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Posted By: <b>marshall barkman</b><p><img src="http://www.network54.com/Realm/tmp/1232856301.JPG" alt="[linked image]"> <img src="http://www.network54.com/Realm/tmp/1232856278.JPG" alt="[linked image]">
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Posted By: <b>Rhett Yeakley</b><p>Of the names that I can read, the only one on the picture that played in the major leagues was Gus Dorner (the Manager). Still, a pretty neat piece. What is the size? Cahmbersburg fielded a team from 1915-1930, although there was no team in 1918 & 1919 (likely because of WWI). They were part of the Blue Ridge League, fairly low in the strata of Minor League teams of the day (Class D).<br>-Rhett
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Posted By: <b>marshall barkman</b><p>In the book i have that it states the Maroons were only considered a professional team in 1915. I believe the Pirates were backing the team.
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Posted By: <b>Dan Bretta</b><p>Your book is wrong Marshall. Chamberburg had a team called the Maroons from 1915-17 and 1920-28 and they had no organizational backing. The photo is pretty sweet...thanks for posting it.
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Posted By: <b>marshall barkman</b><p>The book i have lists every player to ever play in a Major League game and then also lists teams. It has Chambersburg only listed 1915.
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Posted By: <b>Dan Bretta</b><p>What book are you looking at? The Society of American Baseball Research differs with your book greatly.
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Posted By: <b>marshall barkman</b><p>Dan...i am not at the house. The book is really thick and i use it to identify obscure ballplayers who played from 1888 to 1930. Also i might add that the Chambersburg high school started with the name Maroons in 1916 so i'll have to ask my baseball guru buddy of his knowledge about this. I bought another photo today which is supposed to be in front of the Johnstown school, i think it is probably teens to twenties. The photo is of kids but it is still cool.
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Posted By: <b>Frank Wakefield</b><p>Great photo, Marshall, thanks for posting it!!!<br><br>And let us know the name of the book, please sir. <br><br><br>In my Johnson & Wolff book, The Encyclopedia of Minor League Baseball, they list Chambersburg as having a team in the Blue Ridge League 1915-1917, 1920-1930.<br><br><br>In the SABR minor league database they show a Keiffer, a Snyder, and a Stewart on the 1915 team. I think 1915 is correct. Great find.
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Posted By: <b>Dan Bretta</b><p>I think definitely 1915...and SABR could probably use the names of the guys on that photo because they don't have all of them.
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Posted By: <b>marshall barkman</b><p>The photo has 1915 on it bottom right under the Chambersburg Maroons. I bought it because some of the players look way serious. I like photos with famous Major Leaguers but sometimes they can be bland from a photography aspect. This photo in person has a very dark aura and i believe some of these guys probably played turn of the century ball where the spikes were flying.
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Posted By: <b>J Levine</b><p>Finally...vintage baseball...this is a great piece Marshall. Very clear photo and the players do have a rather serious look. Is that a vintage frame as well or has it been remounted?<br><br>Joshua
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Posted By: <b>marshall barkman</b><p>Everything is period. The photo or backing nas never been removed.
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Posted By: <b>barrysloate</b><p>Very nice photo Marshall, and definitely period. Thanks for posting.
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Posted By: <b>jay wolt</b><p>Nice pickup!<br>Always good to see a local team unearthed<br>Chambersburg is about 30 miles away from me
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Posted By: <b>marshall barkman</b><p>I wonder what the value of the photo is? I would like to know what some of you guys would have paid for an item like this at a public auction. I'm a sucker for photos so i probably paid to much.
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Posted By: <b>marshall barkman</b><p>Dan...the book is 1990 Encyclopedia of Baseball. Perhaps the newer editions have more info.
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Posted By: <b>Dan Bretta</b><p>What's the size of the photo? That could help determine what it's worth...there's no one on the photo that is especially famous. Obviously it would be worth more to someone local. If it were to fit my collection (ie it were from Nebraska) I would pay up to $200 for that.
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Posted By: <b>Frank Wakefield</b><p>Goodness gracious... baseball in Nebraska. What is this world coming to??<br><br>
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Posted By: <b>marshall barkman</b><p>The size is 9X20 which i think is large.
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Posted By: <b>Max Weder</b><p>Marshall <br><br>That's a good size photo, and could easily go for $200 to the right collector. Dan is right about finding the collector with the local interest to up the value. As with Dan, my major interest of collecting, whether cards, photos or other memorabilia, is focused on Vancouver (where I live now) and Saskatoon (where I grew up, and believe it or not, where they played professional baseball 1910-1920)<br><br>Max
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Posted By: <b>marshall barkman</b><p>Dan...i would spend 200 dollars on a steak and bottle of wine(lol). The photo cost me more and your bid card would have never went up at the auction but thanks for the response. The piece opened for higher than that because of several left bids, i think the size is what makes it valueable. For me it is just the glare on some of the faces and the fact the piece is haunting in nature, it looks cool on the wall.
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Posted By: <b>Dan Bretta</b><p>Marshall, if you bought it anywhere near Chambersburg then I don't doubt it could sell for more than $200. I've purchased similar photos for less and sometimes I've paid more. Photos can be tricky to try and value. I once paid $250 for a framed 1929 Philadelphia A's panorama at a local auction....and I've also paid $900 for a 42" panorama of the 1911 Lincoln minor league team. I paid $80 for a 25" panorama of the 1912 Madison Giants (Nebraska Independent League) on ebay.<br><br>The most important thing is that you like it. If you're happy with what you paid for it then you did good. Some of these photos do have a haunting quality which I also like in a photo.
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Posted By: <b>marshall barkman</b><p>Dan....you stole the one photo for 80.00 so congrats on that score. I think you like indian photos to and i own some of the rarest on the planet. I know some of these board members think i'm crazy and talk smack but over time they will learn that i'm the real deal and do not lie about items i own. Check out these photos bro and they are Dakota Territory which makes them prior to 1889. Once again it's all about BRINGING THE NOISE.<img src="http://www.network54.com/Realm/tmp/1232913976.JPG" alt="[linked image]">
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Posted By: <b>marshall barkman</b><p><img src="http://www.network54.com/Realm/tmp/1232917155.JPG" alt="[linked image]">
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Posted By: <b>Dan Bretta</b><p>Nice cabinets Marshall. Do you have any 19th century baseball cabinet photos?
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Posted By: <b>marshall barkman</b><p>Yes but they are in a vault several states away. I'll probably never part with those, however on the Indian photos i'm going to sell them. I have 11 total and i'm currently listening to offers.
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Posted By: <b>John</b><p>"I think you like indian photos to and i own some of the rarest on the planet."<br><br>Really Marshall as an avid CDV and photo collector I wasn't aware that these D.F. Barry shots of indians were all that rare? <br><br>Some are scarce but rare is a big jump.<br><br>I would love to see some truly rare stuff post away.<br><br>I would also say around 200-300 bucks on the above baseball photo.
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Posted By: <b>Dan Bretta</b><p>Yeah, the indian photos by Barry are not that rare, but they do bring big money...The two that Marshall pictured are not in very good shape though.
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Posted By: <b>John</b><p>Dan I agree. But I wouldn't say big money a year back or so it wasn't odd to see more obscure images and poses pull 1k to 1.5k each for really good shape ones. But as of late even really top quality ones are having a hard time getting even 600-900 opening bids.<br><br><br><br>
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Posted By: <b>marshall barkman</b><p>John... you are off my man. The Barry cabinets you are looking at are ones when he relocated to Wisconsin. The one i have pictured is Dakota Territory and also marked Bismark. It is very rare. Show me another one.
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Posted By: <b>John</b><p>Here's a few for starters...<br><br><a href="http://cgi.ebay.com/LOW-DOG-by-D-F-Barry-Lakota-Indian-Custer-Bighorn_W0QQitemZ330300650149QQcmdZViewItemQQptZAr t_Photo_Images?hash=item330300650149&_trksid=p 3286.c0.m14&_trkparms=66%3A2%7C65%3A3%7C39%3A1 %7C240%3A1318" target="_new" rel="nofollow">http://cgi.ebay.com/LOW-DOG-by-D-F-Barry-Lakota-Indian-Custer-Bighorn_W0QQitemZ330300650149QQcmdZViewItemQQptZAr t_Photo_Images?hash=item330300650149&_trksid=p 3286.c0.m14&_trkparms=66%3A2%7C65%3A3%7C39%3A1 %7C240%3A1318</a><br><br><a href="http://www.worthpoint.com/worthopedia/df-barry-cabinet-card-chief-joseph-0" target="_new" rel="nofollow">http://www.worthpoint.com/worthopedia/df-barry-cabinet-card-chief-joseph-0</a><br><br><a href="http://www.worthpoint.com/worthopedia/df-barry-cabinet-card-curley-1" target="_new" rel="nofollow">http://www.worthpoint.com/worthopedia/df-barry-cabinet-card-curley-1</a><br><br><a href="http://www.liveauctioneers.com/item/2635620" target="_new" rel="nofollow">http://www.liveauctioneers.com/item/2635620</a><br><br>Marshall really dont think I'm that off, rare is a pretty big word tossed around way to much in this world. The 2 above are nice items a little rough but nice. But my point is they are around and not impossible to find the above took me less than 30 seconds to find. When dozens upon dozens of items come up over years that's not rare Marshall that's scarce at best.<br><br>You may bring the noise but I'm just brining you a little reality that's all...no need to over inflate items you have the above CDV's are nice enough.<br><br>John
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Posted By: <b>John</b><p>Marshall not only rare but I quote.."i own some of the rarest on the planet"...and to that I say really? <br><br>Love to see them.
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Posted By: <b>marshall barkman</b><p>I'm not trying to overinflate the photos. The indians you are looking at are more common. Just like in baseball cards some are more scarce than others. I think the cabinets are worth somewhere between 500 and 1500 and 3000 for the rarer ones.
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Posted By: <b>marshall barkman</b><p>I don't think you can find another Running Antelope and also Big Deer. If you do my hat is off. These cabinets are very rare and i have not seen another Sitting Bull with a peace pipe.
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Posted By: <b>John</b><p>Marshall there are plenty of Sitting Bull images featuring the peace pipe above. As I'm sure on Running Antelope as well....<br><br>Many of these images were used over and over and cropped many ways so all of them have a bit of a different feel. <br><br><br>However there are plenty of them yours are not the only ones see below right from the LOC, just type in Sitting Bull look familiar?<br><br><br><a href="http://lcweb2.loc.gov/pp/mdbquery.html" target="_new" rel="nofollow">http://lcweb2.loc.gov/pp/mdbquery.html</a><br><br><br>This doesnt even count the countless images of Native Americans held in private collections.<br><br>
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Posted By: <b>John</b><p><img src="http://photos.imageevent.com/piojohn3/junkforumimages/websize/3c11147v.jpg" alt="[linked image]"><br><img src="http://photos.imageevent.com/piojohn3/junkforumimages/websize/Running_Antelope_Cabinet_Card.jpg" alt="[linked image]"><br><br>Wis. but still an image...
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Posted By: <b>Ryan Christoff</b><p>I think Marshall should post a pic of a Chief Joseph cabinet and then say "I will post no more, forever."<br><br>-Ryan<br><br>
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Posted By: <b>David McDonald</b><p>Careful, Ryan. Navy SEALS have been dispatched to Boulder. Hilarity to ensue.
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Posted By: <b>marshall barkman</b><p>John...the Running Antelope is Superior Wisconsin and i think the one i have is is likely to be one of the first ones made. I was not able to find the Sitting Bull so you get much deserved props. Maybe my cabinets are not the rarest ones on the planet but they are still hard to find. I'm glad you shared the information because all i could find months ago when i researched them was Cowan's auction results.
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Posted By: <b>Rhys</b><p>Not to beat a dead horse, but Dan is right about the value of your Chambersburg piece and just because you paid more for it than the FMV, does not make it worth that on the open market. I have owned several Chambersburg photos as well as literally thousands of minor league photos from this area (player and teams) which are earlier and nicer than yours as well as hundreds of other minor league cabinets and team photos and if your photo brought more than $200 in an auction I would be shocked. If it is worth more than that to you, that is great and there is nothing wrong with buying what you like, but this is an area where I can asure you that I have more experience than you and it is about a $200 photo or less.
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Posted By: <b>marshall barkman</b><p>Rhys....or whatever your username is. You remind me of like the guy who always states "i don't mean to be rude" and then he goes ahead and is rude. If you don't mean to beat a dead horse then why beat it? I'm not really concerned about your opinion on the photo because anyone that can spell horse understands most minor league team photos fetch between 50 and 200 dollars if they have size to them. What makes a photo great is the aura not just the players. You remind me of like this suedo art guy i know who runs to Askart or Davenport to figure out art values and then stands around dumbfounded when a painting sells for 50,000 when the previous highest listing was 15,000. <br><br><br><br><br><br><br><br>I was not disagreeing with Dan on the value. All i said was that he would not have got his bid card up on this particular piece. I'm sure he has paid more than fair market value for items that he wanted as we all do. All antiques are subjective and here is a prime example. A friend of mine bought a Abraham Lincoln signed log-book that came from a ball he attended in DC, also their was over 100 other autographs in the book that consisted of Sam Houston,Dolly Madison and so on. He bought the book at Bonham & Butterfields which is a major auction house in San Fran Ca for 5,500. He held the book for 6 months and then ran it here in Pa at a small auction house called Pa onsite and it brought 33,000 plus 15% buyer premium.<br><br><br><br><br><br><br><br>I have never claimed to be a expert on baseball items but i do have enough knowledge to be dangerous if the right items are up for sale.
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Posted By: <b>marshall barkman</b><p>I have owned several Chambersburg photos as well as literally thousands of minor league photos from this area (player and teams) which are earlier and nicer than yours as well as hundreds of other minor league cabinets and.....<br><br><br><br>Bro i know all the major collectors in this area and photos are tough to come by. The only thing that is plentiful is Nellie fox items. Hershey, Harrisburg and bigger cities i have seen but that is it.<br><br><br><br>Your remark on owning 1000's of photos is retarded. In my 3 years of attending auctions in this region i have seen 2 baseball photos from estates, none in antique shops and only a handful in private collections. <br><br><br><br>Since you have 1000's then just show me say 10 photos of the Maroons from the 1915-1925 time period that you own.
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Posted By: <b>Steve F</b><p> You say repeatedly, that you don't take things seriously here yet, continue to be a horse's ass. Don't stomp your feet and whine if Another knows more than you about a subject. If you can't take it, then pick up your Cowboys and Indians and go home. <br><br> I can't believe people here continue to help this ingrate.
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Posted By: <b>John</b><p>Marshall I have lived in PA for many years Rhys is correct there are pleanty of small minor league images around. From large to small to PC etc.<br><br>
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Posted By: <b>marshall barkman</b><p>Steve...man bro you must be having a tough month so go change the rag my man. I'm not whining or complaining, actually your post did wonders for the all time whiner award. I believe if you scroll up i was talking to Dan about the photo and then showed him some cabinet cards which was no big deal. As usual per this board here comes the bored stiffs that are miserable and they love to feel as if they are part of a group so most chime in with critical and personal remarks which i do not take serious.<br><br>You should change your emoticon to Bring the Tampax.<br><br>
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Posted By: <b>marshall barkman</b><p>John...i'm not doubting what you say but i never see them. One thing is for sure there is not thousands. I'm only talking about the Chambersburg,Greencastle,Carlisle area. I'm sure Western Pa towards Pittsburgh there may be alot. There is about 10 antique stores i visit once a week and i never see anyhting old baseball not just photos. What i do see is alot of Civil War GAR photos.
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Posted By: <b>leon</b><p>Please try to be more civil on the board. I understand the whole deal. You don't need to tell me you are only defending yourself etc etc...I got it...All I am asking is that you try to get along a little better...take care and......thanks
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Posted By: <b>marshall barkman</b><p>Leon... a guy calls me a horse's ass and a ingrate so what do you expect. If your gonna throw the flag for flagrant foul then at least grab both parties.
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Posted By: <b>Steve F</b><p>Jeez, ya didn't have to rat me out!.. Okay, Marshall, I apologize for calling you an ingrate.
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Posted By: <b>leon</b><p>As I said, I understand. You need to remember we consider each other a family on Net54. A dysfunctional one maybe, but a family nonetheless. So, if you attack someone, or call someone that is well respected, like Rhys, a retard.....then realize others will come to their defense. I consider everyone on the board a friend, including you, so please do me this small favor....thanks man!!
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Posted By: <b>barrysloate</b><p>Marshall- you do realize that whether you feel attacked or not, you are in the middle of an awful lot of these disagreements. Steve, John, and Rhys are well respected members of the board and have been here a long time. I think we would all appreciate a friendlier tone. I'm glad you posted some neat early photos, but why fight over this stuff?
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Posted By: <b>Rhett Yeakley</b><p>Marshall, Rhys isn't speaking out of his butt here, this piece is exactly is exactly the kind of piece he deals in. The photo is nice and may be worth more than $200 to someone, but not by too much. Here is Rhys's website so that you can see the type and quality of stuff he deals in. <br><br><a href="http://prewarsports.com" target="_new" rel="nofollow">http://prewarsports.com</a>/<br><br>You are VERY defensive, people here are giving it to you straight--something I would think you of all people would appreciate. You seem to have a knack for talking down to the some of the most knowledgable people in the entire hobby after they try to lend you a hand. Heaven knows we have all paid too much for something that we thought was cool. This piece is a typical piece that may perform better at a show (where size and quality can be appreciated) that it would on ebay, where those same qualities often go unnoticed.<br><br>-Rhett<br>
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Posted By: <b>marshall barkman</b><p>Steve....it's all good and i really don't care what you call me.
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Posted By: <b>marshall barkman</b><p>Well Barry i just find it odd that someone states they have 1000's of early baseball photos from my area which i know is not true, my bad for calling the guy a retard. The area i am currently at is highly collected and sought after because of the scarcity of items. Any Clyde Laughlin post card in regards to the turnpike or train wrecks is worth hundreds of dollars. Also Mont Alto and Chambersburg have avid collectors who could care less about money when it comes to aquiring items because of the scarcity. In regards to John i was not really even talking to him about the Indian photos and then he claims to be a avid collector of CDV's and photos but has to search to find Indian ones. I will also add that my cabinet is hand signed by Barry not printed. Jeez if he were so avid a collector and Indian photos are so plentiful then i figure the guy had about 50 or so laying around and would not have to search for them online. I really never questioned Dan about his remark on the value of the photo. All i said was at the auction he would never got a bid card in the air which was true so i meant the guy no harm. <br><br>What i think is hilarious about some guys on this board is that they read my posts. Trust me if i don't like a person,band or gal then i do not go near them. Really maybe perhaps if these chaps who do not care for me would just skip my posts all would be good. There was no problem between Dan and i regarding the post and i did find John to be helpful in the situation but we differ on opinion as to how rare the cabinets are.<br><br>In regards to Leon's comments Baseball cards and antiques are a business to me pure and simple. I figured this to be a public message board which anyone can join to do research and buy-sell old baseball cards. I mean what kind of people talk about family deaths and private matters over a public message board? I'm not looking to join a family because i have one and call me old school but i keep a close watch on this heart of mine, i keep my eyes wide open all the time. I'm also not looking to argue or fight with folks but if i disagree then i'll speak my mind. If someone calls me a ingrate then i call someone a retard so who cares? Leon is cool and i think he is hilarious but to many people try and hold the guy over a barrel in regards to me.<br><br>In the 70's Nashville and record execs gave up on Johnny Cash. In his last gig with Columbia records here was his response which i just love, the guy was very ballsy and took zero slack from negative naysayers. Now that is how you BRING THE NOISE to the critics baby (-:,<img src="http://www.network54.com/Realm/tmp/1232996647.JPG" alt="[linked image]">
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Posted By: <b>marshall barkman</b><p>Rhys....your site is very impressive and i'm sure you are a expert on baseball photos however there was no photo from my area on it. Believe me bro i don't think 1000's were even produced. In regards to Clyde Laughlin the photographer from shippensburg he only made 20 to 30 panoramic views of the 1906 Shippensburg team which i sold for 750.00 and he was the most famous photographer in the area.
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Posted By: <b>leon</b><p>I have several Johnny Cash DVD's. I listen to him a fair bit. I like Hank Williams Sr. even better though. Now there was a renegrade and truly great musician. I never get tired of hearing his Honky Tonk. I think a lot of rock and roll originated from old bluesy country and western singers...btw, You don't need to be part of the family to join our board but over the longhall a lot of fighting will be frowned upon.......take care
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Posted By: <b>marshall barkman</b><p>Leon...i met Hank the 3rd while living in Nashville and he is hilarious and i love Hank Sr. I'm really not trying to fight with folks but if i disagree then there is a onslaught of negative and critical remarks which i reply to. To me these guys have egos the size of Terrel Owens and half of them don't produce the goods they claim to own. A guy claims to have 1000's of photos from my area yet on his website he has 0. <br><br>The truth of the matter is when i post something these folks just kind of swarm and then when one gets critical here comes the entire pack with the banning comments when i respond back. It is all hilarious to me and in regards to the Chambersburg photo i spoke to a gentleman who is regarded very highly in his knowledge on Chambersburg items especially baseball. He said there would possibly have been photos made of that team for members of the team and also possibly 5 to 10 more for the business elite. He also stated the condition of my photo would make it all the more rare because it is perfect still in the original frame untouched. <br><br>To me something is rare if their is only like 20 to 50 ever made because most will be damaged or destroyed. Items that are one of a kind are not considered rare, they are considered what they are which is the only item in the world known to exist so bid accordingly.
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Posted By: <b>leon</b><p>Again, I get it. For the record...with what I collect....20-50 is very common...I enjoy things where less than 5 are known. I probably have at least 100 such cards. Don't ask me to prove it <img src="/images/happy.gif" height="14" width="14" alt="happy.gif">. I think we can all see what goes on and I usually do defend you somewhat....but I don't like it when you call my friends names...and vice versa, they shouldn't be piling on you either......take care (here's a 1 of 1 for you)<br><br><img src="http://luckeycards.com/pe222awa.jpg" alt="[linked image]">
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Posted By: <b>John</b><p>"In regards to John i was not really even talking to him about the Indian photos and then he claims to be a avid collector of CDV's and photos but has to search to find Indian ones. I will also add that my cabinet is hand signed by Barry not printed. Jeez if he were so avid a collector and Indian photos are so plentiful then i figure the guy had about 50 or so laying around and would not have to search for them online."<br><br>First off Marshall I said I was an avid collector of CDVs I didnt say Native American CDVs did I?<br><br>Secondly having collected CDVs and photos Im aware of Native American images and rough values and when you posted those above and said "I own some of the rarest on the planet" based on those images I would disagree.<br><br>I looked on the net because you called me out and said good luck finding another image of Sitting Bull with a peace pipe. Wow a whole 2 seconds and what did I find? Lots of the same image not surprising as its one of the most popular and reproduced images of Sitting Bull but being such an expert Im not sure how that slipped by you?<br><br>Your type has come and gone on this board time and time again. You kick in the door talk a big game produce very little in the way of substance to backup outlandish claims, then get your feelings hurt in the process of calling everyone else idiots.<br><br>There are many folks on here with much bigger collections and wallets compared to you but they dont need to bring the noise. Why you ask? <br><br>Simple those who do have nothing to prove, those who talk big game generally have very little in the way of substance. Of course I cant wait to be proven wrong, but I think all that will be provided is more noise and insults and very little in the way of substance.<br><br>Perhaps you should try to bring a little humility or silence vs. noise you might make a few friends and learn a thing or two. <br><br>And as for people on here with big egos I dont see anyone else acting like you. Also just because nobody understands or likes you doesnt make you an artist or extreme person. <br><br>John<br><br>P.S. You are no Johnny Cash guy...the only thing you have in common with Cash is you may own an article or two of black clothing.<br>
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Posted By: <b>Steve F</b><p>Well done John. Wish I had your control. <br><br>I'm CERTAIN our new 'Man in Black' will be receptive to your suggestion <img src="/images/wink.gif" height="14" width="14" alt="wink.gif">
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Posted By: <b>marshall barkman</b><p>Well first John i agreed that i was wrong on the Sitting Bull piece and also thanked you for finding the info. Second you produced no image of Big Deer and third the image you produced of Running Antelope was a Wisconsin piece that was not hand signed. I doubt that you even own one Indian cabinet much less a hand signed one by Barry.<br><br>Yes my cards were sold at Milehigh and yes the Harry Bay brought 1700 and yes two of the Southern Leaguers are the highest graded on the PSA pop report so enough said in regards to that. In regards to the Johnny Cash comment you do not even know me so we'll let that one be. One thing is for damn sure Johnny Cash is not hanging with any dude called Willy Wonka.<img src="http://www.network54.com/Realm/tmp/1233000519.JPG" alt="[linked image]">
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Baseball team Maroons photos 1915
Posted By: <b>Rhys</b><p>Marshall<br><br>I never said I owned thousands of Chambersburg photos, that would be ridiculous. I have owned several thousand minor league team and individual photos from this time period for all teams. I have owned probably 40-50 from Chambersburg including the estate of John Bowers who was a native from Chambersburg and played for them, as well as managing their teams thoughout the 1900's until the 1930's. This collection alone included several team photos, minor league real photo postcards, contracts from when he played for them, team correspondances etc. Several hundred items aside from the photos mentioned. I know a thing or two about memorabilia from this area of the country. I sold much nicer photos than yours for about $200 and was hard pressed to get that and had to sit on them for a while. I was simply stating that just because you claim somthing to be worth X amount, or pay a certain amount for something, does not make it so. <br><br>I could say much more here but I wont, I dont want to regret anything tomorrow morning. <br><br>Best of luck in your collecting Marshall. <br><br>Rhys
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Baseball team Maroons photos 1915
Posted By: <b>John</b><p>I clearly said I dont collect Native American CDV's but had knowledge of them. <br><br>Perhaps you can go back and read my post again. Bring the hooked on phonics vs. the noise next time and you will be able to read what I post.<br><br>But hey wow what a shock more noise and no substance, Marshall at least your dependable sort of like a Swiss time piece of BS.<br><br>P.S. For your size ego and trash talk I would pack a little more heat than 2 PSA low pop Southern League cards, 2 beat CDVs and a $200 minor league photo just FYI. But hey you don't care right that's why your going to reply and cry to this post...cause you don't care and you're a rockstar.LOL<br>
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Baseball team Maroons photos 1915
Posted By: <b>James Todd</b><p>I always find it funny when so much posturing goes on in reference to something so un-tough as collecting baseball memorabilia. I'm sure ping pong enthusiasts fight too, but come on.
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Posted By: <b>leon</b><p>Marshall....here ya go buddy...this should set ya'.....<br><br><br><br><br><img src="http://www.network54.com/Realm/tmp/1233001725.JPG" alt="[linked image]">
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Baseball team Maroons photos 1915
Posted By: <b>Jim VB</b><p>In this case, does PhD. stand for "Piled higher & Deeper"?
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Baseball team Maroons photos 1915
Posted By: <b>Rawn Hill</b><p>Looks like a train wreck to me, but hey, it's fun to deal with egos.<br><br>Rawn
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Baseball team Maroons photos 1915
Posted By: <b>James Todd</b><p>I think it stands for Please Hit Delete
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Baseball team Maroons photos 1915
Posted By: <b>marshall barkman</b><p>Let me tell you of another photo i currently own. No it's not rare and i don't produce any goods. Both museums in Deadwood do not have a baseball team photo nor do they know anyone who does because they were all destroyed in fires. No Seth Bullock and Sal Starr are not sitting in the bleachers, also that is not the individual in the middle who personally buried Calamity Jane and also Wild Bill Hickock. No all the players are not identified on the back and it is not in it's original period frame. Also there is no known photo of Al Swearigan ever found just possible guesses at a few and that is fact. He just may be sitting to the right of Seth Bullock. Now how about a friendly bet of say 10,000 cash since you are so affluent John and such a high roller that and know me so well and you will see what i own. Go ahead and call the Adams museum and see if the curator has one there or knows of one anywhere. Bro you have no idea what i own or anything about me. All your doing is speculating from things i have said on this board and people like yourself are ahhhhh BBBOOOOORRRRIINNNGGGG. <br><br>No i also am not currently in charge of selling the family farm in Luray Va with Sloans & Kenyon. Go ahead all knowing one pick up the phone and call Sloans and Kenyon which is located in Bethesda and ask for Stephanie Kenyon who is the CEO and personal friend of mine and see if what i state is true. It is the only farm where General Stonewall Jackson and also Union General James Meade used as headquarters during the civil war. No my great grandfather did not fight in the civil war under Stonewall Jackson and also the farm is not 210 acres listed on the historical registry. I would post a pic for you but it is to large. MAJOR NOISE IS BROUGHT but their is no exaggerating to what i own. <br>
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Posted By: <b>marshall barkman</b><p>John...the cards sold for almost 40,000 as a package and the Sothern Leaguers which i believe to be around 40 total were some of the finest to exist so show me a auction result where you landed 40k. Also these cards are only the beginning to what i own. Rhys i to have some things from The Bowers estate including a 1923 Pittsburgh Pirates team signed ball dedicated to clyde Barnhart. No hard feelings bro and good luck to you as well in regards to your collecting.
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Posted By: <b>marshall barkman</b><p>Leon...we need more cowbell. Where in the hell is the cowbell baby?
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Posted By: <b>Rawn Hill</b><p>Now this is just silly.<br><br>Rawn
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Baseball team Maroons photos 1915
Posted By: <b>John</b><p>Yawn...why I should have to bet or pay you to see any real or imagined items you're the one talking big game. All I'm saying is what we all are thinking great love to see it...so far nothing that warrants all the NOISE.<br><br>I have no intention of playing any of your games or falling into your fantasy land.<br> <br>REAL collectors post items of rarity all the time on this board without childish games...and NOISE they do it because they are collectors not to show off how big their Johnson's are unless it's actually a Johnson.<br> <br>Like I said I'll wait to eat my words...no substance all NOISE nothing new what a shock.<br><br>Tick, tick, tick go Ol' Swiss Time BS Marshall.<br><br>Done chatting with you now I'll wait till some substance hits the table. Metaphorically speaking I don't play poker with folks unless I know they can cover the ante.<br><br>Bring the SUBSTANCE.
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Posted By: <b>Tim</b><p>It's a shame some great collections are wasted on those without class.
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Baseball team Maroons photos 1915
Posted By: <b>Rawn Hill</b><p>OK, let's let Marshall resurrect the 1 of 1 thread.<br><br>Rawn
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Baseball team Maroons photos 1915
Posted By: <b>marshall barkman</b><p>Well from what i see Wonka you put me in a category of folks who do not produce goods. I have done nothing to warrant that type of accusation and generally when i produce the goods the busy little bees just fly away.<img src="http://www.network54.com/Realm/tmp/1233005141.JPG" alt="[linked image]">
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Posted By: <b>marshall barkman</b><p>No it does not belong to me. It's just all make believe. Man bro i could post some sick pics of items i own but i know it just ruins the sale when it goes to auction. The Deadwood photo is one of my favorites because i dig Seth Bullock and generally speaking a photo of him is considered rare in certain circles. I'm quite sure when it goes to auction that a collector of Western memorabilia or historical towns will beat the baseball guys on bidding. From all the people i have talked to it is the only known existing photo of a Deadwood baseball team that is turn of the century, to my knowledge it is the oldest existing photo on the planet. Also i might add i'm sure Deadwood fans from all over may like the item because the series on HBO created a cultural following hence the website was created. Both museums have interest in the photo and plan on bidding when i decide what to do with it.
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Posted By: <b>John</b><p>Neat item, not sure it's as amazing as you make it out to be after reading your disc. of the above CDV's I have to take everything you say with a grain of salt sorry. <br><br>So is the above image worth all the noise I say no...<br><br>John
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Baseball team Maroons photos 1915
Posted By: <b>marshall barkman</b><p>Simply because you do not follow western folklore John. Here are some facts for you. Seth bullock was close friends with Ted Roosevelt and he also was responsible for the divide of South & North Dakota into statehood. He played a major role in the developement of Mt. Rushmore and also was the territories first real Sheriff.In regards to Swearigan There is currently a 1,000,000 bounty set by a private colector for anyone who can produce a image of Al Swearigan and have it identified as such by the experts. You see John baseball guys always want famous players or someone like Rube Wadell in the photo. Most baseball folks could care less about the rareity of a item if a hall of famer is not in it. To a museum like the one in Deadwood though a team baseball picture with heroes of the town is worth it's weight in gold and would mean alot to them in order to display it because it is a part of the towns history. <br><br>Here is case in point. A friend of mine bought a Ranch 101 painting in Philadelphia at a high end art auction. All the so called art experts were there and everyone boo-hooed the painting and swayed around the room smelling each other's farts and criticizing the painting . It was a gentleman riding a cowboy delivering mail to Ranch 101 and was dated in the mid 1800's. He bought the painting for 600 dollars and really no one even paid any attention. I listened to what his plan was and thought who cares what these bozos think because all they know is Daniel Garber, Scott Duncanson, Earl Moran and so on. One art dealer asked me why we bought it and i replied because i think it may be worth 5 figures, he scoffed and said SUCKER and then walked off.<br><br>My buddy then sent the painting to Waco Texas to a high end auction house and it blew out for 28,500 plus 15% buyer premium. Not everyone is a expert all the time and my theory is different horses for different courses. The painting made the front page of the Antique Monthly so i know the folks in Philadelphia were shocked and i wonder how the art dealer feels who called me a sucker is doing with his 4,000 watercolor that is now worth 2000 because of the economy?
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Baseball team Maroons photos 1915
Posted By: <b>J Levine</b><p>Marshall does not understand that he is not #1...he is the classic little dog barking at the big dog...he is the bully who finally finds someone bigger, badder and better and starts to whine and cry...attention seeker. I have no doubt Marshall has a nice collection and some knowledge about baseball. What Marshall does not have is more experience in baseball photos than Rhys, more general knowledge and class than John, and the respect of the board.<br><br>Just as a comparison Marshall...Ted and Scott R. know more about t206s than I ever will and the difference between them and you is that they do not self-promote, they do not take everything seriously, and when shown they are wrong about something, they admit it and move on with thanks and respect.<br><br>Marshall, you need to learn respect. I was just starting to respect you when you actually posted something of interest and then it all went away...<br><br>Joshua<br><br>PS There are literally 25 people who post on this board that have rare museum quality pieces. You are not unique in this respect.
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