince the Board you're 'different'. Perhaps you're an anomaly, but the people I've known in my fifty years that are connected/successful are humbled by it, not boastful bragarts. We know more about you than you will ever know. You fool noone.<br><br> You indicate your worldliness and experience. So why it hard to believe your disgraceful putdowns and narcisistic rants are ALWAYS a turn-off and inciteful to the membership? <br><br> What's seen is a nippy, little chihauha in a pitbull suit running around the floor gnashinmg at our shoes. In your twisted logic, you imagine simply owning a stellar memorabilia collection clinches acceptance in this group. <br><br> So again... Why are you here?, and try honesty for a change. <br><br> Leon, Those knowledgeable collectors, from the Pre-Noize era, just aren't posting or participating like before. It's no longer Easy Street and the tension is palpable. I miss those days, Don't you? Our ankles are chewed to the bone. Please fix this. Steve Falletti
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Posted By: <b>leon</b><p>Thanks but no thanks....BTW, you rarely talk about vintage cards either so you might reflect on that a little bit before you go to voting. Marshall has at least talked about cards sometimes. Have you?
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Posted By: <b>leon</b><p>Leon,<br><br>I am truly sorry...I think I have added a lot to the forum...The friends I have made here are important to me and I tend to feel offended when they are attacked. The teacher in me wants to educate and help. I, like John, will not longer post to Marshall. I am done with him. Just for the record, I am not a big fan of banning someone, but I am a big fan of respect. That respect has to be earned. Leon (and Dan), you have my utmost respect for the knowledge you have about cards, the way you handle yourselves, your skills as moderator (a job I would never want), and the general respect you give others. Thank you so much and like I said...time to get back to cards....<br><br>Just noticed the 2009 SCD lists the variations that I discovered a couple of years ago...here they are side by side for comparison.<br>Anybody seen any of these lately?<br><br><br>Joshua<br><br><img src="http://www.network54.com/Realm/tmp/1236534208.JPG" alt="[linked image]"> <img src="http://www.network54.com/Realm/tmp/1236534228.JPG" alt="[linked image]"> <br><br><br>edited scan size
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Posted By: <b>marshall barkman</b><p>What i find disgusting is that a guy from Brooklyn acts like he is from Martha's Vineyard. People in Brooklyn do not constantly whine about rules,scans,prices,auctions,cussing and so on because whining is not allowed, just ask Andrew Dice Clay now he is true Brooklyn and he also did not allow people to tell him how to speak or act.<br><br><br><br>Mr.Corey read your own post because that is exactly what you are talk. I have accomplished everything i wanted to do in my life except for one thing and that is win a PGA tour event before my father's death but i can live with that because i have not given up.<br><br><br><br>I did walk on with 0 help from school or teachers or even having played on a high school golf team and recieved a full golf scholarship to Florida International which was not easy and might i add i never once failed to qualify for a tournament. I also have met,played with and recorded with some of the most musically talented individuals the world has to offer, i never once took a guitar lesson or drum lesson.<br><br><br><br>Somehwere in the near future i will just show up with no announcement for a Nationwide or PGA Tour event and trust me my peers and friends on tour know i have major league talent and i get along with all the chaps. In fact i will not mention names but most guys want to talk about music and rock-n-roll when we are in the workout van or putting green because for whatever reason guys just love rock-n-roll stories.<br><br>Edit....what i notice is when i defend myself or answer questions then it gets turned around like i am bragging or seeking attention. A guy says you do not own cards, you are a liar, you don't even have a collection. I write back well my cards sold for 37,000 at auction and people say .....oh....he is bragging....what a attention seeker......no one states outside of Leon the truth which is all i am doing is responding. <br><br>The real truth is that if you go back to my original PSA grading thread you will see that i was merely posting a thought on a baseball card message board, when the mudslinging started a fired back......and whoaaaaaaaaaaaa........folks were in a state of shock. How dare he come in here and insult me after i insulteed him. Doesn't he understand that i can be critical but he has to keep his mouth shut.<br><br>Also for all the folks on here that are so highly intelligent and great researchers the tour i played on in 2006 has not had a tournament since then, it has been sold and there are lawsuits abounding everywhere in regards to financial matters, the parent compnay Greensworldwide is who owned the Us Pro golf tour. Even though i am a card carrying member not once have i threatened the tour with a lawsuit or posted anything negative about them nor will i ever.<br><br><br><br><br><br><br><br><br>
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Posted By: <b>Richard Simon</b><p>Leon - I don't really collect many vintage cards, other than NY Giants, but I have contributed information and pictures to the memorabilia board. I apologize if my suggestion of voting was not proper.<br><br>==<br><br>I refuse to engage in a battle of wits with an unarmed opponent.<br><br>Unknown author <br><br>--<br><br>We made a promise. We swore we'd always remember.<br><br>No retreat baby, no surrender.<br><br>The Boss
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Posted By: <b>barrysloate</b><p>Marshall - there are four million people in Brooklyn, so you can't generalize about them. And that's pretty classy insulting Corey Shanus...if you knew how successful he has been in his life, and if you knew the kind of collection he has (and tells nobody about it) you would take back what you said.
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Posted By: <b>leon</b><p>You have contributed a lot and I appreciate your posts. That being said I hate being put in the position of having a vote to ban someone. I don't think that is right. I can't stand banning people and even a few that have been banned could come back if they wanted too (and have come back on the BST pages). Only 1 person will never be welcomed back and actually he should really hope we never meet. I am quite sure that in a day or less we will be back to talking about what this forum is best for. I won't even let this thread go on a lot longer. No real good can come of it. Once again, I don't like this position I am in, but don't really have a choice so I will just do the best I can. I have strong beliefs about allowing non-anonymous folks to say mostly what they want to and that belief system gets in the way of my taking quicker action. Good or bad that is the way I am. I count hundreds of board members as friends and hope that # will increase. I love collecting and the hobby. take care
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Posted By: <b>marshall barkman</b><p>My life does not revolve around cards alone Barry and just because someone has cards does not mean they have class, it was pretty classy what he said also. People with class would not even post. Now Jim Crandall has class so it does not suprise me there is no post from him in regards to this matter.
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Posted By: <b>Don</b><p>Animadvertistine, ubicumque stes, fumum recta in faciem ferri?
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Posted By: <b>Steve</b><p>"who hovers over the group in his flying saucer chocolate eclair."<br><br><br><br><br>LMAO<br><br><br>S teve
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Posted By: <b>John V</b><p>Leon, <br>Thanks for the great job you do as moderator. You're very fair and quite patient. I find these far-off-topic posts a detriment to the purpose of the board. I recommend that you crack open an extra box of Net 54 locks. As moderator, I urge you to use them quickly and without discussion or courtesy warnings.<br>John
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Posted By: <b>Fred C</b><p><br><br>Quinon proficit deficit
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Posted By: <b>Fred C</b><p>Why doesn't someone simply say:<br><br>Futue te et ipsum caballum<br><br>
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Posted By: <b>Anonymous</b><p>Is it OK to curse in Latin LOL.
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Posted By: <b>Al C.risafulli</b><p>Addo sonitus.<br><br>-Al
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Posted By: <b>Don</b><p>"Addo sonitus."<br><br>LOL <br>
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Posted By: <b>boxingcardman</b><p>The tribe has spoken and he IS the biggest loser...<br><br>Sic Gorgiamus Allos Subjectatos Nunc
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Posted By: <b>Anonymous</b><p>a nippy, little chihauha in a pitbull suit running around the floor gnashinmg at our shoes.<br><br><br>...and peeing on the carpet!
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Posted By: <b>Bob</b><p>I've steered clear of this whole diatribe but when someone attacks Wonka and Barry, two of the most considerate guys on this board, I have to bristle. My own personal feeling, for what it's worth, is that this world could use a whole lot more Wonkas and Barrys in it. <br>
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Posted By: <b>barrysloate</b><p>Not too many Barrys, I hope. <img src="/images/happy.gif" height="14" width="14" alt="happy.gif">
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Posted By: <b>leon</b><p>Since this stupid thread is already at the top I will let some folks know what I have to think about when I (and/or the other moderators) make a decision to ban someone. <br><br>Is that person a known person? If no, then banning is easy.<br><br>Will that person stop when asked? If no, then banning is fairly easy.<br><br>Does that person START the negativity?<br><br>Does that person ever contribute positively to the forum?<br><br>Does that person conform to community standards? (I am somewhat of a non-conformist so this is meant in a way to not restrict, as much as possible)<br>Does that person incite arguments not conducive to the welfare of the community?<br><br>There are many other things to consider too, imo, but those are the main ones. Any of them can have greater weight than another in a specific situation. <br><br>This thread will probably be locked soon, but when I do that there is ALWAYS someone(s) that say they really NEEDED to get THEIR last words in. Then they ask if they can start another thread, and if I say yes or no, it sucks. <br><br>All in all if we are talking about vintage baseball cards and the history of them and the players, we will be in good shape. (utopia-esque)...best regards<br><br><br><br> <br>
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Posted By: <b>Frank Wakefield</b><p>I agree with John V above, and TBob immediately above.<br><br>Bring on the silence...
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Posted By: <b>JimB</b><p>Yawn.... and good riddance.<br>JimB
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Posted By: <b>Mark Evans</b><p>There was a brief period when it seemed that Marshall had toned down the noise a bit. At that point, I thought he could well be a valuable contributor to the Board, even with his over-the-top, manic delivery...a colorful character. But then the original Marshall re-appeared with a vengeance. True he was at times provoked, but overall just too much bragging, insulting, sexism and generally obnoxious behavior.<br><br><br><br>By the way, I will say I admire his golfing skills. Having taken up the game a few years ago upon retirement, I find it deceptively difficult (after all, the ball IS sitting still when you hit it), even for those of us who believe we have halfway decent hand-eye coordination. <br><br><br><br>As for the techo-rock, or whatever it's called, I can't speak to that except to say it doesn't appear on any Thelonious Monk cd's.<br><br><br><br>Mark
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Posted By: <b>Steve</b><p>Mark the trick is a simple one, keep<br>your head down. <br><br><br> <br><br>Steve
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Posted By: <b>Ken McMillan</b><p>Apparently after further research, he is not currently on the PGA tour. Last event is listed in 2006. Also didn't see him at the accenture played in my neighborhood. Can you say blowhard????
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Posted By: <b>Anonymous</b><p>Perhaps his game suffered from dallying too much with naked maids and models.
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Posted By: <b>Rhett Yeakley</b><p>I pretty much agree with what Mark just stated in regards to Marshall. When he first came on here he really rubbed me (and many others) the wrong way, but he seemed to tone it down a bit and for a while he seemed to at least be trying to be a part of the collective (in his own way). However, he does seem to have temper issues, and when he gets upset all hell seems to break loose... which is what we had here of late. <br><br>I agree that I don't think he needs to be totally banned, maybe just a little hiatus. When/If he can play nice he should be allowed to return, while he doesn't seem to actually collect the cards anymore, he does have interest in them, and that is what this board is all about. Anyways, that is just one mans opinion. <br><br>He would kick my butt in Golf though!<br><br>-Rhett
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Posted By: <b>Frank L.</b><p>Marshall<br><br>What year did you go to FIU? I did my undergrad there from 1981 to 1986? Boy has the place changed. Used to be a small sleepy little campus. They just got a Medical School of all things. <br><br>Frank L.
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Posted By: <b>Sean C</b><p>in MB's life that made him into the fool he is, but I will say that rarely have I ever seen someone have so many excuses for the shortcomings in their life. From the excuses regarding golf to the excuses regarding his band and album, it's comical to watch. Sadly, it won't be so funny when he hits rock bottom, and realizes he has thrown away the marginal talent he may have had in golf, that he was never talented musically (I've listened to the songs from your myspace page, Marshall, and I was less than impressed), and is little more than a spent, empty shell of a man whose pomposity was all he ever really had. <br><br>For your sake, Marshall, I hope you can get help and turn your life around.
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Posted By: <b>Bottom of the Ninth</b><p>Not sure who Marshall is (doubt Marshall knows who Marshall is) but the guy posting is a colorful character with an active imagination. Mommy and daddy must not have paid enough attention to him since he now has to bring so much noise. His narcissism and self promotion were unpalatable at best however I admire his stance on being heard and speaking his mind too bad he could not be less vociferous when doing so. Sadly Marshall is not ok with just being a regular guy <br><br>Greg
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Posted By: <b>sagard</b><p>How many times does it take for one to make their last, last post. <img src="/images/happy.gif" height="14" width="14" alt="happy.gif"><br><br>I was hoping that the locked threads would reveal something interesting, but oh well.<br><br>
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Posted By: <b>Scott Mt. Joy</b><p>Seems counter to most board members but I really didnt have any issues with marshall or his post, for the most part I ignored them if I didnt care for the subject/what he was saying. I don't think he had bad intentions towards the board or boardmembers. <br><br>I wish more people here would just ignore the Marshalls of the world as they seek attention because you would have gotten what you wanted in any case in time and avoided all this bs. IMO there are a couple people here who just would not stop trying to provoke him everytime he posted, to me he didnt fit their idea of who should be a poster on these boards. To be honest I see the same thing happen a lot when Jim C post and I don't like it either, I'm just glad he for the most part chooses to ignore them.<br><br>Sorry for the rant but wanted to get that off my chest.
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Posted By: <b>Richard Simon</b><p>To tbose suggesting Marshall seeks help, you first have to admit that you have a problem before you actually seek help. Do you really think Marshall can admit he has a problem?<br>==<br><br>I refuse to engage in a battle of wits with an unarmed opponent.<br>Unknown author <br>--<br>We made a promise. We swore we'd always remember.<br>No retreat baby, no surrender.<br>The Boss
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Posted By: <b>Dan Koteles</b><p>We are all made up of different charachters and I sometimes have a hard time playing my part , but somebody has to be me. Having 2 parents Hungarian and both opposites made me a little more well rounded. Sometimes I did things knowing it was in bad judgement and could have restrained myself but didnt because I wanted to be heard. Not everyone has the same balance in life. There are more importants things to pick apart then someone wanting some attention .Bruce "D" used to get some flack cause he made it a point to say he wanted the best or he is from the "Ivy league", I wish that I had that background and could afford those type of cards always .If the status is earned so be it ,accomplishments are wonderful.If it doesnt change your life , let someone have their say. My point is everyone has their way of reaching out like it or not. You may as well tell them all on how to drive a car and how to put their clothes on cause there are many who suck at these things as well.<br><br>More importantly , my wifes health seems better but there are still some issues unsolved and further testing is ahead .<br><br>To continue on a good note Iam making a roast (top loin) that you only wish you could have .It is mixed with 3 peppers ( 1 Hungarian)extra onion ,caramelized French onion soup ,Hungarian Paprika , Greek seasoning ,sea salt ,pepper ,poppy seed (for all you 60's freeks)carrots , celery, etc.........<br><br>some one in a post mentioned that bragging about a "big Johnson" meant something or another, well......us Hungarians invented the Johnson .Not only is mine extra big , it is pretty too !<br><br>so dont be JEALOUS OF KOTELES cause here it is !!!<br><br><br><br> <img src="http://www.network54.com/Realm/tmp/1236547141.JPG" alt="[linked image]">
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Posted By: <b>Anonymous</b><p>As Jew, and one that has had family members killed by the Nazi's it sickens me to hear this Mamzer post on this board. Marshall<br> Nim'as li! ,lech lehizdayen, A chazer bleibt a chazer!
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Posted By: <b>mark s.</b><p>ok... now I am genuinely perplexed & chagrined!<br>i'm from california, and our ballots here are printed in seemingly EVERY foreign & exotic language EXCEPT those used in this thread...<br>HOW am i expected to keep up?<br>(translations, please)
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Posted By: <b>barrysloate</b><p>I know a chazer is a pig, so I get the gist of the Yiddish post. But not the full nuance of it.
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Posted By: <b>E, Daniel</b><p>This forum used to be addictive to me, even at times when less than useful posters hung out and bragged or abused or just sounded plain dumb.<br><br>But the last few weeks since Marshall's arrival I've found it awfully easy to stay away. Maybe check in once a day. Get turned off by a Barkman blog joined in by a few youngish sounding and less than vintage card focussed posse members, and then I'd leave without wanting to say or post anything.<br><br>I too have noticed that quite a number of the Net54 family who kept the bb card threads humming with humor and info. have disappeared, most likely just put off by MB's presence and awaiting his departure.<br><br>Leon, you may have felt a personal connection to Marshall and his brash style, but why would you want to lose what is essentially good about the forum and have its tenor changed so dramatically? Wouldn't you rather have a well informed group who largely enjoys eachothers company and knowledge than a mosh pit of voices who treat this as an open mike blog?<br><br>You might want him as your drinking buddy - me I prefer the company of people I would feel safe leaving my wife and children around......<br><br>This MB guy - absolutely definitely not.<br><br>
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Posted By: <b>Matt</b><p>Josh/illini805 - while I enjoy a Yiddish/Hebrew post quite a bit, that Hebrew was over the top - if it's not something you would say in English, don't say it an another language.<br>kol tuv,<br>-Matt<br><br><p><br><br><br><a href="http://picasaweb.google.com/mwieder" rel="nofollow">My Trade/Sale Page</a></p>
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Posted By: <b>Bob C</b><p>DELETE<br><br><br>
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Posted By: <b>Dan Koteles</b><p>I didnt read into anything that Leon wanted to have a beer with this cat. He did say when enough is enough, that he would take care of it, in other words. Amongst men,I find it unbeliveable that one can get under your skin so bad to where you have to find your day so upsetting that you have to vent here when homeless people or veterans are scraping for a meal.There are more important things....if you do not like this guy , ignore him or have fun about it and take some shots . You make it seem he is taking shots so bad that you dont wanna live anymore or you just cant take it....hey ,did you like my Johnson ???
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Posted By: <b>barrysloate</b><p>That Johnson looked a lot better than a 40.
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Posted By: <b>mark s.</b><p>it's about time this evolved into a "who's got the BEST johnson" thread...<br>i just wish i had one... if i did, i'd show it!
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Posted By: <b>Matt</b><p>This is the T206 the WoJo himself kept in his personal scrapbook. I'll put Johnson's Johnson up against your Johnson <img src="/images/happy.gif" height="14" width="14" alt="happy.gif"><br><br><img src="http://lh5.ggpht.com/_pAhpQ3jIX9M/SWDqwzP9xcI/AAAAAAAAAes/0zuu7SQL5rk/s640/scan0013.jpg" alt="[linked image]"><br><br><p><br><br><br><a href="http://picasaweb.google.com/mwieder" rel="nofollow">My Trade/Sale Page</a></p>
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Posted By: <b>Dan Koteles</b><p>The second "E" of the "Sweet Caporal" has a bit of loss at the very bottom of it or a 7.5 and a 5k plus card. Replacement of the overall look would have me not accepting a 5k offer , but 5100.00 and you never know ! Dont worry about wrong thread it isnt for sale, well unless you have 5100.00 !<br><br><img src="http://www.network54.com/Realm/tmp/1236553039.JPG" alt="[linked image]">
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Posted By: <b>Doug</b><p>It's sure nice to see cards around here. Let's see some more!
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Posted By: <b>Ryan Christoff</b><p>I don't care if Marshall stays or goes. I don't envy Leon's job regarding whether or not to ban him, since I am generally not in favor of banning people. But some people do not have the ability to control their own behavior and Marshall is clearly one of those people. I believe he might genuinely not want to respond sometimes, but literally cannot help himself. However Leon handles it is perfectly fine with me. <br><br>I don't know if it's 100% Marshall Barkman related or not, but the level of douchebaggery on this board has risen to alarmingly high levels recently. For me, it has made it almost impossible to spend much time reading any thread on the board. I used to read almost every thread even when it didn't have anything to do with what I collect (most threads do not) but now I can barely get myself to glance at the thread titles and authors, let alone open them up. <br><br>Will that change if Marshall is no longer here? I really don't know. What I do know is that I've seen quite a few people I like and respect get attacked recently, on a purely personal level. I'm not talking about the political douchebagification of Net54 that's been going on for so long. Political rants are not what I am talking about. Some of the things I've read on this board recently have been way out of line. And they've been repeated over and over again.<br><br>People can be very different in person than they are behind a keyboard. This is one of the reasons that the Net54 gatherings at the National are so great. People can still talk crap to you, but they have to do it with you standing right in front of them, not across the country. People are much nicer to each other and seem to get along much better. <br><br>My experience has been that the guys who come on this board and talk the toughest are the ones that for some reason never seem to make it to the National. Marshall, I hope you go to the National in Cleveland. I also hope you attend the Net54 dinner. I am all for free speech, but I am also all for accountability. Sometimes there should be consequences if you are just going to say whatever thought comes to mind with no regard for how inappropriate or hurtful it may be. What kind of rebel would you be if you never had any consequences for your amazing acts of rebellion? On this, I am here to offer my help: if I hear you speak to Joann in person the way you have spoken to her on this board, I will personally see to it that there are consequences. Sound fair? Not that Joann needs someone to stick up for her. She takes care of herself just fine. But not everyone wants insecure 9th grade misogynist noise brought to them. And I am one of those people. Do you understand me?<br><br>I have two daughters. I have never had any desire or need to own a gun. But knowing there are douchebags like you in the world is the best advertising a shotgun manufacturer or seller could ever hope for. <br><br>-Ryan<br><br><br><br>P.S. Would someone e-mail me privately if there is a thread about Cuban cards or the Negro Leagues, or a thread I should contribute to? I do try to post when there are questions regarding items I have knowledge about. I'd like to continue to do this, but will probably not check the board as religiously any more.
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Posted By: <b>Dan Koteles</b><p>you are not Hungarian, so the size of your Johnson doesnt compare though you have a little clout. Nice piece!
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Posted By: <b>Jeff Lichtman</b><p>Dan, I'm part Hungarian and I say your Johnson is a bit weak.
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Posted By: <b>mark s.</b><p>dan- your SWEFT CAPORAL is an sbsolute thing of beauty...<br>matt- how can anyone compete with YOUR "second generation" johnson?<br>so far, best in show!<br>keep 'em coming...
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Posted By: <b>Dan Koteles</b><p>you are sired from the wrong side of the Hunky to state that .My color clarity through bloodline was not broken, my 199.00 scanner was a scammer.
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Posted By: <b>Anonymous</b><p>Marshall,<br><br>You said:<br><br>"Also i will state for the record Elaine was written in 1990 before polly was"<br><br>I have no dog in this fight, but I am a Nirvana fan and "Polly" was definitely written before 1990. Probably 1988 or 1989.
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Posted By: <b>Ryan Christoff</b><p>I rarely post items from my collection, but when will I get another opportunity to post this? He kind of reminds me of someone... <br><br><img src="http://i111.photobucket.com/albums/n148/vajra1/Cobaincropped.jpg" alt="[linked image]"><br><br>-Ryan<br><br>
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Posted By: <b>Dan Koteles</b><p>guess the top cat is Reford and the bottom cat is Waylond Jennings before he got caught up with Jones, Nelson and Cash.
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Posted By: <b>Jeff S.</b><p>So you picked that up Ryan - great item! I was lucky enough to snag the first numbered Nirvana 7" back in the early 1990's - still have it.
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Posted By: <b>Jeff Lichtman</b><p>Ryan, that's Kurt Cobain????
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Posted By: <b>Steven Finley</b><p>If my way of reacting to an annoyance embarrassed the board I apologize. It's not my board, it's yours.
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Posted By: <b>marshall barkman</b><p>What i find so funny about all of this is when i state that i am not posting anymore then here come about 30 more posts of people still talking to or about me. With such a loving and christian conservative group of people you would think that enough is enough but.......whoaaaaaaaa.....here we go again with the burn the witch at the stake deal. The hypocrisy is sickening.<br><br>We have Ryan who is now talking about buying guns and threatening people with physical violence dragging his daughters into this. We have E Daniel talking about his wife and children. Talk about paranoid. I have 0 interest in married women and i will not even stoop to the level and drag children into this thread.<br><br>I can address certain issues because i understand accountability and also people. I watched the debates between Obama and MCcain and here is what i found interesting. MCcain said he would not sit down with the leader of N Korea in regards to the nuclear situation and the mediator asked why. MCcain stated what would i do tell the man you cannot do this and then he says i will do this so now there is a confrontation and standoff. Why would i want to attend the Network54 dinner? So a group of you can walk up wanting a confrontation? Why on earth would anyone want to participate in a social setting that would make everyone feel uncomfortable. I do not think the local minister is going to a Deftone concert anytime soon.<br><br>I will be at the National but it will not be looking for fights or trying to pick up guys wives or standing outside waiting for the holy one to arrive in the chocolate eclair spaceship with jawbreakers as headlights. I will be there to buy and grade cards which is what 90% of what everyone else is doing.<br><br>You guys give yourself way to much credit to think anyone is going to a card show so they can get themselves into trouble. <br><br>In regards to nirvana 1988-89 their sound was in Seattle stuck on sub-pop and no one on the East coast was paying any attention. I can assure you that if anyone influenced my song writing or musical influence it would be Mike Ness of Social Distortion,Sonic youth and also Jesus Mary chain.<br><br>I was at FIU the same time you were in regards to who asked the question.
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