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Posted By: <b>JimCrandell</b><p>under $3 for regular everywhere and heading lower.<br /><br />High-end cards will maintain value.<br /><br />Ted--what are you doing to help the good guys in Pa--is the state really going for Barack Obama????

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Posted By: <b>Jodi Birkholm</b><p>Ted,<br /><br />Wow, it's really dropped in PA since I saw you in Reading. When I left the state in late July, regular 87 octane was fetching $4.09/gallon. At the time of the Reading show, the price had dropped 50 cents. Now you're telling me that it's all the way down to $2.89?! That's great news!<br /><br />Up here in Canada, gas was selling for more than $6/gallon at one time. It's down to about $4.32 now. Our gas is sold in litres, however (about 1/4 of a U.S. gallon), and it was at $1.08/liter last night.<br /><br />Take care,<br /><br />Bjork

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Posted By: <b>Tom Boblitt</b><p>still $3.18 this morning but I suspect it'll push $3.00 by mid next week. Spoke with a guy at the local BP on a trip last week and he said it'd be pushing $2.60 in a month. Heard an analyst yesterday on the radio said $40/Barrel oil in the near future. Find that hard to believe but $65-$70 seems reasonable. My 16 year old who just started driving is breathing a small sigh of relief. His $$ are stretching just a little more!<br /><br />

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Posted By: <b>leon</b><p>In N.Texas, in small towns, I am seeing about $2.89 - $2.99......I think this is a great thing since many that really feel the squeeze at the pump aren't fortunate (or unfortunate as of late) to own stocks. The working class are probably better with the gas going down than the stocks going up....and I understand the trickle down too. But when they see their $300 paycheck and divvy up the bills....they aren't looking at stock prices they are looking at their wallets. <br /><br />As for cards....I am glad I have more cards than stock right now.....I am an optimist. Things will get better..

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Posted By: <b>barrysloate</b><p>You wouldn't believe it, but gas in Sag Harbor was still $4.19 a gallon last time I filled up. They really take advantage out there.<br /><br />And it looks like it's time for Ted and I to have one of our every-four-years bets on who is going to win the election. <img src="/images/happy.gif" height=14 width=14>

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Posted By: <b>James Feagin</b><p>My brother lives in Adams County, Pennsylvania and agrees with the "bitter people who resort to their guns and religion" statement. "What can I say, where I live its true", my brother said. The cheapest I've seen gas in Central Maryland is $3.33 per gallon.

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Posted By: <b>JimCrandell</b><p>Ted,<br /><br />Thanks--I always feel a lot better after reading what you have to say on politics.<br /><br />Maybe the "bitter people who resort to their guns and religion" will rise up--the new silent majority.<br /><br />I always thought of Pennsylvania as the inner citie of Philly and Pitt overwhelmingly democratic and the rest of the state Republican.Hopefully that will persist and the rest of the state will overwhelm the two inner cities.<br /><br />The steps to which the Democratic party and its wholly owned affiliates(Acorn, Move On, Kos) etc will go to win this election are astounding.

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Posted By: <b>sagard</b><p>Gas coming down takes a lot of pressure off everyone. The way are country has been built, gas is basically a tax. Very hard to avoid. If either McCain or Obama would step up and address this issue head on they would get my vote.<br /><br />If and it's a big if Obama manages to win, our kids will thank us. Number one it will be a decisive blow to the politics and policies of our current admin. Number two we will get an actual fiscal conservative party back as a choice in four years, not simply the faux-conservative party which is currently running.

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Posted By: <b>James Feagin</b><p>Jim,<br /><br />There's a reason why they call it "Pennsyltucky" or the "Alabama of the North". I'm an Arkansas Razorbacks fan. If you want to speak to other like-minded people, go to www.hogcall.com and you'll be sure to find many more conservatives than you will here <img src="/images/happy.gif" height=14 width=14><br /><br />James

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Posted By: <b>Dan Bretta</b><p>Gas is now under $3.00 here in Nebraska....this is good news for me as I own a store that relies on people having expendable income. I heard The Donald (Trump) on TV the other day saying he thinks oil should be at $40 a barrel NOW. That would be nice to get gas back to under $2.00 gallon...would help me and a lot of businesses out.

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Posted By: <b>Jeff Mohler</b><p>Right now in Lancaster County the lowest I have seen is $3.19. Since gas is something most of us use (with the possible exception of our friends in NYC), lower gas prices have the same effect as an economic stimulus package, except it doesn't come in one big chunk.

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Posted By: <b>JimCrandell</b><p>James,<br /><br />Pretty much the whole south.<br /><br />Southeners and overwhelmingly so southern whites are for McCain.<br /><br />The Demographics of the country are changing and it is making it more and more difficult for a Republican to win.

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Posted By: <b>JimCrandell</b><p>Dan,<br /><br />Whats McCain ahead in Nebraska in the polls--like 30 points?

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Posted By: <b>James Feagin</b><p>Jim,<br /><br />As a person who studies demographics as a hobby (I know, what a nerd!)I have a pretty good grasp of who is going to win the election if it were held today. Obama could lose key battlegrounds like Pennsylvania and Florida, and still win. In 2004, I called 49 out of 50 states correctly (dang New Mexico) so I would like to think I know this stuff pretty well.

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Posted By: <b>Dan Bretta</b><p>I don't know for sure Jim, but in my district my vote for Obama is probably hopeless...on the other hand Nebraska is one of only two states that is not a winner take all in the electoral vote category and the second district (basically Omaha) is very competitive and Obama may take one electoral vote out of here. We only have 5 to give so not that big of a deal anyway, but in a close race Omaha could decide the presidency!

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Posted By: <b>sagard</b><p>"The Demographics of the country are changing and it is making it more and more difficult for a Republican to win."<br /><br />This is absurd. Republicans have the platform which is right. Low taxes, fiscal responsibility and less government. <br /><br />The problem is they have strayed so far from their core beliefs, they are very hard for people in the middle to support.<br /><br />

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Posted By: <b>Korey</b><p>2.97 this morning in Central Ohio. Of course I filled up yesterday for 3.27

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Posted By: <b>Dan Bretta</b><p>You nailed it Sagard...the facts are the facts.<br /><br />Reagan - expanded the federal government, raised taxes and almost spent us into oblivion.<br /><br />edited to add the upside to Reagan - he lowered taxes then had to raise them out of necessity, and the spending helped in some part (Not as much as Wingers like to give him credit) to bring down the Soviet Union.<br /><br />Bush the elder - raised taxes and it got him booted from office in 92 because he broke his promise not to.<br /><br />Clinton - balanced the budget, shrunk the government, signed off on welfare reform, and lowered taxes.<br /><br />Bush the idiot - lowered taxes, spent us into oblivion and bloated the federal government. He will leave this country in far worse shape than he found it..not all of it his fault, but he will take the brunt of the blame in the history books.<br /><br />Now the GOP choice is a guy promising to put the federal government in the mortgage business???

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Posted By: <b>Craig W</b><p>$2.79 in Wichita, KS, this morning.

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Posted By: <b>Tom Boblitt</b><p>in reverse.......<br />

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Posted By: <b>Jodi Birkholm</b><p>We're moving on down? Fish <i>do</i> fry in the kitchen? What's the opposite of a Roxie Roker?

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Posted By: <b>jP</b><p>still too high! $3.37 in my barrio <br><br>my collection: <a href="http://s102.photobucket.com/albums/m95/obaks/" target="_new" rel="nofollow">http://s102.photobucket.com/albums/m95/obaks/</a>

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Posted By: <b>1880nonsports</b><p>that the majority of posters here are for Mcpain. It makes me think you care more about your cards than the world you'll be leaving to your children..........

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Posted By: <b>Kyle</b><p>$4.19 last time I pumped on Ashland and Clybourn in Chicago, about 1.5 miles from Wrigley Field.<br /><br />

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Posted By: <b>Fred C</b><p>About $3.35 a gallon in the San Diego area for 87 octane

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Posted By: <b>Alan U</b><p>$3.29 in Las Vegas/Henderson<br /><br /><br />

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Posted By: <b>JimB</b><p>"Don't let these POLLS frighten you"<br /><br />Yeah, remember '04. Exit polls showed Kerry winning by a landslide. But then he lost. Rove and Co. have ways of fixing this sort of thing.<br />JimB

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Posted By: <b>Jeff Mohler</b><p>Just got back from a trip into town. The price is $2.99 - 20 cent drop in 1/2 day.<br /><br />As a life long Republican, I have to admit I have no confidence in the ability of the GOP to control spending.

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Posted By: <b>ScottDango</b><p>question? <br /> <br /> where are the largest Oil/natural gas deposits in the world?<br /><br /> answer- Alsaka, USA...<br /><br /> who has the pull with alaskans to get this done?<br /><br /> Palin......her most valuable asset is her ability to draw needed resources from our portion of the earth...

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Posted By: <b>JimCrandell</b><p>Scott,<br /><br />Are you telling me Alaka has more oil than Saudi Arabia?

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Posted By: <b>ScottDango</b><p>Yes, Geothermal imaging from space has shown that the Alaskan region has more cupic tons of oil....<br /><br />edited to add: the Saudis know they have a limited supply and that is why they are trying to get as much money for it now...similarly the arab nations are trying to position themselves with life after oil by building up their tourist economy....

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Posted By: <b>Bobby Binder</b><p>In Kauai at Costco it is $3.99 guess the lower prices have not hit here yet.

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Posted By: <b>Pennsylvania Ted</b><p>Hey guy, I love you.....however, you have to get your information accurate......you stated......<br /><br />" remember '04. Exit polls showed Kerry winning by a landslide. But then he lost. Rove and Co. have ways of fixing this sort of thing."<br /><br />Those early afternoon "exit polls" in 2004 were proven to be highly skewed....the sampling of Dems was approx. twice that of Repubs.<br />And, it was deliberately done to discourage voters from voting for George Bush. It's a game the media plays every 4 years.<br />When it was all said and done, Bush won with 62,000,000+ votes......the highest of any Presidential candidate.<br /><br />In 2000 Tom Brokaw erroneously called Florida for Gore way before the people in the Fla. Panhandle were finished voting.<br /><br /><br />JIM....part 2<br /><br />Two years ago the Dems in Congress told us to vote for them and we would get...."CHANGE" ! ! ! ! !<br /><br />So, many voted for them....and, we got "CHANGE"....change in the form of coins, not $$$$. A year ago the DOW was at its highest at<br /> 14,000 and gas was less than $2.00.<br /><br />Well, we got "CHANGE" alright with the DEMS controlling Congress.....no wonder Congress has the lowest rating ever recorded....8%.<br /><br />Even George Bush has a rating of 25-30%<br /><br />TED Z<br /><br />

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Posted By: <b>DaveW</b><p> Here in the SF Bay area, the cheapest is about $3.50/gal<br />with most still at $3.65 or so. Obama is so far ahead<br />here that the candidates don't even bother to campaign<br />here anymore - they just stop by every once in a while to <br />raise money.<br />- Dave

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Posted By: <b>Tom Boblitt</b><p>fix stuff like Rove can?<br />

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Posted By: <b>JimB</b><p>Ted, my friend,<br />I know we have different view on politics in general, but I share with you a frustration with the democratic congress. My guess is that our frustrations are probably for different reasons.<br />Take care,<br />jim

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Posted By: <b>Ken Wirt</b><p>$2.69/gallon in SW Missouri. We often are the lowest in the nation.

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Posted By: <b>ROBERT ADAMS JR</b><p><a href="http://s187.photobucket.com/albums/x160/bobadams123/?action=view&current=GASOLINECARSCOOp2.jpg" target="_blank"><img src="http://i187.photobucket.com/albums/x160/bobadams123/GASOLINECARSCOOp2.jpg" border="0" alt="Photobucket"></a> I should add that as bad as the Netherlands has it , what they have legalized more then makes up for it .

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Posted By: <b>boxingcardman</b><p>Just wish my retirement accounts weren't falling just as fast...<br><br>Sic Gorgiamus Allos Subjectatos Nunc

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Posted By: <b>sagard</b><p>People seem to hold the Dem congress in contempt despite not having enough to override filibuster. Wish they'd hold their own admin to 1/10 that accountability.

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Posted By: <b>Anonymous</b><p>2.74 in Lakeville, MN

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Posted By: <b>G. Maines</b><p>Ted Z:<br /><br />Gasoline costs are nominally 15x the price as when you started driving, and the average salaries are too.<br /><br />What has been the ratio of Republican vs. Democrat during this interval?<br /><br />Gil

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Posted By: <b>Ken McMillan</b><p>$3.15 a gallon.....Tucson, Arizona

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Posted By: <b>David McDonald</b><p><img src="http://photos.imageevent.com/kawika_o_ka_pakipika/family/lifeinhawaii2/websize/DSC06254.JPG"><br /><br />Photo taken last week. Paper says cost of gas is supposed to come under four bucks and then we can all go out and buy Hummers.

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Posted By: <b>Anonymous</b><p>$3.89<br />Santa Barbara, California

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Posted By: <b>Dan Bretta</b><p>Interesting that gas is even going down anywhere right now with the shortages in the south due to Hurricane Ike. I really don't know the supply networks so I can never figure out why gas goes up and down.

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Posted By: <b>Ryan Christoff</b><p>Ted drives a foreign car?<br /><br />-Ryan<br /><br />

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Posted By: <b>JimCrandell</b><p>Ted,<br /><br />A high percentage of the price in the U.S. goes to taxes as well--both state and local.<br /><br />Maybe Barack will throw a tax on gasoline to pay for his social welfare programs.<br /><br />Here is an example of the markets working beautifully.

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Posted By: <b>Pennsylvania Ted</b><p>I also have a 1957 Ford Thunderbird and a 1960 T-Bird.....two great American Heavy Metal machines.....<br />is that "Patriotic" enough for you ?<br /><br />Next time you travel EAST, stop by in Pennsylvania, and I will be happy to take you for a ride in my <br />classic cars. Then we can drive each other crazy talking politics, baseball, baseball cards, etc.<br /><br />TED Z<br /><br />

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Posted By: <b>sagard</b><p>A Pigovian tax on gas would be the absolute best thing either McCain or Obama could do as president. Gas is subsidized to the tune of $5-$10 per gallon when the direct military costs of it's acquisition is factored in. <br /><br />

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Posted By: <b>JimCrandell</b><p>Drill baby Drill.<br /><br />In the great wasteland called the Alaskan National Wildlife Refuge and offshore our coastline.<br />Every other country in the world does it. The industry has shown it can do it in an environmentally safe way.<br /><br /><br />I got a kick out of whoever stated Obama now favoring drilling off our coasts was a great example of his "flexibility". When the vast majority of the country favors something, he will change his position to be more electable. Rest assured, that when the election is finished the Obama, Biden, Pelosi wing of the Democratic party will stop any move to increase drilling.

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Posted By: <b>sagard</b><p>Of course they will Jim. Gas is back down under $3 per gallon and no leaders in this country look out past the next two weeks.<br /><br />To me the only reason not to drill is that our oil would be the single greatest asset we can pass (along with our mountain of debt) to the next generation. Funny how not a single politician is willing to make that statement.

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Posted By: <b>Jeff Lichtman</b><p>"I got a kick out of whoever stated Obama now favoring drilling off our coasts was a great example of his "flexibility". When the vast majority of the country favors something, he will change his position to be more electable. Rest assured, that when the election is finished the Obama, Biden, Pelosi wing of the Democratic party will stop any move to increase drilling."<br /><br />Well, just look at Obama's statement to AIPAC (a pro-Israeli lobbying group) this year in which he stated he supported an undivided Jerusalem. He was cheered for this position -- until the next day when he caught hell from the opposition. Of course, he immediately changed his position. As I've said before, Obama is basically a marketing plan who will say anything, do anything to get elected. Anything.

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Posted By: <b>ROBERT ADAMS JR</b><p> Ted Z . So , the citizens should suffer ?

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Posted By: <b>Anonymous</b><p>With GAS as low as $2.89 at some pumps, are we that bad off ?<br /><br />Yes, if we have no 401K left to retire on and have to have our taxes bail out multimillion and multibillionares! It's like being offered a mandatory two for one special at the proctologist's office. <br /><br />As far as cards, no. I keep merrily purchasing cards just like I have in the past.<br /><br />

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Posted By: <b>Chuck Ross</b><p>I find it amusing that just like the frog who will be oblivious to his impending death in a pot of slowly heated water, we find that gas at $2.90 a gallon is encouraging. A little over three years ago, most people were shocked when gas crossed the $2/gallon barrier. Have your salaries and retirement plans kept up with that 50% increase? <br /><br />I also find the "Drill Baby Drill" sentiments quite lame. Yes, the oil in the ANWR would help a little, but both the Energy Dept. and USGS estimate that peak flow would be for only about five years and would mainly help the west coast. I'm not speaking here as a Republican or Democrat but as an engineer (and card collector since 1968). With the rise of India and China, we have got to stop being so short sighted. If we want our kids and grandkids to enjoy anything like the lifestyles we have enjoyed, we need a national initiative to seek out alternatives to fossil fuels. I have normally voted Republican, but I have to think that if we had focused our military efforts these last 7 years on Afghanistan (where the perpetrators of 9/11 originated) and put all the money we have blown in Iraq into fundamental energy research, then we might be getting somewhere.

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Posted By: <b>Pennsylvania Ted</b><p>1st.....Did we not expend our military efforts on Afghanistan immediately after 9/11 ?<br /><br />2nd.....We did and we defeated the Taliban and the Afghan people held their first democratic election. <br />As we sent the Al Queda terrorists on the run......<br /> <br />So, Al quedat ran to Iraq.....our next battle front.<br /><br />Do you not recall the evil Al Queda savages that be-headed Danny Pearl in Iraq. Or, their hanging of<br /> civilian Americans under bridges in Iraq ? I could go on with many more atrocities; but, why waste my<br /> energy trying to inform the un-informed who refuse to objectively recall the events of the past 7 years. <br /><br />3rd.....Did we not fight three fronts in WWII ? ?<br /><br />The Japanese attacked us, but you do recall that we not only fought in the South Pacific, but also....<br /> in Europe....and, in Africa.<br /><br />So, now we have just two fronts.....I don't understand what the problem is with you "nay-sayers" ?<br /><br />Other than your ideology "blinds" you to the reality of the past 7 years. There is evil in this world......<br /> it has not only struck us, but also....Africa....Britain....France....Indonesia.. ..Italy....Spain. Do you not<br /> realize that we must confront it....if we are to survive as a FREE Nation.<br /><br />From 1993-2000 we were struck at least 6 times and the Clinton administration failed to effectively<br />confront the terrorism directed at us. So, this failure emboldened the enemy and they hit us on 9/11.<br /><br />This is not my opinion....it was Bin Laden words after our military embarrassment in Somalia in 1993.<br /><br />Finally......DRILL NOW....DRILL in the USA.....so, we can be FREE of foreign OIL......<br /><br />As an Engineer, I am realistically cognizant that our use of OIL, and its numerous by-products, are<br /> not going to go away in the near future.<br /><br /><br /><br />

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Posted By: <b>Chuck Ross</b><p>Ted, with all due respects to your baseball card posts (which are excellent) I have to take exception to your grasp of world events. You say we defeated the Taliban in Afghanistan...what kind of Kool-Aid are you drinking up there in PA? Did you not read the words of Admiral Mullen, the Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, just two days ago where he stated the situation in Afghanistan was in a "downward spiral" with the Taliban in increasing control?<br /><br />Sure, we had three fronts in WWII (really two as we took Northern African and then Europe). Japan attacked us and then their Axis partners Germany and Italy declared war on us also. In the current case, terrorists harbored in Afghanistan and Pakistan attacked us and we inexplicably sent our main military assault on Iraq. Again, Ted, I am not a Democrat, not a fervent Obama supporter, just a rational human being looking at the evidence. <br /><br />Yes, there is evil in this world and those who espouse that evil are laughing hysterically as they look at the morass we have made for ourselves in Iraq. And you say we should "free ourselves from foreign oil"? Again, as I said in an earlier post, this is a ridiculous short sighted strategy. We need to free ourselves from oil, period. Even if the Alaskan refuge has 10 billion barrels, that is not a long term strategy...that is just a very short term fix. Sometime in this century we are going to have to find some other way to move vehicles around other than oil and internal combustion engines. One hundred years from now people are going to look at these screams for drilling for oil in Alaska as a pathetic tempest in a teapot.

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Posted By: <b>LetsGoBucs</b><p>Just in the interest of being factually correct:<br /><br />Daniel Pearl was kidnapped and executed by extremist in Pakistan. At the time of his kidnapping he was investigating the case of the attempted shoebomber in Pakistan.<br /><br />Don't want to get involved with this discussion also.<br /><br />Regards,

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Posted By: <b>Bob</b><p>Great post Chuck and those others who recognize that off-shore drilling and devestating the last frontier, the Alaskan wilderness is not a solution but only a quick (and short) fix. If we would elect Representatives, Senators and Presidents who weren't beholden to the all mighty oil industry and truly worked hard at alternatives to fossil fuel, maybe, just maybe, we could help cure not only the economy but help the environment. Throw a hundred billion toward research and development of fossil-less fuel vehicles and we could all tell the Middle East and the oil tycoons to sit on it and spin. Much of the research is already there, instead of untold billions in stimulus checks, let's do some real good and work toward a real solution instead of these quick fixes which never work anyway. You can't even find a hybrid vehicle for sale in this part of America which should be an indication to someone that Americans are hungering for vehicles with better gas mileage which are cheaper to run. Hybrids aren't the answer but they are a damn sight better than what we have now. Will we ever wake up.<br />As far as the gas prices going down right before the election, the same as it did before the last election, do you really think it is just a coincidence?

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Posted By: <b>JimCrandell</b><p>Yeah, lets get the Government involved--we know how well that works.<br /><br />Noone is saying ANWR is the cureall but between that and the outer continental shelf it would make a meaningful dent. Then if we lift some of the ridiculous restrictions on the oil industry to drill out west and start to develop our enormous natural gas resources it starts to look better still.<br /><br />You just gotta laugh at these people who think that the Government and not the free market is the solution.

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Posted By: <b>Chuck Ross</b><p>Ted: I'm not oil-phobic, I just believe we are in a very serious situation. At the turn of this century, worldwide oil reserves were about 1.3 trillion barrels and current consumption is about 30 billion barrels a year. <br />I'll let you do the math, but it doesn't work out to all that many years of oil (and this ignores the accelerated rate of demand in India, China, Brazil, etc that we will see in the coming years). Geologists estimate the Alaskan reserve as having about 10.4 billion barrels tops. High estimates for the continental shelf reserves range up to about 115 billion barrels. Ted, you're a smart guy, do the math here...are these viable long term solutions? I am sure as we get desperate to keep the machines moving that we will tap into these and every other possible place we can find oil but by the time this century ends it seems certain that the levels of transportation we see now will be a long forgotten memory unless we can find some other way to provide the energy to propel vehicles around. No, I don't know the answer to what that solution will be, but I have faith that if we have a "send a man to the moon" type national agenda devoted to finding the answer that we will find the answer if it's there. If not, then I suspect that the US and the world will revert to some sort of Mad Max/Road Warrior type environment where gasoline is fought over ferociously. Ted, my dad fought in the Pacific in WWII and in Korea, I have the utmost respect for the men fighting in Iraq...I just think it is a pointless waste of our time and resources.

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Posted By: <b>boxingcardman</b><p>The biggest damned ships in the world are electrical vehicles:<br /><br />The Nimitz-class supercarriers are a line of nuclear-powered aircraft carriers in service with the United States Navy, are the largest capital ships in the world, and are considered to be a hallmark in the United States' superpower status. By tonnage, Nimitz class are the largest class of carriers built so far, holding the world record for displacement of any naval war vessel. When Bush is completed, the ten ships of the class will total just under a million tons combined displacement. Although the Nimitz class ships are the heaviest ships in the US fleet they are not the longest ships in the fleet, as that distinction belongs to the nuclear carrier Enterprise.<br /><br /><br><br>Sic Gorgiamus Allos Subjectatos Nunc

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Posted By: <b>Jason</b><p>As far as gas where I am at is $2.69 per gallon norht of KC. As far as my opinion....Reagan is one of the best presidents that we have ever has up there with Lincoln and a few others. We are seeing ripple effects of Clinton administration come out into our economy now. While I will agree G. W. has not made the best choices, most of the finger pointing can be done to the person and congress he succeeded. As far as this election goes....it is the one I really have no overwhelming likeness to any candidate. I suppose me decision would have to be based on experience and the moral aptitude that our country was founded on. Liberal ideals and corruption have cost us dearly as a nation founded on values. I sincerely hope that some changes come real soon no matter who gets elected. I also predict that we are close to a bottom on fuel prices. One more reason to find alternative energy so when the Arabs run out of oil in the future maybe we can jack wheat and corn up to $100/lb., or maybe they can feast upon camel dung for awhile instead.<br> <br>Jason

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Posted By: <b>Marty Ogelvie</b><p><P>Gas here in Atanta $3.29.. </P><P>I have advised all my co-workers who are screaming for change to vote 3rd party.&nbsp; Now that's change (Dems or Repubs are NOT for change, I don't&nbsp;BELIEVE anything they say).</P><P>&nbsp;</P><P>martyOgelvie<BR></P>

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Posted By: <b>Ted Zanidakis</b><p>So far....KEN WIRT and you have reported the lowest....$2.69/gallon.... in Missouri and Kansas City.<br /><br />JASON.....I appreciate your comments.....and, I agree that GW Bush has made some questionable choices in Fed. Chairman<br /> Bernanke & Secretary Paulson. They should have reigned in the Democrats in Congress (Dodd, Frank, Pelosi, Reid, Schumer,<br /> etc.), who are the prime "culprits" that led to this Sub-Prime lending crises that has "mushroomed" worldwide.<br /><br />Where are the Congressional Hearings....there only exists a "deafening silence"....where is the outrage from the MEDIA ?<br /><br />You know when a (this) crises is the fault of the Democrats....the MEDIA is deathly silent.<br /><br />If Republicans were responsible for this crises....the MEDIA "drum beat" would be incessant ! !<br /><br />T-Rex TED<br /><br />

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Posted By: <b>Jason</b><p>Ted-<br /><br />This happens because the media is extremely liberal and blood, negative propaganda, world crisis is what drives and sells airtime. People are flocked to disaster and thrive taking the garbage the media has to throw at us to heart. Very sad, but very true. I had a feeling this day was coming. Too many people living way beyond their means. You knew it wouldn't/couldn't last forever. Everyone wants to blame Bush because he is the figurehead. The bottom line are there are many at fault including us who took the hook line and sinker that the realtors and banks threw out. GREED and GREED alone is why we are in this mess. The only hope we have now is to get back to the values our forefathers found us on as well as the Biblical principals that our government was founded on. Take the God out of country and this is what you get.....and brother we are turning our backs on him more and more every day. There you have it..... now they can say I brought politics and religion to the thread. <br /><br />Jason<br /><br />edited for typos

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Posted By: <b>Ted Zanidakis</b><p>I will reiterate what Mickey Mantle said to Congress during the BB hearings in the 1950's...."I agree with everything "KC Stengel"<br /> just said".<br /><br />And, here....I agree with everything "KC Jason" just said.<br /><br />For many years we have financed the various homes we have lived in (1st Mortgages and Home Equity loans) thru WELLS FARGO.<br />Even though we were repeat customers for the past 20 years, they were tough every time on checking our financial responsibility.<br /> The same goes for our Bank here in Pennsylvania (PNC). Thank GOD that there still are some responsible institutions in this country.<br />And, I'm sure there are many more such institutions throughout this country.<br />However, it is mind-boggling that a handful of irresponsible institutions can create such chaos ?<br /><br />TED Z<br /><br /> <br />

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Posted By: <b>barrysloate</b><p>Our mortgage is also with Wells Fargo, and they are a great company. They will survive this whole mess.

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Posted By: <b>David Atkatz</b><p>&lt;&lt;However, it is mind-boggling that a handful of irresponsible institutions can create such chaos ?<br /><br />TED Z&gt;&gt;<br /><br />I thought it was Carter and Clinton, Ted.

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Posted By: <b>Jeff Lichtman</b><p>Hey all, I'll be hosting a two hour radio show this week on WABC radio in New York and I'll be reading some of the more bizarre posts made on Net 54 about the presidential race, economy, etc. If anyone has any suggestions feel free to email me.

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Posted By: <b>barrysloate</b><p>Could you give us the exact time and day you will be on?

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Posted By: <b>Tony Galovich</b><p>Our current economic times will affect cards to some degree<br /><br />The better stuff will hold up the best as the the well heeled buyers will always have cash to buy<br />but the average collector will cut back or even stop buying altogether as paying the mortgage/car payment comes 1st, not buying the latest & greatest issue<br /><br />I'm hearing from sellers on Ebay who have items with A Buy it Now are getting offers for their items of 20% - 50% lower than their asking price, bet this trend will get worse as sellers will continue to hold fast on their asking prices as card prices slow descend.<br />Sellers will have to lower their prices to reflect the new lower market values or starve<br /><br />But of course the new lower prices will be good for collectors who are still adding to their collections

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Posted By: <b>Jim VB</b><p>Ted, <br /><br />You may not want to hear this but you are the mirror image of David. He calls people names. You call people names. He's convinced that all the ills of society are brought to bear by the current GOP party and wealthy people. You are convinced you can tie any problems back to the Carter and Clinton administrations, Nancy Pelosi and Barney Frank. You both are more than willing to look past the mistakes of your favored party. <br /><br />I have news for you both. You are both wrong. We don't have any capable and competent politicians right now. Neither side. If these guys were good at what they did, they wouldn't be politicians. Before Clinton got elected he made $34,000 a year as Governor of Arkansas. Bush made more in Texas ($116,000 I think) but he had driven two different companies into bankruptcy. None of these guys understand finance or economics. <br /><br />Most importantly, neither you, David, nor anyone else, will have their minds changed by postings on a baseball card message board. The election will happen. We will have a new President. And 50% of the people will not like him on day 1. Life will go on. <br /><br />We face huge problems as a nation. Dividing the populace more won't help us.