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Posted By: <b>Dan Bretta</b><p>RNK ENTRY, OWNER RD1 RD2 RD3 QUAR SEMI FINAL PPR TOTAL PCT<br />1 seidler 1, j. seidler 280 0 0 0 0 0 1260 280 100.0<br />2 neal 1, l. neal 270 0 0 0 0 0 1300 270 99.8<br />3 Abravefan11, T. Cathey 260 0 0 0 0 0 1300 260 98.7<br />3 abella 1, j. abella 260 0 0 0 0 0 1280 260 98.7<br />5 O'Leary 1, K. O'Leary 250 0 0 0 0 0 1320 250 94.7<br />5 rund 1, S. rund 250 0 0 0 0 0 1320 250 94.7<br />5 Levine 4, J. Levine 250 0 0 0 0 0 1320 250 94.7<br />5 Turd Ferguson, D. Grammont 250 0 0 0 0 0 1320 250 94.7<br />5 BoKnowsHoops, B. Kasel 250 0 0 0 0 0 1280 250 94.7<br />5 tiger8mush - net54, R. Gordy 250 0 0 0 0 0 1200 250 94.7<br />11 Wakefield 1, F. Wakefield 240 0 0 0 0 0 1320 240 85.6<br />11 Marquette 1, B. Marquette 240 0 0 0 0 0 1320 240 85.6<br />11 Chambers 1, S. Chambers 240 0 0 0 0 0 1320 240 85.6<br />11 Stevens 1, B. Stevens 240 0 0 0 0 0 1300 240 85.6<br />11 Amos Rusie, S. Thompson 240 0 0 0 0 0 1300 240 85.6<br />11 Behrens 1, L. Behrens 240 0 0 0 0 0 1240 240 85.6<br />11 Mccullough 1, M. Mccullough 240 0 0 0 0 0 1160 240 85.6<br />18 TistaT202, M. Antista 230 0 0 0 0 0 1320 230 68.2<br />18 Settle 1, J. Settle 230 0 0 0 0 0 1320 230 68.2<br />18 East 1, C. East 230 0 0 0 0 0 1320 230 68.2<br />18 101BOB19, R. Zych 230 0 0 0 0 0 1320 230 68.2<br />18 Wieder 1, M. Wieder 230 0 0 0 0 0 1300 230 68.2<br />18 jmk59, J. Kline 230 0 0 0 0 0 1300 230 68.2<br />18 Whaler 1, B. Miller 230 0 0 0 0 0 1300 230 68.2<br />18 BBT206, W. Brown 230 0 0 0 0 0 1300 230 68.2<br />18 Long Branch, B. Rund 230 0 0 0 0 0 1280 230 68.2<br />18 Stone 1, W. Stone 230 0 0 0 0 0 1280 230 68.2<br />18 Boblitt 3, T. Boblitt 230 0 0 0 0 0 1280 230 68.2<br />18 Adam B., A. B 230 0 0 0 0 0 1260 230 68.2<br />18 hill 1, r. hill 230 0 0 0 0 0 1260 230 68.2<br />18 wise 1, t. wise 230 0 0 0 0 0 1260 230 68.2<br />18 Worst Picks Ever, R. Christoff 230 0 0 0 0 0 1240 230 68.2<br />18 Reader 1, S. Reader 230 0 0 0 0 0 900 230 68.2<br />34 Go Bucky, J. Effenheim 220 0 0 0 0 0 1320 220 49.5<br />34 GoldenAge50s, F. Young 220 0 0 0 0 0 1320 220 49.5<br />34 OldOriole, D. Seaborn 220 0 0 0 0 0 1320 220 49.5<br />34 Bretta 1, D. Bretta 220 0 0 0 0 0 1320 220 49.5<br />34 betti 1, f. betti 220 0 0 0 0 0 1320 220 49.5<br />34 chris n, c. nealis 220 0 0 0 0 0 1300 220 49.5<br />34 Walsh 1, D. Walsh 220 0 0 0 0 0 1300 220 49.5<br />34 Agard 1, S. Agard 220 0 0 0 0 0 1280 220 49.5<br />34 Dwight Davis, D. Davis 220 0 0 0 0 0 1200 220 49.5<br />43 Brazil 1, N. Brazil 210 0 0 0 0 0 1320 210 31.5<br />43 Prillaman 1, J. Prillaman 210 0 0 0 0 0 1320 210 31.5<br />43 Dewolf 1, R. Dewolf 210 0 0 0 0 0 1320 210 31.5<br />43 MDGoHawgs, J. Feagin 210 0 0 0 0 0 1320 210 31.5<br />43 Cox Pix, T. Cox 210 0 0 0 0 0 1280 210 31.5<br />43 joggerdru, d. andrews 210 0 0 0 0 0 1260 210 31.5<br />43 PCCollector, S. Murray 210 0 0 0 0 0 1260 210 31.5<br />43 gallo 1, j. gallo 210 0 0 0 0 0 1260 210 31.5<br />43 Derek Blum, D. Blum 210 0 0 0 0 0 1240 210 31.5<br />43 El Gancho de Rostyn, J. Leiderman 210 0 0 0 0 0 1160 210 31.5<br />43 Rogers 1, C. Rogers 210 0 0 0 0 0 1120 210 31.5<br />54 Krasner 1, J. Krasner 200 0 0 0 0 0 1320 200 17.7<br />54 Skaggs 1, R. Skaggs 200 0 0 0 0 0 1300 200 17.7<br />54 sabrjay, J. Behrens 200 0 0 0 0 0 1280 200 17.7<br />54 slackjob's slackjobs, A. Jerome 200 0 0 0 0 0 1220 200 17.7<br />58 Jones 1, J. Jones 180 0 0 0 0 0 1240 180 4.2<br />58 kiens 1, m. kiens 180 0 0 0 0 0 1240 180 4.2<br />60 Stephenson 1, A. Stephenson 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0.0<br />60 Midwestcpa, M. S 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0.0<br />60 nolemmings081, T. Schultz 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0.0
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Posted By: <b>Martin Neal</b><p>I really despise Duke now.
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Posted By: <b>barrysloate</b><p>They should have lost both games. Why were they a 2 seed?
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Posted By: <b>Jeff Lichtman</b><p>Because they were the #3 team in the country and in first place in the ACC until the last regular season game. And then reality hit and everyone noticed that they have no inside presence.
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Posted By: <b>Dan Bretta</b><p>I wonder if any of the players were feeling sick today? Coach K had a 104 temperature this morning.
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Posted By: <b>barrysloate</b><p>Gerald Henderson is terrific. But the rest of the team is sub-par for Duke.
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Posted By: <b>Jeff Lichtman</b><p>Dan, I don't know about the players but as an alum I can tell you that whatever sickness they had they must be very contagious -- they made me sick right through the TV screen!
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Posted By: <b>Tom Boblitt</b><p>the Cardinals......<br />
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Posted By: <b>barrysloate</b><p>Jeff- you know they should have lost last night too. That lob pass at the end was perhaps the worst inbounds pass I have ever seen.
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Posted By: <b>Bob</b><p>Because the media loves Duke and the Acc. Put a "Utah" on the front of their jerseys and they would have been a 5 seed. It's sickening. Clemson and Duke were way overrated. I hope Arkansas pulls the big upset tomorrow against NC. Letting NC play the first round games in Raleigh and then getting to stay in North Carolina for the next rounds is an absolute crock. Memphis is getting ready to have to go to Houston and probably face Texas and the Tigers are a #1 seed too.<br />
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Posted By: <b>Jeff Schwarz</b><p>I coached John Scheyer in middle school, as well as his coach, Chris Collins. Both are great kids, and I feel badly they lost. It would be good to see nice things happening to nice people. Their loss did mess up my brackets, however.
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Posted By: <b>Josh Seidler</b><p>I hope I can continue to keep the lead!!!!!!
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Posted By: <b>Dan Bretta</b><p>How is your bracket going today Josh? I noticed yesterday you were on the front page of the national leaderboard...ranked #25. That's pretty amazing when you consider there are a million or so entries.
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Posted By: <b>Bob</b><p>Josh- Long way to go. Good luck but if a North Carolina or UCLA falls, things will get hinky.
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Posted By: <b>JimCrandell</b><p>Jeff,<br /><br />Scheyer may be a nice guy but he lacks the quickness to succeed as a guard on the D1 level.<br /><br />He can shoot the open j but he certainly cannot create his own shots like JJ Redick did and his defense is horrendous.<br /><br />With Nelson graduating next year, the only high quality returnee is Henderson. Paulus is an average D1 point guard and Singler was a huge disappointment the last several games.
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Posted By: <b>Josh Seidler</b><p>I am still doing great. i should be doing well because i spend hours capping games of all sports. I bet on sports for every day of the year. I capped this years tournament for 18 hours. Last year I won 25 k and I only invested 9 hours of capping!
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Posted By: <b>Jeff Lichtman</b><p>Jim, I disagree with you on Scheyer. He actually drives more effectively than Redick ever did and has been one of the best sixth men in the country this year. I suspect if he had gone to a different school, say Illinois, he'd be averaging about 18 a game. That being said, I don't think you're winning an NC with Jon Scheyer as your starting 2. Henderson is their best player but until Duke lands a quality power forward, i.e., Brand, Boozer, etc., next year ends much like the past few have.
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Posted By: <b>JimCrandell</b><p>Jeff,<br /><br />We certainly agree that Duke needs an inside presence.
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Posted By: <b>James Feagin</b><p>Bob,<br /><br /> No chance our Hawgs win tomorrow against UNC. If it's a close game, we'll get screwed by the refs. I really love the future of Arkansas basketball though and can see us in the Final Four again very soon with Pelphrey. As for Duke, they were overrated the entire year. Coach K is in a quandry as he can't recruit NBA quality players anymore as they use the program and leave the cupboard dry after a couple of years. Nevertheless, it's always good to see the despondent faces of the entitled rich kids at Duke when they fail in March.
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Posted By: <b>James Feagin</b><p>Apologies for Duke fans as my last post seemed mean. My bracket got butchered for the first round but I DID call the upset of the tournament so far....Siena over Vanderbilt. I figured if my Hawgs could beat Vandy twice, they couldn't be that good <img src="/images/happy.gif" height=14 width=14> <br />
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Posted By: <b>Jeff Lichtman</b><p>James, I'm sure if you had studied harder Duke might have accepted you. No need to show jealousy. Plus I'm not sure that the kids that play for Duke are necessarily rich kids; they're the same kids that get recruited by the other top programs in the country. Do they become rich and entitled only after they sign with Duke? <br /><br />As for Duke players leaving early for the NBA, I wasn't aware this was a Duke-centric problem. But Duke must be doing something right because their players are making more money in the NBA than any other college program this year. <br /><br />In addition, Duke went 4-2 against top 20 teams this year including beating UNC at UNC. I guess the media was to blame for those wins, too.
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Posted By: <b>James Feagin</b><p>I post an apology after I realized I made an error in words, and that's the reponse I get? Thanks Jeff.
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Posted By: <b>JimCrandell</b><p>I am a huge Duke fan and probably saw 15 games this year.<br /><br />I have been a fan ever since I used to go to Duke and recruit MBAs and they would give me tickets for the games. One time I bought my son and it left a lasting impression on him. He even apologized to me for picking Dartmouth over Duke as he had such a strong attachment there.
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Posted By: <b>Jeff Lichtman</b><p>It's an incredible school and seeing a game in Cameron is probably the best sports experience one can have--and I've been to every sporting event possible including the World Series sitting in the first row.<br /><br />Jim, you can forgive your son but only if he tells you the one Duke player who transferred to Dartmouth.
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Posted By: <b>JimCrandell</b><p>Jeff,<br /><br />I had already hired one Duke undergrad so I asked her to give my son a tour of Duke while I was interviewing the day after the game and she said all he could talk about was Duke basketball--where does Grant Hill hang out, who is his roommate etc etc etc. For next two years after seeing game he called me his Duke "bro"(brother)and made me a birthday card about Duke basketball. Nothing hass ever had anywhere near the impression on him and he played varsity squash at college, 20-25 junior golf tournaments and has been to many different sporting events.<br /><br />I don't know off the top of my head who transferred to Dartmouth. Must have been many years ago.
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Posted By: <b>Jeff Lichtman</b><p>Jim, of course it was Crawford Palmer! He transferred after the first championship in 91; somehow he figured he had no shot of supplanting Laettner as the focal point of the team.
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Posted By: <b>Martin Neal</b><p>My apologies to the Dukies also. They completely destroyed my bracket. I had picked them to play in the final against North Carolina (losing, of course). My friendly disdain comes from years of playing the neighborhood Blue Devils in pickup games near Greensboro when I was a kid. At least we still have two teams from North Carolina playing.
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Posted By: <b>Rob Fouch</b><p>No offense to the Duke fans out there -- it's a tremendous program and I have great respect for Coach K -- but there was another team on the floor yesterday, and with all the comments, it's as if Duke lost in a vacuum, or simply beat itself.<br /><br />WVU (yes, I'm a fan) played a great second half. Terrific defense, clutch shooting and their backup point guard almost had a triple-double. Coack K called him a "mini Jason Kidd." <br /><br />And while WVU certainly isn't a national power, they barely get any recognition for having made the Sweet 16 three out of the last four years, and the Elite 8 once. (Not to mention winning the NIT last year after they probably should have gotten an NCAA bid.) And the year they went to the Elite 8, they lost in OT to Louisville. Just a few seconds from the Final Four. Argh!<br /><br />What's been fun about this year's team has been the way Huggins has molded John Beilein/three-point-shooting/no-rebounding type players into the kind of players he recruits. They now rebound pretty well, play tough, in-your-face defense and they can still knock down threes. And they have a star in Joe Alexander. The Big East coaches picked WVU 10th before the season. They finished 5th and made it to the semifinals in the Big East Tourney. I wasn't sold on the Huggins hire when he got the job (knowing his occasionally spotty past), but he's certainly proved himself to be a tremendous coach. Making the Sweet 16 (and beating a top program like Duke along the way) with someone else's players is a real accomplishment.<br /><br />Anyway, if they play well, I think they can beat Xavier. UCLA would be a tough out to get to the Final Four. But you never know. That's why they play the games.<br /><br />Again, no disrespect to Duke. But I watched every minute of that game, and it looked to me like WVU just wanted it more and played with a lot more toughness. <br /><br />Rob
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Posted By: <b>Jeff Lichtman</b><p>Rob, by decrying Duke's weaknesses no one is forgetting West Virginia. They played a great game yesterday, wanted it more, and have a pretty good coach. As long as he can control himself I suspect WVa will have a great future with him.
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Posted By: <b>Dan Bretta</b><p>Jeff, can you tell me the one player who transferred from Duke to play basketball at Nebraska?<br /><br />Bet you can't!
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Posted By: <b>Dwight</b><p>Davidson just took out one of my final two, but I'm hoarse from celebrating the Wildcats' victory.
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Posted By: <b>Tim Newcomb</b><p>When I went to Davidson its last NCAA victories under Lefty Driesell were still fresh in everyone's mind (tells you how long ago that was) -- now Davidsonians will have another moment to sustain us for the next 40 years or so (once Stephen Curry graduates)!
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Posted By: <b>Jeff Lichtman</b><p>Dan, that's a tough one. I can, however, name the one Nebraska football player who transferred to Duke -- talk about a one in a million....
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Posted By: <b>Jeff Lichtman</b><p>Bill Jackman, of course.
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Posted By: <b>Tim Newcomb</b><p>Just saw this from James re Duke:<br /><br />Nevertheless, it's always good to see the despondent faces of the entitled rich kids at Duke when they fail in March.<br /><br />James, that wasn't mean, it's all too true. I'm an alum of Duke too (grad school) and you are right-- the undegrads are spoiled rotten. Probably no more or less than kids at other rich private schools, but at Duke it comes out at Cameron. Don't get me wrong, I have all the respect in the world for the program and the coach-- but the undergrad fans are an embarrassment a lot of the time. <br /><br /><br />Tim
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Posted By: <b>Jeff Lichtman</b><p>Tim, I hear you but the the fans at a Duke game are tame compared to some other schools. I can't ever remember hearing that any fan ever threw anything at an opposing player's family (a la Maryland), threatened another player or his family (Oregon), etc. etc. Duke fans are obnoxious but hardly an embarrassment.
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Posted By: <b>Bob</b><p><<I am still doing great. i should be doing well because i spend hours capping games of all sports. I bet on sports for every day of the year. I capped this years tournament for 18 hours. Last year I won 25 k and I only invested 9 hours of capping!>><br /><br />Well, since you've got Kent State and Vandy playing next Thursday, it's not all good.<br />Since you had Kansas losing already to Kent State you better hope they don't go all the way...
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Posted By: <b>James Feagin</b><p>Well, at least for Duke fans there is always football season <img src="/images/happy.gif" height=14 width=14><br /><br />
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Posted By: <b>Jeff Lichtman</b><p>James, I don't know what you're talking about. Duke does not have a football team. Oh wait, they did -- and then Steve Spurrier left and took the program with him.<br /><br />
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Posted By: <b>Anonymous</b><p>it is actually good because in my money one that counts I am in 3rd place! Even 3rd place gets 5 k!
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Posted By: <b>Dan Bretta</b><p>Jeff, good job. Did you know it or did you Google it? <img src="/images/wink.gif" height=14 width=14><br /><br />and the answer to your question is of course Curt Dukes! Oddly enough Nebraska has had three QB's transfer to North Carolina schools in the last 5 years (Dukes to Duke, Joe Dailey to North Carolina and Harrison Beck to NC State) How weird is that?
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Posted By: <b>Bob</b><p>Roy Williams. Class coach. Waits until his team scores 103 points and 3 minutes left in a huge blow out to start taking his starters out. Class guy. I hope someone beats his smirking ass down the road. I guess since his teams have choked so often in past years at Kansas and NC that he wanted to make his 36 point lead was safe. What a jackass.
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Posted By: <b>Jeff Lichtman</b><p>Dan, I knew Jackman was from Nebraska -- had to confirm that he was the one who actually transferred there. Oh and thanks for Curt Dukes -- really wonderful quarterback, big help. <img src="/images/happy.gif" height=14 width=14>
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Posted By: <b>Dan Bretta</b><p>No problem! I guess the recruiting services got that one wrong....he was rated the number one dual-threat QB coming out of high school.
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Posted By: <b>Jeff Lichtman</b><p>Incredible, I know. He was so highly rated I thought he'd turn the program around by himself. In the end he barely even threw any passes; they used him at a variety of other positions. Just unreal.
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Posted By: <b>howard</b><p>Hey Jeff, since we're on the subject of QBs, many thanks to Duke for making the Dave Brown era possible at the Meadowlands.
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Posted By: <b>Jeff Lichtman</b><p>Howard, I was hoping that wouldn't come up. He's actually originally from the town next door to where I grew up. I was at Duke when Brown was the QB and I was simply amazed that the Giants would waste a first round (supplemental) choice on him. Insane. As Giants QBs go I'd rate him above Jerry Golsteyn but maybe slightly below Randy Johnson.
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Posted By: <b>Tom Boblitt</b><p>Cardinals.......
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Posted By: <b>Harry Wallace (HW)</b><p>Tom, are you rooting my Stanford Cardinal along? They are going to need all the help they can get.<br /><br />Oh wait, you meant the Louisville Cardinals.
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Posted By: <b>Jeff Lichtman</b><p>I think he was referring to the St. Louis Cardinals -- Dave Brown's last team. <img src="/images/happy.gif" height=14 width=14>
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Posted By: <b>JK</b><p>"Roy Williams. Class coach. Waits until his team scores 103 points and 3 minutes left in a huge blow out to start taking his starters out. Class guy. I hope someone beats his smirking ass down the road. I guess since his teams have choked so often in past years at Kansas and NC that he wanted to make his 36 point lead was safe. What a jackass."<br /><br />Bob - I realize that that was your school, but you've got to be kidding right? That comment above looks like nothing but sour grapes to me. I was at the game. When I left, it looked to me like the Razorbacks were still trying to score, still trying to play defense, and still hoping to come back. Texas's starters lost a 17 point lead in the last 7 minutes of their game against Miami (a 10 seed) and was fortunate to hold on to the win. 30 points up may be a lot safer than 17, but not when you have walk ons and non-scholarship players in the game. This is the NCAA's - there is no room for mistakes. And its not as if Arkansas wasn't playing well. They shot just under 50%, had only 9 turnovers, and shot 6 more free throws than did Carolina (so there goes the "refs love Carolina" theory). If the score had been reversed, I guarantee that Arkansas wouldnt have put in their scrubs until the last few minutes. Arkansas got out played - get over it.<br /><br />And by the way, say what you want about the Kansas years, but since Roy has been at UNC, he is 1-0 in National Championship games.
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Posted By: <b>Harry Wallace (HW)</b><p>Jeff, thanks for clearing that up for me. I was not even in the right sport! Boy, was I lost. <br /><br />I was just so excited to see the word Cardinal mentioned even though I did not think he was referring to Stanford.
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Posted By: <b>Tim</b><p>I couldn't agree with JK more.<br /><br />It's the NCAA tournament. This isn't the time to rest your starters. You want them on the floor and working to win a national title, not sitting on the bench regardless is the score.
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Posted By: <b>JK</b><p>"Because the media loves Duke and the Acc. Put a "Utah" on the front of their jerseys and they would have been a 5 seed. It's sickening. Clemson and Duke were way overrated. I hope Arkansas pulls the big upset tomorrow against NC. Letting NC play the first round games in Raleigh and then getting to stay in North Carolina for the next rounds is an absolute crock. Memphis is getting ready to have to go to Houston and probably face Texas and the Tigers are a #1 seed too."<br /><br /><br />Just saw this one - again, give me a break. As if letting high seeds play in-state is something new. Three years ago, Illinois, the number one team in the country played each of the first two rounds in state and then played the finals in Indianapolis - which is what, a hundred miles from their campus? They still lost. There are no guarantees regardless of where you play. UNC is the number one team in the country, where do you propose they play - Denver?<br /><br />Sorry if Im piling on here, but whining about other teams getting preferential treatment is just sooooo tired. Play better during the year, get seeded higher, and you dont have to worry about where or who youre playing.
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Posted By: <b>Tim</b><p>UNC came into the tournament as the true "#1 seed." With that being said why didn't they get the "4th best #2 seed" in their bracket? They ended up with arguably the best #2 seed in their bracket.<br /><br />That doesn't sound like preferential treatment to me.<br />
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Posted By: <b>JK</b><p>Not only did UNC get the best #2 seed, they got stuck in what most "experts" have called the most difficult bracket. That label has proven itself correct as it's the only region with all top 4 seeds still alive. If UNC gets to the finals, it wont be because they got preferential treatment, it will be because they earned their way there - same is true if its Wash. St., Tenn. or Louisville coming out of the East.
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Posted By: <b>James Feagin</b><p>As a die-hard Razorback fan, their being seeded against UNC was self-inflicted. All they had to do was take care of business in the SEC Championship game and they would have avoided UNC with a 5 or 6 seed.
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Posted By: <b>Charles</b><p>Jeff , did you know that Crawford Palmer is 1 of only 2 Ivy League basketball players to ever win an Olympic medal ! Can you guess who the other one is ?
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Posted By: <b>David R</b><p>Go Cardinal! Harry, are you a Stanford alum? I graduated in '87. Final Four, here we come.
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Posted By: <b>Jeff Lichtman</b><p>Charles, before I ponder that, I'd like to point out that Palmer did it as part of the French team that won a silver medal, I believe. Off the top of my head, is Bill Bradley the other?
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Posted By: <b>Charles</b><p>Jeff , you are correct . Bill Bradley was the other one . I guess I can't stump you on Ivy League basketball trivia !
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Posted By: <b>Jeff Lichtman</b><p>And Bill Bradley's picks for schools were between Princeton and Duke.
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Posted By: <b>JK</b><p>nm
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Posted By: <b>James Feagin</b><p>If it's any consolation to Razorback fans like Bob and myself, Arkansas did hand UNC their largest margin of defeat in their school's tournament history, 96-73 in 1990. Long live Todd Day, Lee Mayberry and 40 Minutes of Hell.<br /><br />James
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Posted By: <b>Tom Boblitt</b><p>Cardinals.........<br /><br />UL Women Cardinals play North Carolina tomorrow at noon...<br />UL Men Cardinals play North Carlina tomorrow at 905pm...<br /><br />Hoping for 2-0<br /><br /><br />
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Posted By: <b>Denny Walsh</b><p>Although I'm down in the Pack... I Really Like My Position Here. Louisville's Playin' Like Real Men & "IF" They Run the Table I believe ONLY ONE Other Board Member can beat me <img src="/images/happy.gif" height=14 width=14> <br />Hey, Hope Is Always Good Right! It's Nice to know <br />"I'm Still Alive".<br /><br />Life's Grand,<br />Denny Walsh
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Posted By: <b>Tim</b><p>I had a great run but I'm done.<br /><br />I have been near the top most of the tournament but I can no longer win. One of the two ahead of me has the same winners from here on out.<br /><br />If Butler would have won in OT over Tennessee and West Virginia had won in OT last night I would have been good, but I'm sure a lot of people can what if their brackets as well.<br /><br />Thanks to all that put this together and for letting a new guy like me participate.
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Posted By: <b>Bob</b><p><<I am still doing great. i should be doing well because i spend hours capping games of all sports. I bet on sports for every day of the year. I capped this years tournament for 18 hours. Last year I won 25 k and I only invested 9 hours of capping!>><br /><br />Josh, this is why you never talk smack or brag about your tourney picks. Things change so quickly. I show you are now 25th on the Net 54 Board.
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Posted By: <b>Rawn Hill</b><p>Ouch, now that has to hurt. I have not watched a college game since Len Bias died and am just behind.
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Posted By: <b>Fred Y</b><p>Stephen Curry WAS the best-kept secret in college basketball! What a cool customer he is!
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Posted By: <b>Tim</b><p>Curry wanted to go to Va Tech where his father played. According to him they nor any other ACC school ever gave him a call.<br /><br />Think Curry could have kept Tech off the bubble and gotten them into the dance?<br /><br />I think his success and Davidson's run is exactly what makes this tournament great.
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Posted By: <b>Josh</b><p>I can talk all I want. I made over 50k this year in hoops.
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Posted By: <b>Ryan Christoff</b><p>And how's that talking working out for you?<br /><br />-Ryan<br /><br />
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Posted By: <b>Josh</b><p>Working out well tough guy
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Posted By: <b>Ryan Christoff</b><p>Phil Hellmuth, <br /><br />Yeah, I'm guessing the talking works about as well for you as the awesome "capping" you're so proud of. I'm especially impressed that you were able to pick 3 of 8 teams still left. And you only spent 18 hours capping it! Maybe you really have earned the right to talk all you want. I mean, even in my bracket, which is the worst bracket I can ever remember picking, I managed to get 5 of the remaining 8. <br /><br />You're capping skills seem all the more impressive when you consider the fact that you literally spent more time capping this tournament than I spent watching college basketball this entire year. <br /><br />Additionally, when you look at the net54 leaderboard and realize that our current leader (props to N. Brazil) picked all 8 of the remaining teams and has not talked a word of smack, well I guess I can see why you'd want to keep talking about your mad gambling skills. Bob was exactly right about how quickly things can change, which anyone who has ever had their bracket ruined overnight knows. So you've either been picking perfect brackets every year, or are every bit the amateur your posts make you look like. <br /><br />Oh, and by the way, out of 59 entries in our group, only 2 of them picked worse than you this last round. I hope you won't mind if I don't take a friendly pool between a bunch of vintage baseball card collectors where no money is involved as seriously as you apparently do. <br /><br />But if it's working for you, keep talking, big guy. <br /><br />Like you said, you can talk all you want. <br /><br />-Ryan<br /><br /><br /><br />
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Posted By: <b>Tim</b><p>I'm defintely more knowlegable about handicapping than I am about cards so I will say this.<br /><br />Josh if you are on that kind of run this year with basketball congratulations.<br /><br />Ryan you can't judge Josh's entire season of gambling on basketball solely on his NCAA bracket he posted here.<br /><br />However most solid cappers I know never state the dollar amount they've won unless it's to seek public glory for past undisclosed loses to make themselves feel better or for personal justification for there "hobby."<br /><br />The guys that get my respect are those that state more winners than losers in a public forum over a given period of time not simply show case or announce a win.<br /><br />I hope you continue to win Josh. Take down the man in the long term if you can.
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Posted By: <b>Josh</b><p>Your an idiot. This is one bracket that means nothing. I bet on sports for a living. You have no idea what you are talking about. You want to keep running your mouth why don't you come to Southern Ca and meet me for a drink? Stay safe and behind a keyboard you internet tough guy . ha
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Posted By: <b>Josh</b><p>Tim,<br /><br />I will be the first one to tell you I lost more than a lot of peoples homes are worth in the midwest this year on Hockey and NBA. i have nothing to prove to some idiot that wanted to start crap with me here. I do this for a living and our network has done well over the last 12 years. i live a very nice life from this. Could care less about some hick that thinks he is a tough guy behind a keyboard.
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Posted By: <b>Tim</b><p>Josh,<br /><br />I don't have any reason to doubt what you say and congratulate you if you can handicap for a living. It's far more difficult than most people think and that as you know is what keeps the guys in Vegas and your home town in business.<br /><br />Like I said if you can actually do it for a profit kudo's. I've seen a lot of people try and fail.<br /><br />I've resigned myself to knowing against the average player the house has a huge advatage. It's far better to be the house unless you are one of the few that can win in the long term.
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Posted By: <b>Ryan Christoff</b><p>Happy to meet at the National this summer if you'd like. It's in Chicago, which should work well for you, Mr. illini850. <br /><br />I do have to agree that this one bracket doesn't mean anything. That's why it was so absurd for you to be talking smack. I guess with those great picks from all that capping, you just couldn't hold it all inside and needed to let the world know. <br /><br />Congrats on your 50k in gambling wins which you publicly announced on a public chat board. Personally, I might not want the IRS involved in my extra $50,000 of income, but I'm sure you're above board and have fully reported and accounted for all of it. The IRS would never consider gathering information from a public chat board, though. So either way, it was probably a smart thing for you to say. I guess you really have mastered this talking thing. <br /><br />It's awesome that you're so open to the public about your massive gambling income and the opulent lifestyle it affords you. I haven't met many professional gamblers that are so willing to share that kind of information. Your candor is refreshing. Three cheers to the pro! <br /><br />See you in Chicago. But maybe it shouldn't be for drinks. I don't drink, plus you might not have any money left to buy a beer. But stop by and see me if you need a loan or a shoulder to cry on. <br /><br />You take care now, <br /><br />-Ryan<br /><br /><br /><br />
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