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Posted By: <b>Bobby Binder</b><p>We will be restructuring our membership and implementing a fee increase. There will be two VIP membership types:<br /><br />Silver Membership 12.99 p/month 129.90 p/year<br />Gold Membership 17.99 p/month 179.90 p/year<br /><br />The only difference in site features between both member types is the ability to view links to past auctions/images, seller, buyer and bid count. These features will be available to Gold members only.<br /><br />Right now every VIP is in the GOLD membership which is where you will stay until your current term expires. You can take advantage of this offer by adding up to 5 years of membership at the current $99.99 a year rate. To do this log in at VCP and in the My VCP pull down is "Account" here there is a button to add a year.<br /><br />At the launch of VCP two years ago, we had a total of 150,000 price records that only covered baseball up to the year 1959. Today we have over 1.5 million records and now covering baseball, basketball, football, hockey, boxing and non-sports up to the year 1989. Our cost of operating has increased considerably since our inception as we now have 3 servers to effectively run the website and we are not very far from having to do a major upgrade on our server package. We now have about 300,000 images of cards from past auction and adding about 35,000 new ones every month.<br /><br />In the coming weeks you will notice a yellow alert icon near your username in your user navigation bar. You'll need to click it to select a member type you would like to be so when your term renews it will be charged the appropriate amount.<br /><br />Thank you very much for your support and for solidifying VintageCardPrices.com as the authoritative sports card price guide.

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Posted By: <b>Mark T</b><p>That's a big increase...<br /><br />Have you thought about what members may do, like maybe go over to competitors sites to avoid the higher price or have they also increased the membership fees?<br /><br />I am not saying it not worth the increase but with these economic times collectors may not be able to afford it.

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Posted By: <b>B D</b><p>1) if you save $224.99 on just ONE transaction per year you made money!<br /><br />and<br /><br />2) Is there really competition!<br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br />ok guys-<br /><br />here is 9 phrases your wives use!<br /><br /><br /><a href="http://www.flixxy.com/9-phrases-women-use.htm" target="_new" rel="nofollow">http://www.flixxy.com/9-phrases-women-use.htm</a><br /><br /><br><br>BcD <img src="/images/happy.gif" height=14 width=14>

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Posted By: <b>Bobby Binder</b><p>The price increase is $3.00 a month

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Posted By: <b>quan</b><p>lots of starbucks are closing down...maybe there's a correlation.

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Posted By: <b>E, Daniel</b><p>Also not trying to be a whinger, but though I maintain a VCP membership month by month I have felt all along the fees to be ridiculously high at current rates....and I definitely won't be continuing the service at the new prices.<br /><br />Daniel

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Posted By: <b>Mark T</b><p>i was using the current monthly $9.99 as a guide....<br /><br /><br />alright now guys, i was just asking a question and making a statement (IMHO)...don't bite my head off (&lt;:<br /><br />also: $3.00 adds up here and there.... IMHO

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Posted By: <b>Anthony S.</b><p>My grande Starbucks coffee was $1.75 this morning. Though the sugar shakers still suck. Always clogged.

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Posted By: <b>Jodi Birkholm</b><p>Why is something touted to be affordably-priced always compared to "the cost of a cup of coffee"? <img src="/images/happy.gif" height=14 width=14> Whenever those commercials come on for sponsoring needy children/animals, this line is always thrown out as some sort of defense for the prices they charge. <br /><br />And, by the way $3.00/month isn't that much more.

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Posted By: <b>Matt</b><p>"The price increase is $3.00 a month"<br /><br />Bobby - isn't what currently costs $9.99 a month now going to cost $17.99 a month?

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Posted By: <b>Mark T</b><p>I pay $9.99 now and price for the Gold (which is what every member has now) will go up to $17.99.

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Posted By: <b>B D</b><p>I will pay the difference for you if you tell me where to go to get a coffee drink for under $3.00 in sunny nothern Ca?<br><br>BcD <img src="/images/happy.gif" height=14 width=14>

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Posted By: <b>Bobby Binder</b><p>That is why we are offering to members to lock in the price now by extending the term of their membership up to 5 years if you want.

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Posted By: <b>quan</b><p>geez bobby edited his starbucks comment so my reply made no sense <img src="/images/happy.gif" height=14 width=14><br /><br />anyways it's not about the $3 increase or whatever...i had a monthly membership for over 1+ years, so if i was smart or cared i would've just switched to the yearly and save i guess...but the point is we're being charged extra for stuff that used to be free, that's where the beef is.<br /><br />wasn't a yearly membership $100? and now for everything it's $180? i don't really use vcp for prices these days for prices anyways, since no one really overpays anymore partly because of the econ and also because they have access to info such as VCP. i just keep track of scans etc and see the fun stuff like holders getting crossed to higher holders or altered cards getting into # holders...the fun stuff.<br /><br />edit: bcd vietnamese/thai coffee can be had for around $2, even up in nocal prolly. send me the $80 and i'll re-up with bobby for 1 year.

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Posted By: <b>Anthony S.</b><p>That's exactly where I got the coffee, sunny Northern California. Though today, it's cold foggy crapville Summer in San Francisco. But it's 1.75 for the drip. Latte is probably pushing 3 bucks.

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Posted By: <b>B D</b><p>I love it! love the condensed milk but your people never make the French roast in decaf and the regular makes me go bonkers!<br /><br />The set registry craze has cooled off but on modern Vintage Q it's pretty hot right now. check 52 Topps for example:<br><br>BcD <img src="/images/happy.gif" height=14 width=14>

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Posted By: <b>Jodi Birkholm</b><p>"your people"? <img src="/images/sad.gif" height=14 width=14>

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Posted By: <b>Bobby Binder</b><p>As far as services we have been here for 2 years and anyone that is a member has seen the site grow over time. And we continue to expand the features and function of the site. We are almost finished with a new feature that will blow your mind. It is being tested by 10 people and the feed back has been great. We still have a long ways to go but are always moving forward and getting better. This price increase is going to make it possible to move the site forward.

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Posted By: <b>Dave F</b><p><br />I guess just my opinion, but 9.99 to 17.99 in today's economy just isn't good business. As much as I like having the flexiblity of looking up cards through VCP, I don't think i'll be renewing at that rate either. If one takes the lower grade membership (still a $3.00 increase) your still paying more and getting less. <br /><br />And I know i'm a poor boy by most folks standards on this board, but to committ to five years now at $500 isn't going to make much sense either with the unknown of the country's state in economics right now. <br /><br />

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Posted By: <b>Mike C</b><p>I don't think the economy has much to do with today's card prices. The items that I have been watching keep going up. <br /><br />I think the bigger issue is the lack of product on Ebay as everything appears to be moving to Buy It Now. Personally, I joined VCP two months ago (I just started in the hobby again in the beginning of the year) and haven't overpaid through BIN. Also, auction houses seem to have more product. It's just a really good tool.<br /><br />Regardless of that, people will pay for something that they want.<br /><br />Is $180 too much? Not for me because I probably saved that and then some.<br /><br />And I don't drink coffee!<br />

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Posted By: <b>Steve Murray</b><p>My initial reaction was WTF! But then I was getting it second and third hand. <br /><br />At first I heard that our current one year subscription would be shortened to accomodate the change. That has been proven false.<br /><br />While I understand that the change was posted on VCP I have never read the posts there. It would have been better to launch this change simultaneously here with there.<br /><br />This is a very valuable service that I will continue. I will likely take advantage of the extension offer.<br /><br />Bobby, thanks for the explanation. <br /><br /><br />"Knowledge will forever govern ignorance; and a people who mean to be their own governors must arm themselves with the power which knowledge gives." James Madison<br /><br /><br /><br /><br />

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Posted By: <b>Keith O'Leary</b><p>I'm trying to understand Bobby. I can extend my current Gold Membership for a year a 1 time charge of&nbsp;99.99 which is less than 9.99 per month?<br><br><a href="http://s45.photobucket.com/albums/f92/vwtdi55/53%20card%20baseball%20collection/" target="_new" rel="nofollow">http://s45.photobucket.com/albums/f92/vwtdi55/53%20card%20baseball%20collection/</a>

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Posted By: <b>Tim</b><p>At first I was shocked by this price increase. But without knowing how much VCP's operating costs have increased and the number of subscribers they have to offset those costs I can't begrudge them.<br /><br />I'm sure they looked at those numbers and settled on the two plans that will son be offered.<br /><br />This site has been extremely valuable to someone like myself relatively new to vintage cards.<br /><br />I'll probably renew for two years at the current rate as you get almost two years for the price of one.<br /><br />Bobby how long do we have to renew at $99 a year?

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Posted By: <b>Anonymous</b><p>I don't use the service, but this increase is at least being done above-board as opposed to say a "fee usage" increase in the small print like many banks and financial institutions do. And if I read everything correctly you could extend your current membership up to 5 years at the current rate....so you could buy next year's membership now, or two years, etc up to 5. That seems pretty fair, though I might not be too willing to send my money for a 5 year subscription to a company that has only been in business for 2.<br /><br /><br /><br />

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Posted By: <b>JimB</b><p>VCP has been a very valuable resource for me. I would hate to see it go away. That said, this is a pretty dramatic price increase. 80% in one shot is going to lose some folks. I would think it would be better to bring the whole group along with less dramatic increases. If you lose half of your customers, your revenue increase will only be 40% for example. And then they are gone (most likely to the competition). Slow and steady is the key. <br />Good luck,<br />JimB<br />P.S. I can be hired as a business consultant for the price of one gold membership <img src="/images/happy.gif" height=14 width=14>

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Posted By: <b>Shawn</b><p>I'm out....<br /><br />Creating two options for subscribers is not about covering costs... Its a business move, plain and simple. Almost doubling the fees for the same subscription I had before is out of line in my opinion. It would appear to me that the price increase for the Gold Membership would cover the costs of the Silver Membership. YOU ARE getting less options for the Silver than you had with the original membership. Something is awry and it is not the "3 servers". The end of the month timing for this revelation is quite intriguing also.<br /><br />Shawn

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Posted By: <b>Jason</b><p>I decided to quit. I don't get enough value for the sort of things I collect anyways as it is. Not really knock on VCP. Just the way it goes.

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Posted By: <b>josh</b><p>I used to be a member of VCP and found it very useful but I then cancelled after I found myself not utilizing it that much. I now have joined <br />cardpricer.com and it is half the price for the same thing.

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Posted By: <b>Bobby Binder</b><p>Bottom line when we first launched more then 2 years ago our fee was $9.99 a month $99.99 a year. And for that fee you got the following services.<br /><br />1. Baseball 1860-1959<br />2. My Collection: To track it like a stock portfolio<br />3. You had access to set information of about 350 sets that we coverd.<br />4. We had about 8,000 images of cards on the site.<br />5. Covering eBay listings only<br /><br />Since then here are the add ons and improvements added to the site with out any fee increase.<br /><br />1. Want List with email alerts<br />2. Baseball expanded to 1989<br />3. Football to 1989<br />4. Basketball to 1989<br />5. Hockey to 1989<br />6. Boxing to 1989<br />7. Golf to 1989<br />8. Non-sports to 1989<br />9. We now cover 10 auction houses besides eBay.<br />10. GIN system (Get it now) listed through out the site for ongoing live auctions.<br />11. Market Report covering all sports updated daily.<br />12. Seller, Buyer, Bids and image saved from every auction<br />13. Live Listings feature to see the card on you WL that are available.<br /><br />I can keep going on and on with what we have added to the site since we started. And we have some great new features that will be in the site very shortly. One is the new price grid that will show the average price instead of the last one sold. New and enhanced searches to make it faster to find the card you are looking for. The last one I can not let out of the bag yet but guaranteed it is going to make your life much easier in your pursuit to collect cards. <br /><br />I think the increased features is worth a few bucks and for the SILVER membership you get everything except for the bid history and image. The bid history will show up in the SILVER membership until the link dies out.<br /><br /><br /><br />**Fixed a date to change it from 1960 to 1860

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Posted By: <b>barrysloate</b><p>Hi Bobby- I love the site and use it fairly often. And I appreciate all the features you have added. A couple of thoughts:<br /><br />Very few collectors will use all those features; I don't care about basketball, hockey, etc., and not sure I want to pay extra for things I won't use.<br /><br />Also, if this thread is any indicator of your market in general, it hasn't been received well. Maybe you could find another way to do this. We'll all allow you one do-over.

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Posted By: <b>Bobby Binder</b><p>So the bottom line is the site is going to be the same way for all the SILVER members as it was the start of this year for $3.00 more a month.

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Posted By: <b>Matt</b><p>That VCP initially didn't cover any of that other stuff means you recognized that's not what most people wanted. If the revenue from adding all of those areas isn't covering the costs they incur, why not get rid of them? Personally, you could jettison everything on that list save for numbers 9 & 12 and I wouldn't care.<br /><br /><br />

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Posted By: <b>Richard</b><p>Bobby - I'm paying month to month right now. Can I sign up for a year gold for $99 or am I screwed?<br /><br />

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Posted By: <b>Bobby Binder</b><p>Anyone can add a YEAR to there membership or more up to 5 will have the GOLD level membership for as long as they decide. It makes no difference if you are a monthly, yearly or not even a VIP paying member.<br /><br />To do this log in and the the MY VCP pull down on the right go to account. Here there should be a button that says "Add a Year". If that is not there then click on the Sign up and follow the screens.

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Posted By: <b>Tim</b><p>How long do we have to add years for $99 each? When will this option be taken away?

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Posted By: <b>Bobby Binder</b><p>The new price structure should be in place the next week or two.

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Posted By: <b>Tim</b><p>Please let us know when you know what our deadline for signing up is.

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Posted By: <b>Peter_Spaeth</b><p>It's a valuable service at a reasonable fee, if Bobby's costs have increased because of expanded services, or even if he wants to try to earn more, that's OK by me.

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Posted By: <b>Shawn</b><p>You will not believe this...<br /><br />My wife just told me that Oprah emailed her to inform her of a price increase to the magazine subscription "O". The email reads as follows: "Do to price increases in the economy, we here at "O" magazine have decided to raise the yearly subscription fee. But wait! We here at "O" have two new membership offers to better suit your needs. The first is what we call the "Lean Subscription", instead of your normal "O" magazine you will now receive a chopped down version. If you so choose the "Lean Subscription" the magazine will exclude the index and all photos for a great price of $23.40. That is only an increase of thirty percent... Not bad! <br /> <br /> Our second offer is the "Chunky Subscription", here you will receive the magazine you are used to getting plus there will be a surprise inside! We here at "O" cannot reveal what the surprise will be, but it will be well worth paying the extra money. If you so choose to go with the "Chunky Subscription" you will now have to pay the low price of $32.40. That is only an eighty percent increase... Not bad!<br /><br />Thank you very much for your support.<br /><br />PS. If you would like to receive the same "O" magazine for the same price you have always paid, we will allow you to pay in advance, your choice of 1-20 years. <br />Oprah"<br /><br />This blew my mind!<br />Shawn<br /><br />

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Posted By: <b>TFerg</b><p>"The last one I can not let out of the bag yet but guaranteed it is going to make your life much easier in your pursuit to collect cards."<br /><br /><br />I used the beta version as one of the test subjects, and it's a nice function that may keep some of the defectors from dropping their memberships. He may be further ahead to "let the cat out of the bag", unless it's not going to be ready in a timely manner.

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Posted By: <b>Dave F</b><p><br />I'm a bit confused Bobby. I thought you said members could keep their current rate of $99 a year IF they paid up for a five year period. Can you do less? That's what it is sounding like now. Can I add another $99 service when my subscription ends at the end of December? Or at that rate am I going to have to sign up for five years?

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Posted By: <b>Marc S.</b><p>added much great functionality and many new features which attract a wider breadth of collectors, but, frankly, I do not utilize 90% of those new features, and being compelled to have to pay an 80% increase for those features [for the same level of service] is not an attractive model for me. I don't catalogue my collection with VCP, I don't collect anything but pre-war baseball, except for a few markets whereby I don't worry about price, which means I only use it to gauge prices on some of the issues I collect -- to get accurate ranges of prices, since I'm more of a type than a set collector. Do I derive $216- of value per year from that service? I don't think so -- especially since I (like many of us here) am not a hugely rational collector anyway.<br /><br />Good luck with the business, Bobby -- may you have great success.

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Posted By: <b>Rob D.</b><p><i>The price increase is $3.00 a month</i><br /><br />Better spin: Only 10 cents more a day!<br /><br />Best spin: Less than a half-cent more per hour!<br /><br />Heck, I feel guilty not being asked to pay more.<br /><br />

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Posted By: <b>Frank Wakefield</b><p>I applaud the price increase.<br /><br /><br />I don't subscribe to VCP, I pay what I want for the cards I buy. The ones I'm after aren't offered very often, and holding myself to what some guide suggests, notwithstanding how current and accurate it may be, would only hinder my collecting efforts.<br /><br /><br />As I see it some folks will pay more. Great! That's fewer dollars chasing the cards I want. Those cards won't be bought with good information, it will take dollars. And the VCP folks will have a few less.<br /><br /><br />I started to post the first response, but held my piece for a while... I do think that the product that is offered has a fair degree of accuracy, just so long as the information is used with knowledge of what it is and how it was gathered, rather than blindly followed.

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Posted By: <b>Dave F</b><p><br /><br />Shawn-<br /><br />You failed to mention which "O" magazine subcription you went with. <br /><br /><br /><br />I'm not trying to sway anyone to drop VCP, that's just going to end up being my own decision. I just can't fathom many business types that can in this "recession" say they are upping prices by 80% for the same service. VCP is a great tool. It is not however a barrel of oil.

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Posted By: <b>Bruce Dorskind</b><p><br /><br />We applaud Mr. Binder for his price increase.<br /><br />VCP provides significant value added.<br /><br />If the average VCP "gold member" spends only $10,000 per year on<br />cards, VCP is certainly sure to save said member 2% and thus pay<br />for itself.<br /><br />The total cost of a new gold membership amounts to no more than dinner<br />for 2 at a mid-priced Manhattan Restaurant or 1/3 the price of a 2009 Yankee<br />single game field box seat <br /><br />VCP has to add functionality in order to become more valuable to<br />the serious collector and investor. Finally, the VCP subscription price is far far <br />less than any investment newsletter, and considerably less than the best of<br />the coin price newsletters<br /><br />Keep up the great work Mr. Binder.<br /><br /><br /><br />Bruce Dorskind<br />America's Toughest Want List

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Posted By: <b>Mark T</b><p>"If the average VCP "gold member" spends only $10,000 per year on<br />cards, VCP is certainly sure to save said member 2% and thus pay<br />for itself."<br /><br /><br />The average Member does NOT spend $10,000 per year on cards, that figure is way off. I can guarantee that!!!!

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Posted By: <b>Brian</b><p>Bruces,<br /><br />I heard you don't even offer to pay for dinner so not sure how you would know, but how many "limos" would that membership buy? My guess is at least 6 trips by your standards....

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Posted By: <b>Rob D.</b><p>Bruce and Frank: three peas in a pod

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Posted By: <b>Bruce Dorskind</b><p><br /><br />Mark<br /><br />What would "guess" the average gold member spends per year on cards?<br /><br />Don't forget all the members who spend 5, 10 or 100 times $10,000 per<br />year on cards.<br /><br />Remember the average price of an item in an REA auction or the major Mastro<br />auctions is well in excess of $5000 per card.<br /><br />We would guess that if someone was spending $100 a year to monitor market<br />price movements they would be spending at least 100 times that much in the market.<br /><br />We would welcome your response.<br /><br />Any thoughts Bobbie? Have you surveyed your full year gold members on card expenditure?<br /><br /><br />Bruce Dorskind<br />America's Toughest Want List

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Posted By: <b>Matt</b><p>Perhaps a more accurate and relevant statement would be "the vast majority of VCP users do not spend $10,000 per year on cards."

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Posted By: <b>Dave F</b><p><br /><br />Bruce-<br /><br />I would say the average price spent may be 2k. While there are obviously many big spenders, I would say there are many many more guys that are on VCP looking up 1984 topps and 1989 upper deck cards that are pennies on the dollar. <br /><br /><br />Also Bruce-<br /><br />Why "applaud" Bobby for the increase? Bobby has decided he wants to make more money. Thats find and dandy, people may or may not contribute to his desire. As Shawn pointed out above, I equally find it hard to believe Bobby needs the percentage increase he is after to maintain his profit with his added features. If he needs that big of a percentage increase then I'm not sure how VCP has not been operating in the red for the last few months. Bruce, if your insurance carrier decided that this year they needed to increase your rate upon your renewal at 80% would you applaud that? Just seems weird. <br /><br />My opinion the correct way to have handled this would have been to put a straight across increase across the board of more respectable portions. I wouldn't have had any issue if Bobby would have come on saying due to this and that and the other we regret to inform that prices will increase from 9.99 to 12.99 or something but we'll continue to provide the same great coverage as always.

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Posted By: <b>nolemmings</b><p>the avg. or mean is of limited relevance here--the median or mode is a more valuable measure. If nine collectors spend $3000/yr and the 10th spends $73,000, the avg will meet Bruce's 10K hypothetical yet I would imagine the 9 smaller guys could easily walk away from their memberships. In that event, since memberships are fixed in price, revenue drops dramatically.

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Posted By: <b>Brian</b><p>&lt;&lt;Why "applaud" Bobby for the increase?&gt;&gt;<br /><br />Because he's a troll?

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Posted By: <b>Shawn</b><p>I have an idea... Lets all pick some arbitrary number out of a hat and base a point off that number like Bruce.<br /><br />If the average VCP Gold Member spends 6800.00 a year on his maid, VCP is certainly sure to save said member 2% and thus pay<br />for itself.<br /><br />Shawn<br />

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Posted By: <b>Frank Wakefield</b><p>I got a limo in NYC, it was a bit over $400, and was great...<br /><br />We flew into LaGuardia, the driver was waiting with the sign, wife, kids, mom and I got in, he drove us down through Brooklyn, across B Bridge, stopped at ground zero, went through the curch there, then a ride over to a pier for a good look at the Statue of Liberty... up along Broadway, got a look at the Empire State building, Macy's, Time Square, up toward the top of 7th avenue to our hotel, we checked bags and rode on to the Met, where he left us... There were 5 of us, and I think cabs frown on 5. It was great!! Well worth it, glad I spent that.<br /><br />I actually like Bruce. Sold him an unusual, seldom seen card, once. I agree with some of his thoughts, but not all. Some of his stuff is exactly contrary to how I think. When I saw he posted after me I knew that he'd feel differently, which actually made me feel better about my post. I read a Twain quote that reminded me of Bruce a few days ago... <br /><br />A.Word.A.Day Wordsmith.org<br />with Anu Garg<br /><br />royal we <br /><br />ETYMOLOGY:<br />From Latin nos (we). The practice of using "we" to refer to oneself is called nosism. <br /><br />MEANING:<br />noun: The first-person plural pronoun used by a king or queen to refer to himself or herself, for example, "We are not amused," a line attributed to Queen Victoria. <br /><br />As it's often used by newspaper editors, the term is also known as the "editorial we". Mark Twain once said, "Only kings, presidents, editors, and people with tapeworms have the right to use the editorial 'we'." <br /><br /><br />

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Posted By: <b>Shawn</b><p>Bruce,<br /><br />Can you spare several thousand? I am well behind the average collector right now...<br /><br />Thank you in advance.<br /><br />Shawn

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Posted By: <b>Bobby Binder</b><p>Dave F.,<br /><br />Yes you can extend your membership 1 year, 2 years up to 5 maximum.

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Posted By: <b>Shawn</b><p>Ok, Ok, Ok,<br /><br />Explain to me, if times are tough and costs of operation have gone up so drastically how can you then offer every subscriber at this point an option to renew at the current price for five years? What will be your costs five years from now? Also, are you telling me that after every two years I can expect a subscription fee increase of over 50%? Folks... I am not talking money. The word is "principle"<br /><br />Shawn

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Posted By: <b>Peter_Spaeth</b><p>Bruce's use of the "royal we" is to my mind no worse an idiosyncracy than "signing" every post "regards" or "be well" or whatever. <br /><br />

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Posted By: <b>B D</b><p>Re: VCP price change<br />July 28 2008, 6:41 PM <br /><br />I used to be a member of VCP and found it very useful but I then cancelled after I found myself not utilizing it that much. I now have joined<br />cardpricer.com and it is half the price for the same thing.<br /><br />Josh-did you get prompted to write this?<br />Sadly, you would be in a super minority of people using Cardpricer<br />if in fact you do. What's your log in info? can we check? lOL<br><br>BcD <img src="/images/happy.gif" height=14 width=14>

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Posted By: <b>Jeff Lichtman</b><p>There's been more hand wringing here over a $100 yearly increase than there is discussion about auction fraud which costs collectors exponentially more money.

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Posted By: <b>jay wolt</b><p>Bobby - I added a year to my membership to take advantage<br />of the upcoming the price hike and after doing so, a message came up that<br />my next billing cycle would be 7/28/09<br />Shouldn't the year be added to my existing time that's been paid for<br />instead of just adding a year from today?

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Posted By: <b>Misunderestimated (Brian H.)</b><p>Jeff-<br />That's because the price increase directly impacts many of us... The rampant fraud is worse (of course) and what's going on Sudan (among other places) is exponentially worse than internet baseball card fraud .... <br /><br />

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Posted By: <b>Bottom of the Ninth</b><p>I use the site and will pay the increase. I pay that much for the privilege to submit and it cost me about that much to get a tank of premium gas each week.<br /><br />Lovingly, all my best, fondly, warm regards, respectfully yours,<br />Greg

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Posted By: <b>Bobby Binder</b><p>Jay,<br /><br />Since you are joined before we added the automated billing system I adjusted your end date which is 12/26/09. Any one that joined after 6/2007 will be updated normally.

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Posted By: <b>jay wolt</b><p>Bobby - Appreciate it...jay

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Posted By: <b>Jerry</b><p>Bobby, This may have already been answered but how long do we have to decide if we want to take advantage of the 1-5 Yr. special.

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Posted By: <b>Bobby Binder</b><p>Until we make the rate changes on the website which will be in a week or two.

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Posted By: <b>Jeff Lichtman</b><p>Brian, unlike in Sudan, with VCP if you don't like what is going on you can just press a button on your computer to cancel your membership. I wonder if there is as much discussion in the Save Darfur board as there is here over $100.<br /><br />

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Posted By: <b>Joe D.</b><p>Bobby,<br /><br />I do not see the button to 'add a year' or 5 to lock in the rate.<br /><br />I go to My Account.... just don't see the button.<br /><br />Please advise.<br /><br />Thanks,<br />Joe<br /><br />

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Posted By: <b>Jeff Lichtman</b><p>Joe, Bobby had you once he added the golf cards, right? <img src="/images/happy.gif" height=14 width=14>

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Posted By: <b>JK</b><p>I for one do not use 90% of the new features on your site - like others I am only interested in pre-war baseball. I doubt very seriously that I will pay 17.99 to keep the level of service I have or even 12.99 to get even less. <br /><br />Bobby, perhaps the better plan would have been to charge ala carte - sort of like the cable companies. For 9.99 you get one sport (such as pre-war baseball) plus some of the extras (such as the ability to catalog your collection, etc). For each additional sport, you pay more.<br /><br />I'd be much more inclined to keep my membership if I could just pay for what I want. I'm certainly not going to lay out $500 in advance to pay for five years of service that I may or may not have a need for. <br /><br />Finally, you mention that you are going to put the average price on the grid - how will that average price be calculated? If you plan to use all of the sales tracked back to 2005/2006, Im not sure how accurate that will be. If its going to be the average price over the past 6-12 months, then I think that would be a more helpful addition.

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Posted By: <b>Bobby Binder</b><p>Here is the plan on the new grid averaging prices.<br /><br />All auctions values will be within the calendar year. 5 Auction results toss the high and low and average the 3. 10 auctions toss the 2 high and lows and average the 6.<br /><br />Less then 5 and you average all.. <br /><br />And we only average the last 10 sales.

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Posted By: <b>leon</b><p>Price increases are what they are.....however, prices without scans are kind of dicey as seen when I posted the M116 Matty's recently. Also, I sold a green T206 Cobby recently for more than the last 5 sales as it was much nicer.....had there been no scans I wouldn't have been able to know the information I needed.....the lower the grade the more relativity there is with the cards....Good luck

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Posted By: <b>PAS</b><p>As I see it Bobby is only providing data, not vouching that it should control any given transaction.

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Posted By: <b>Bob C</b><p>$9.99 to $17.99...an 80% increase...wow. I used to say folks were feeling poorer but what with stocks in a bear market, the real estate debacle and a hundy to fill up my gas tank when I didn't even have enough time to bitch about it going up to fify, and its spillover effect on the price of food - and, well, everything else - has left familys with less money to spend. That's why over half of Americans are reconsidering taking vacation this summer to save money. Well, now I am now saying folks ARE poorer.<br />To be sure there is value added for your service & I wish you guys well, but that addional eight bucks a month buys me almost two gallons of gas which is where it is likely to go since I don't do Starbucks...well maybe a Frappuccino now and again... <br />

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Posted By: <b>Tony Andrea</b><p>Bobby -<br />I am a current VCP member and Leon brings up a really good point that is also the most troubling to me as well. The new $12.99 monthly Silver membership option is of no use if one can't view pics of the cards their looking up. IMO that option should be included with the Silver membership price.<br />Seeing prices of cards without a scan is worthless anymore making the Silver membership option not worth a dime. By keeping that option included with the new $12.99 monthly fee your requesting I think alot of the pushback your receiving would be removed. <br /><br /> Regards, Tony

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Posted By: <b>leon</b><p>A very painfully obvious and astute observation you have made (insert smiley). Of course Bobby doesn't control a transaction price BUT those listed transactions give an idea of where the market is AND is what is used to base a sales price on many times. Without scans it will be difficult to know what kind of deal I am getting or giving.....that's all I was saying. I too don't really care about all of the other stuff...Giving me pre-war card prices and scans and skipping the rest, would be great for a lot of us.... regards

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Posted By: <b>barrysloate</b><p>Hi Bobby- I just went to my account and renewed my subscription for an additional year at the old rates. But I have a question:<br /><br />Last year I was renewed automatically, something I was not aware would happen. I see by your contract that I will continue to be renewed yearly unless I request otherwise at least 7 days before the membership expires.<br /><br />I have enough things crammed into my head and will clearly not remember when my membership is about to expire. In fact, I don't even know right now what that date is. Any suggestions? I was planning to renew last year but wasn't happy it was done without my approval.<br /><br />I also found an email in my account that you sent me a year ago that I was not aware of, and just read for the first time today. Sorry I did not do what you requested but I didn't even know emails were being sent to me.